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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

EmmyOk posted:

Did they set up curtains specifically to Gotcha Dio?

They're rich, so the answer is probably yes.

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Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Wouldn't you?

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

George is kind of a bad father. It also seems like part of the reason Dio might dislike him (aside from being rich) is because him being a dick to Jonathan reminds him of his own dad? Or, at least, that was a theory I saw around. I remember someone wrote up a huge Tumblr post on it, but it has spoilers.

This theory is dumb because it directly contradicts Speedwagon who can smell that Dio is just pure evil and a huge rear end in a top hat. And I don't know how anyone could possibly not fully trust Speedwagon and whatever he says. :colbert:

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

You can be evil and also dislike someone for legitimate reasons.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

He did knee Danny in the head and decide to be a tremendous poo poo to Jojo before George decided to hate Jojo for being poo poo at table manners. On episode three which is the one I stopped on last time except this time I realise it is cool as hell.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.

EmmyOk posted:

This old guy is retarded, he saw enough that it looked like Jojo was owning Dio but didn't see the knife? Dio had a minor setback after being owned by that puddle and Jojo in quick succession but burning a dog alive is a pretty strong comeback.

Dio Brando Is A Very Bad Person

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Keep watching after the credits, they don't do many post-credits scenes but this is one of them.

E: Episode 3 I mean

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Ah so they brought the seller of ASIAN MEDICINE back so Dio could revive himself! Is the lack of a 'To be continued' screen the signifier of a post credits scene?

TriffTshngo posted:

Dio Brando Is A Very Bad Person

He is great and good

yeah actually they will
Aug 18, 2012

TriffTshngo posted:

Dio Brando Is A Very Bad Person
How dare you

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...

EmmyOk posted:

Is the lack of a 'To be continued' screen the signifier of a post credits scene?

Yes.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
Dio Brando Did Some Things Wrong

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


He murdered a DOG

HE MURDERED A DOG

"some things" my rear end

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 18 hours!
Dio Brando Allegedly May Have Committed Acts That Are Frowned Upon.

tiistai
Nov 1, 2012

Solo Melodica
Everyone makes mistakes sometimes, the important thing is that we learn from them

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

The dog surprised him and he reacted. Also he thought those ruffians secret martial arts like poking someone in the eye for free.

Okuyasu Nijimura
May 31, 2015


The fact that DIO is a bad man is what makes DIO cool

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.

Dio Brando is a Bad Person

... but a fantastic vampire.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
Dio Brando Did Some Things Wrong

but DIO really didn't

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'
I like how they pronounce Dio Brando

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Have watched first episode. It was beautiful. Looking forward to rest of year watching adventures of Un-Punch Man.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

JoJo liveblogging is like mana from heaven. What a beautiful day in S-district, A-city, ADTRW-cho.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
The answer to the question "Is X thing in Jojo a musical reference?" is always yes.

gnome7
Oct 21, 2010

Who's this Little
Spaghetti?? ??
https://vine.co/v/ij6alWv2PTl

BaDandy
Apr 3, 2013

"This taste...

is the taste of a liar!"

SyntheticPolygon posted:

This theory is dumb because it directly contradicts Speedwagon who can smell that Dio is just pure evil and a huge rear end in a top hat. And I don't know how anyone could possibly not fully trust Speedwagon and whatever he says. :colbert:

I have no idea where the "George is a bad and abusive father" thing comes from, but it's stupid and just not true, not to mention that Dio wants George to see Jonathan in a bad light and not worthy of the inheritance.

If anything, Dio not liking George probably comes from George trying to be extra nice and Dio misinterpreting it as just emphasizing that he's to be pitied. Like, George may have done what was common for the time and use corporeal punishment when needed but drat, at least he tried. It isn't his fault how Dio reacts to him to trying to be overly nice.

Plus, Speedwagon is always right, so :colbert:

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
Basically no matter how good of a father George tried to be to the boys, Dio always viewed his love through the self-affixed lens of being a charity case.

Part 1 Dio strikes me as the sort of person who needs to feel in control of the situation, even if they aren't. Growing up in the slums with a good-for-nothing father, it's easy to see how he might have come to think this way. There are those who go with the flow and those who fight the current. Dio's a fighter, or tries to be. The greatest sin in his mind is not pride or greed or lust but powerlessness; allowing oneself to be swept along by fate and circumstance. His father was born a loser and he lived a like loser and he died like a loser. Dio wanted better for himself, and probably would've preferred to make his own way. I doubt he knew about the letter when he poisoned his father, but all of a sudden it turns out he gets to go live with some rich folks. Well, Dio's not in the mood to be "Given" anything but he'll "Take" as much as he wants. In his own twisted mind, that's how he justifies "Earning" his success.

The end result is a sort of psychological paradox where Dio's more than happy to take advantage of people but refuses to accept acts of kindness, not unlike how somebody might resent everyone above them while dismissing anyone below. George talks about "Supporting" Dio, "You're family to me," which Dio likely processed as "That's right. I'm like family to him. Not actually family, just like family. Just a kid he picked up off the street because he could - because he promised. He made a promise before I was even born. I could've been anyone; he wouldn't care. He'd accept me just because, through no merit of my own." Although Dio's aim has long been established as the Joestar fortune, he objects to being "Handed" his victory in this way, and resents George for thinking himself so generous when he's just (in Dios mind) fulfilling his end of a social contract, an obligation, or "Fate."

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.
Man, Dio's ambition makes Nobunaga look like a punkass.

itskage
Aug 26, 2003


You thought this was a punch mans anime, but it was actually a deep psychological dive into the mind of a poverty stricken adolescent who's adoption to the bourgeoisie acted as the catalyst that would give rise to me! Dio!

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
You joke but this ain't even a quarter of the stuff I could write about Dio.

Dude's my favorite villain period. Gonna read too much into him all I want!

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Bad Seafood should write all he has to write about my close friend and inarguably good person, Dio "DIO" Brando for our enjoyment.

e:
↓ You could argue that any goal post that would define DIO as bad was in the wrong place to begin with, so moving them is only righting that wrong.

Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Apr 3, 2016

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Dio Brando done nothing wrong as long as you don't move the goal posts and include all those bad things he did :colbert:


Anyway, I'm probably gonna start liveposting the anime soon. I've read the manga up to the start of Pt5, but have never watched the anime. I'm excited to see the differences.

Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Apr 3, 2016

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
Hey...

aren't zombies great?

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



No but punching zombies and making them melt is.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I don't think George is an abusive father, but he does seem to heap a lot of favoritism on Dio in comparison to Jonathan. Maybe he was just being hard on Jonathan because he expected more of him, but ehhh.

Bad Seafood posted:

Basically no matter how good of a father George tried to be to the boys, Dio always viewed his love through the self-affixed lens of being a charity case.

Yeah, I agree. There's one part during Episode 2, I think, where Dio is being all kind and cordial to George and George says something to the effect of "Don't worry, you'll still get your inheritance.". And then Dio just starts speaking with thinly veiled sarcastic self-deprecation.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

I just finished episode seven where Tonpetty, Dire, and hard to spell name showed up. Holy poo poo Zeppelli that was the most specific prophecy ever, what did you expect?

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

EmmyOk posted:

I just finished episode seven where Tonpetty, Dire, and hard to spell name showed up. Holy poo poo Zeppelli that was the most specific prophecy ever, what did you expect?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Jotaro's hat/hair situation remains ineffable.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
So re: stand name chat..what's the deal with having to change names at all? Is "we're directly translating the source material" not give some manner of fair use protection?

I guess I'm just not grasping why subtitles can't use a band or song name.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Serious Frolicking posted:

Jotaro's hat/hair situation remains ineffable.

Speaking of Jotaro, I couldn't help but notice something when I was rewatching Part 3 with a friend who had never seen it.

Iggy starts off as a kind of realistic looking dog.



Then they take the group photo.



Iggy is extremely photogenic. :v:

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

jivjov posted:

So re: stand name chat..what's the deal with having to change names at all? Is "we're directly translating the source material" not give some manner of fair use protection?

I guess I'm just not grasping why subtitles can't use a band or song name.

Even though it wouldn't infringe on anything that wouldn't stop some prima donna from starting a frivolous lawsuit anyway. I mean poo poo, there are some prince references and he is notorious for being a litigious dickwad.

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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Anime licensors like Viz are tiny compared to the monolith that is the record industry, and even if a court would find in their favor, a lawsuit would be a lot of time and money that would be hard for them to absorb, so it's really better safe than sorry.

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