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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

They've said they heard the community's desire for mega characters, but that they want to do that separately if they're able to, in part because the current mega characters aren't so hot.

Dr Cheeto posted:

Murky Station has safe spots absolutely everywhere, all the mission equipment has audio cues telling you where they are, there's a whiteboard displaying the location of every piece of equipment, and drones give you a lot of advance warning before they actually turn on. It's absolutely not a gently caress-off stealth mission and clearly had a lot of thought put into it.

e: there's even a place for people who aren't good at stealth to hang out and spot guards with the theia scope with no risk of getting spotted. Have someone good at stealth carry you through while you actually perform a useful task. Best stealth heist in the game bar none IMO.

I think that may actually be the thing kalstrams is complaining about- there aren't any unique elements or features, all the elements are heavily signposted, and there's a safe spot every 5 meters. I'm going to get no time out of the heist because it's childishly easy, even on DW. I don't think it was cobbled together by an intern, but I do think it doesn't have any depth.

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spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Discendo Vox posted:

They've said they heard the community's desire for mega characters, but that they want to do that separately if they're able to, in part because the current mega characters aren't so hot.

:mad: That's dumb, those pubbies deserve nothing but my contempt.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp


I'm trying, man

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

this could apply to everyone in the thread, and regardless of LM's status as a shitposter (or yours, or mine, etc) how is it wrong to call someone here? If LM's claim is correct - that is the situation. Like, let's look at it like this:

Poster X makes big sweeping claims, poster X does not have actual evidence of their position, poster X gets called out.

how's that in any way unusual? that's like, how the internet works. So why are you rolling in to make a personal attack on LM about it?

Psion fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Apr 3, 2016

THE CHORSE
May 17, 2005

CHORSY MOOMS CHORSE JEEF

Psion posted:

Poster X

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
:golfclap:

I'm just saying, if you take the particular individuals out of the equation, what happened wasn't at all unusual but Coolguye writes some weirdo "why do you care so much, get help because you care" post which demonstrates he cares a lot about this thread about this game on the internet. The irony didn't escape anyone, right?

e: To explain where I'm coming from, I would rather some poor newbie getting into this game in 2016 reading this thread get the right information even if we gotta call each other out on it rather than just let misinformation or outright incorrect statements or whatever perpetuate, no matter who they come from.


Psion fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Apr 3, 2016

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
this really isn't a contest on who can care least, this is an honest reality check because he has filled the last few pages with fostering a crazy elitism about playing a game while a bug was active, to the point of investing time in creating a faulty mutator to, I dunno, recapture the magic or something I guess, all while being colossally arrogant and stupid and defending the idea that he's actually not being colossally arrogant and stupid but has a right to act as such because he is good at this game

i recognize that nobody playing a 2 year old shootman game is a well adjusted adult but we have told skunk to take a break for less than this poo poo

i mean if this is all some elaborate troll and he is just playing a part then okay cool you got me I guess the jokes on me since he's just pretending to be retarded but goddamn if it doesn't fit perfectly with the same dumb poo poo that goes on from time to time, just cranked well past the point of sanity or sense

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Poster X is actually LuciferMorningstar's older brother whose family believes died in a tragic shitposting accident.

clockworkjoe
May 31, 2000

Rolled a 1 on the random encounter table, didn't you?

Discendo Vox posted:

They've said they heard the community's desire for mega characters, but that they want to do that separately if they're able to, in part because the current mega characters aren't so hot.

But Mega Kawaii exists? Did you factor that into your equations



In Grinder akimbo SMG chat - I prefer carrying a HE Judge as my secondary as a utility weapon - on DW stunning dozers, shields, and crowds of cops is frequently more useful than killing a few more cops. When the new skills come out, I want to try an oppressor build with the knockdown skill and a LMG just to see if I can stunlock entire waves of cops with a LMG. Could be DW viable.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

clockworkjoe posted:

But Mega Kawaii exists? Did you factor that into your equations

Hey, I love Mega Kawaii- when I say characters I mean like Mega Chains.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Psion posted:

e: To explain where I'm coming from, I would rather some poor newbie getting into this game in 2016 reading this thread get the right information even if we gotta call each other out on it rather than just let misinformation or outright incorrect statements or whatever perpetuate, no matter who they come from.

This is all precisely the reason I don't put sperg stuff in the OP despite some insisting PMs and only mentioned the long guide in the OP instead of linking it.

This "You must be this tall to post" poo poo is the worst about Games forum posting and half the reason I don't even look at threads for games I like most of the time. Fine, someone was right, and I agree he was right, but a page full of "I told you so" "okay fine shut up" "no I was right" "Well it's the way he posted" about a scripting event is the biggest baby crap and worse for first-timers to see than the original question of a briefcase. We're posting about posting, and if we keep it up, I'll report all of us, including myself.

Plan Z fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Apr 3, 2016

IndianaZoidberg
Aug 21, 2011

My name isnt slick, its Zoidberg. JOHN F***ING ZOIDBERG!
If someone has a Completely OVERKILL Pack in there Steam inventory, I will pay/trade another Steam game of your choosing for it.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

IndianaZoidberg posted:

If someone has a Completely OVERKILL Pack in there Steam inventory, I will pay/trade another Steam game of your choosing for it.

People are paying like >$100 for these keys, it's insane

IndianaZoidberg
Aug 21, 2011

My name isnt slick, its Zoidberg. JOHN F***ING ZOIDBERG!

Dr Cheeto posted:

People are paying like >$100 for these keys, it's insane

:argh:

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Plan Z posted:

This is all precisely the reason I don't put sperg stuff in the OP despite some insisting PMs and only mentioned the long guide in the OP instead of linking it.

It also makes the OP nice and low-maintenance for you. I'm sure that's only a fringe benefit. :v:

but for real a tailored question/answer in the thread for a New Payday 2 Player is way better than "read these 8000 pages nobody but Dr Cheeto has memorized"

clockworkjoe
May 31, 2000

Rolled a 1 on the random encounter table, didn't you?

Discendo Vox posted:

Hey, I love Mega Kawaii- when I say characters I mean like Mega Chains.

Yeah no argument here. I've used Mega Chains a few times but they are kind of average.

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD



Going rate is about 70 CSGO keys right now.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
So looking at the Mastermind re-tooling, I was super disappointed to see the pistol skills disappear and the rifle skills take center stage, until I realized that Mastermind now has first-aid kits, which suggests that perhaps Fugitive is about to get some much needed love, including potentially moving the pistol skills over there with the akimbo stuff mixed in, plus the dodge and light armor bonuses, resulting in my ultimate dream class. Fingers crossed.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

Psion posted:

but for real a tailored question/answer in the thread for a New Payday 2 Player is way better than "read these 8000 pages nobody but Dr Cheeto has memorized"

Hey, that's not fair.

Vox probably has them memorized, too.

Real talk, though, it's great that the long guide isn't in the OP. It's enormous and it's become a lot less relevant to everyday criming since the crimefest rebalance anyhow.

Anonymous Robot posted:

So looking at the Mastermind re-tooling, I was super disappointed to see the pistol skills disappear and the rifle skills take center stage, until I realized that Mastermind now has first-aid kits, which suggests that perhaps Fugitive is about to get some much needed love, including potentially moving the pistol skills over there with the akimbo stuff mixed in, plus the dodge and light armor bonuses, resulting in my ultimate dream class. Fingers crossed.

Pistol skills are going somewhere. Probably Fugitive, though who knows. Find out this Friday!

Dr Cheeto fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Apr 3, 2016

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Coolguye posted:

i mean if this is all some elaborate troll and he is just playing a part then okay cool you got me I guess the jokes on me since he's just pretending to be retarded but goddamn if it doesn't fit perfectly with the same dumb poo poo that goes on from time to time, just cranked well past the point of sanity or sense

I play with him routinely and while he has bad ideas (see, e.g., turrets on DW) he's as well-adjusted as any of us, so take that for what it's worth. honestly I think you've just had it out for his posting for so long you don't actually read the words he posts you just see it's from LM and get mad about it. That's fine, but in this instance he was not wrong.

But also, having been in that game he was bragging about, let's be honest: that loving map on Day 1 Deathwish where every regular enemy was a blue SWAT? Being proud of that is loving legit. Being a smug shitposter about it is, well, par for the course here in Payday 2: Colossal Goatfuck Thread. :v:

Also - the briefcase trick is valuable to know about for players of different skill levels because you never know how good they are, right? What we had to do to beat bugged Deathwish is something other players might want to know about so they can do it on fixed DW, or Overkill, or normal for all I care - play whatever level you play on, right?

When you have to fight up and out of an underground lab, across a big courtyard and then out into an open deathfield worse than Bomb: Train for cops to pixel-snipe you from across the map? Yeah, I think knowing how to control when you end up having infinite cops on you is valuable information.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

UnknownMercenary posted:

Going rate is about 70 CSGO keys right now.

Overkill must be laughing their collective asses off at all the e-rage over the COP turning into them and Valve making a loving mint off the hoarded COP resale market.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Psion posted:

But also, having been in that game he was bragging about, let's be honest: that loving map on Day 1 Deathwish where every regular enemy was a blue SWAT? Being proud of that is loving legit.
that's not what i said

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Psion posted:

Overkill must be laughing their collective asses off at all the e-rage over the COP turning into them and Valve making a loving mint off the hoarded COP resale market.

The trading forum was literally filled with people trying to sell the drat thing for 100 keys when the first wave of masks was announced, like some idiot is really going to pay 200 dollars for Mega Kawaii.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Dr Cheeto posted:



I'm trying, man


We all want to be as cool as those cups, my man. Yours looks much better.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
I really want to make a mask with that cup pattern now. drat it :negative:

IndianaZoidberg
Aug 21, 2011

My name isnt slick, its Zoidberg. JOHN F***ING ZOIDBERG!

UnknownMercenary posted:

Going rate is about 70 CSGO keys right now.

Booooo!

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

Grapplejack posted:


We all want to be as cool as those cups, my man. Yours looks much better.

I originally used turquoise/purple, but I've settled on magenta/cyan being nicer. You just can't see the purple otherwise.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Discendo Vox posted:

Hey, I love Mega Kawaii- when I say characters I mean like Mega Chains.

Remember when you said they weren't going to do Mega Kawaii? :allears:

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
vox lied people died

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Psion posted:

It also makes the OP nice and low-maintenance for you. I'm sure that's only a fringe benefit. :v:

but for real a tailored question/answer in the thread for a New Payday 2 Player is way better than "read these 8000 pages nobody but Dr Cheeto has memorized"

Sort of, but I mostly want to keep it inviting. I regularly update it at least once a week or so when and even remove stuff that references old dates so people don't think it's dead. I keep size down for ease of maintenance and easy reading for new players.

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!

Psion posted:

But also, having been in that game he was bragging about, let's be honest: that loving map on Day 1 Deathwish where every regular enemy was a blue SWAT? Being proud of that is loving legit.

Please. Let me show you a real challenge run.



:shepface:

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
Congrats on soloing Deathwish

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

Coolguye posted:

this really isn't a contest on who can care least, this is an honest reality check because he has filled the last few pages with fostering a crazy elitism about playing a game while a bug was active, to the point of investing time in creating a faulty mutator to, I dunno, recapture the magic or something I guess, all while being colossally arrogant and stupid and defending the idea that he's actually not being colossally arrogant and stupid but has a right to act as such because he is good at this game

i recognize that nobody playing a 2 year old shootman game is a well adjusted adult but we have told skunk to take a break for less than this poo poo

i mean if this is all some elaborate troll and he is just playing a part then okay cool you got me I guess the jokes on me since he's just pretending to be retarded but goddamn if it doesn't fit perfectly with the same dumb poo poo that goes on from time to time, just cranked well past the point of sanity or sense

This entire post is loving hilarious even including the part where he insults me. You want to talk about crazy elitism? I actually have played a game with Lucifer and I'm the one who gave him that avatar. I don't even like the guy. But we have played PD2 together because I don't foster any kind of elitism. Doesn't matter if I don't like you or not, if you want to come heist in Payday 2 or whatever, I don't play many other games online like ever, then gently caress yeah. Let's go. Let's do this poo poo. I'm down even if I don't like you because you know what? I like gaming. But you mother fuckers who are always in here insulting people and talking poo poo with your "take a break skunkrocker" crap and "LM needs to seek professional help"? Holy poo poo you have your own channel on the mumble and you never associate with any of us. Like we all have a good time shooting cops and stealthing yards together, but you can only do it with your core group of like eight people and dare anyone else to enter the room. That's elitism, that's turning people away at the door. We're not part of your special club because you don't want us to be. The only time you ever talk to any of us "normal people" is when you want to be an rear end in a top hat, so don't bother talking down to us. We already know, you're better or whatever.

Your problem is you think we need you. Vox, Coolguye, Sykic. We need you to be here. That is how deep your narcissism goes. But we don't need you. We never did. Regardless of your rear end in a top hat nature, we're here to have fun and that's what we're going to do. Have a great night! :v:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

Coolguye posted:

just cranked well past the point of sanity or sense

All the evidence is there... But can Coolguye piece it together???

Sykic posted:

Please. Let me show you a real challenge run.



:shepface:

:dogbutton:

I guess I have to do DW Boiling Point solo now. RIP.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

isndl posted:

Remember when you said they weren't going to do Mega Kawaii? :allears:

:shrug: They said they weren't too, so I guess something changed; the person doing the porn got arrested iirc.

Psion posted:

Congrats on soloing Deathwish

My friend, clearing a DW heist with me in tow makes day 1 Boiling Point look like a cakewalk.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Apr 3, 2016

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Discendo Vox posted:

They said they weren't too, something changed; the person doing the porn got arrested iirc.

He was arrested for trying to go into Hangout and talk to us.

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx
replace thread title to cliques with cops tia

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

Afraid of Audio posted:

replace thread title to cliques with cops tia

:master:

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Skunkrocker posted:

This entire post is loving hilarious even including the part where he insults me. You want to talk about crazy elitism? I actually have played a game with Lucifer and I'm the one who gave him that avatar. I don't even like the guy. But we have played PD2 together because I don't foster any kind of elitism. Doesn't matter if I don't like you or not, if you want to come heist in Payday 2 or whatever, I don't play many other games online like ever, then gently caress yeah. Let's go. Let's do this poo poo. I'm down even if I don't like you because you know what? I like gaming. But you mother fuckers who are always in here insulting people and talking poo poo with your "take a break skunkrocker" crap and "LM needs to seek professional help"? Holy poo poo you have your own channel on the mumble and you never associate with any of us. Like we all have a good time shooting cops and stealthing yards together, but you can only do it with your core group of like eight people and dare anyone else to enter the room. That's elitism, that's turning people away at the door. We're not part of your special club because you don't want us to be. The only time you ever talk to any of us "normal people" is when you want to be an rear end in a top hat, so don't bother talking down to us. We already know, you're better or whatever.

Your problem is you think we need you. Vox, Coolguye, Sykic. We need you to be here. That is how deep your narcissism goes. But we don't need you. We never did. Regardless of your rear end in a top hat nature, we're here to have fun and that's what we're going to do. Have a great night! :v:

have you read this

like none of it is even remotely based in reality dude

like i've played pd2 with you on multiple occasions but it was a while ago, the idea i only play with hangout group people is patently false.

i earnestly told you to take a break when you were melting down in here. you did so and were better off for it. by your own admission.

i've happily maintained both the pd2 and helldivers channels for anyone who comes in. i've even linked hangout group channels to be even MORE inclusive. if you choose not to come by that's your decision. it's really no skin off my back.

i'd also love to hear where you got the idea that 'we need you'. seriously what. like what the gently caress even. i will tell you exactly how i see poo poo and you can take it or leave it at your leisure. lucy and i have this poo poo figured out. i tell him poo poo, he frequently ignores me, it's fine. he tells me poo poo, i frequently ignore him, it's fine. you may not realize that we have this dynamic in 2 other threads but we do.

you really need to get your poo poo together dude. you realize that also lmao skunkrocker - ie, the thing that actually insults you, not anything i ever said - didn't come from me?

LuciferMorningstar posted:

All the evidence is there... But can Coolguye piece it together???
it appears to be in the sentence before the one you quoted :o

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Apr 4, 2016

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UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Discendo Vox posted:

My friend, clearing a DW heist with me in tow makes day 1 Boiling Point look like a cakewalk.

Remember that time we did DW Birth of Sky when mumble was down and we had to open 2 slots to pubs? I lost count of how many attempts that took. Good times.

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