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Deathreaper posted:Haven't been keeping up with GPUs lately - any reason to flash the R9 290 to a R9 390. From what I recall, it was some driver BS giving the 390 a performance boost - was it anything else in the firmware? Driver-wise, a big thing back when driver downsampling was just happening for AMD cards was higher DS resolutions only if it detected a high-end card, but as of now, any card can downsample from any resolution, and as of Crimson, I'm pretty sure old per-card optimizations are gone. Beyond the clock changes, memory timings are better in comparison to stock 200's, which no one's reported being as unstable if your card has already been successfully flashed, which is probably the biggest change It's enough of a performance bump to give it a shot, this was the guide I used last year, and benchmarks are near the bottom http://www.overclock.net/t/1564219/modded-r9-390x-bios-for-r9-290-290x-updated-02-16-2016
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I think I made the right decision in having a friend buy a used MSI TwinFrozr 280X 3GB for the same price as a 960 2GB? ($160) He's already bought it, but I'm looking for validation. It's the older Tahiti design, but he doesn't care about variable refresh and he just wants/wanted a stop-gap for the next year.
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LiquidRain posted:I think I made the right decision in having a friend buy a used MSI TwinFrozr 280X 3GB for the same price as a 960 2GB? ($160) He's already bought it, but I'm looking for validation. It's the older Tahiti design, but he doesn't care about variable refresh and he just wants/wanted a stop-gap for the next year. The 280X is the faster card so it seems like the right choice to me. The only disadvantage is that the 280X eats up a lot more power.
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Yeah the 960 is probably the least attractive card in the Nvidia lineup, I would definitely choose AMD instead at that price range.
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I have an Nvidia GTX 980 that I use 100% for video output. However, I might want to use Intel QuickSync in the future, so is it worth enabling the iGPU? Does it have any performance difference if I leave it enabled but don't connect any monitors to it? What is the recommended approach when using a dedicated PCIe card like my GTX 980? (Also, if it matters, my CPU is an i7-6700k) EDIT: It looks like DirectX 12 has a multi adapter feature that can use both integrated and discrete GPU for increased performance? Vinlaen fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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Apr 4, 2016 03:20
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Only when transcoding video to disk.
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Sorry, I just made an edit but it was too late. I've just read an article that mentions DirectX 12 supporting multi adapter and showing performance increases using integrated plus discrete graphics?
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Vinlaen posted:Sorry, I just made an edit but it was too late. Old article. The question is whether games will support it, and whether NVIDIA will allow drivers to support it. Games will probably be using off-the-shelf engines, which makes them more likely to support it, but also NVIDIA hates competition. And actually there's not really that much reason to use it past the native ~20% boost AMD gets from DX12.
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LiquidRain posted:I think I made the right decision in having a friend buy a used MSI TwinFrozr 280X 3GB for the same price as a 960 2GB? ($160) He's already bought it, but I'm looking for validation. It's the older Tahiti design, but he doesn't care about variable refresh and he just wants/wanted a stop-gap for the next year. For a stopgap? Absolutely, it's a faster card and less likely to have memory size issues.
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LiquidRain posted:I think I made the right decision in having a friend buy a used MSI TwinFrozr 280X 3GB for the same price as a 960 2GB? ($160) He's already bought it, but I'm looking for validation. It's the older Tahiti design, but he doesn't care about variable refresh and he just wants/wanted a stop-gap for the next year. Mmmm a 280x is a better choice here for for the same money, however that card in particular has a shady past. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127759
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Paul MaudDib posted:Old article. The question is whether games will support it, and whether NVIDIA will allow drivers to support it. Games will probably be using off-the-shelf engines, which makes them more likely to support it, but also NVIDIA hates competition. And actually there's not really that much reason to use it past the native ~20% boost AMD gets from DX12. If they dont then they cant slap DX12 READY FULLY COMPATIBLE on the box. They know that so its why theyre doing the whole NVLink stuff.
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feedmegin posted:And yes, signed firmware is coming AFAIK it's already here - I had to use a cracked nvflash to use a custom rom on maxwell. Vinlaen posted:I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I have an Nvidia GTX 980 that I use 100% for video output. However, I might want to use Intel QuickSync in the future, so is it worth enabling the iGPU? I tried doing this and it wouldn't work, because ASUS in all their knowledge decided not to wire the onboard gpu to anything at all, probably thinking "this is an xfire/sli mobo, surely nobody will use the haswell gpu for anything??". Well, I want to, but I can't.
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:Mmmm a 280x is a better choice here for for the same money, however that card in particular has a shady past.
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Bleh Maestro posted:Nvidda announcement To-morrow? Everybody seems to be expecting it. High value demo units were spotted shipped into the conference
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Bleh Maestro posted:Nvidda announcement To-morrow? Yeah, Jen Hsun-Huang is making a keynote at noon tomorrow. I think that's when it'll happen, if they're announcing at GTC.
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Sweet, can't wait to see the new Quadro. (Insert joke about it being the new Maxwell M5500)
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xthetenth posted:Sweet, can't wait to see the new Quadro. (Insert joke about it being the new Maxwell M5500) That thing uses 150 watts lol. The brick on that laptop would be crazy
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Truga posted:I tried doing this and it wouldn't work, because ASUS in all their knowledge decided not to wire the onboard gpu to anything at all, probably thinking "this is an xfire/sli mobo, surely nobody will use the haswell gpu for anything??".
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Hey Durinia: is it any cheaper to make a die-shrink mask instead of a whole new one? (ignoring the engineering/debugging costs of a new architecture) In particular I was wondering if there would be any benefits to making the lower-end workstation chips simple die-shrinks of Kepler, while focusing their architectural work on a big HBM chip (with DP capabilities, disabled on graphics variants) and a smaller graphics-oriented chip ala Maxwell. But, probably too costly to make chips on 3 entirely different architectures... Anyone care to read the tea leaves on what gets announced tomorrow? (if anything) Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:Hey Durinia: is it any cheaper to make a die-shrink mask instead of a whole new one? (ignoring the engineering/debugging costs of a new architecture) The problem here is the false notion of 'die shrink'. While some features of a chip get smaller with each 'shrink', some don't. Straight up universal shrinks stopped being a thing in the early 2000's, and everything recent is tweaking some thigns to make them smaller, and balancing them against things which cannot get any smaller (eg: vdc lines). That isn't even talking about the hassle of routing data aorund the chip, and how sensitive it is to changes in timing. There are tools that can help a lot with process changes, but there is no 'push butan' software that can shrink a mask anymore. EoRaptor fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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My main prediction is a gap between big pascal with a bunch of whatever memory exists now to compete with Knights Landing, and two or three chips starting from the bottom. If three it'll be interesting to see how this compares to AMD holding off on their second biggest chip in order to get better memory on it.
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Any hope the new video cards will come out for the launch of the new DOOM game? My current 660Ti won't cut the mustard for that game but I don't want to get a 970 or a 390 if Pascal and Polaris are right around the corner.
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Alereon posted:That doesn't seem right, what board? Eh, of course I googled again just now and found the fix. When I bought this PC nobody knew what the hell was going on and people just started assuming it won't work because asus is dumb, but now OBS forum told me to enable "multimonitor something or another" in bios, and yeah, it started working. So yeah, it kinda didn't work because asus makes a dumb bios with settings in weird places under 4 menus I guess. Thanks for making me google this again 
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spasticColon posted:Any hope the new video cards will come out for the launch of the new DOOM game? My current 660Ti won't cut the mustard for that game but I don't want to get a 970 or a 390 if Pascal and Polaris are right around the corner. Doom runs like hell on my 970 as well, so I think there might be problems with it. I get 25-50 FPS at the default settings with a 4790k and 32GB RAM. It doesn't use SLI, but neither the CPU nor GPU were maxed while it was failing to achieve 60.
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It's just trying to be helpful and imitate the experience of playing it on a console so that you can know true pain.
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wolrah posted:Doom runs like hell on my 970 as well, so I think there might be problems with it. I get 25-50 FPS at the default settings with a 4790k and 32GB RAM. It doesn't use SLI, but neither the CPU nor GPU were maxed while it was failing to achieve 60. Funny, since ID demos that game with Nvidia stuff . I wouldn't worry too much I doubt it'll run like that for release I got to play the developers for 6 minutes. I got creamed by Carmack's son... Who was using a 360 controller
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wolrah posted:Doom runs like hell on my 970 as well, so I think there might be problems with it. I get 25-50 FPS at the default settings with a 4790k and 32GB RAM. It doesn't use SLI, but neither the CPU nor GPU were maxed while it was failing to achieve 60. to be fair overwatch also ran like crap on a 980ti until a few patches ago.
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:Funny, since ID demos that game with Nvidia stuff . I wouldn't worry too much I doubt it'll run like that for release Yeah, but that's kind of like Paul Atreides beating you at fortune telling.
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:Funny, since ID demos that game with Nvidia stuff . I wouldn't worry too much I doubt it'll run like that for release Game is also locked to 16:9. Which sucks. Ultrawide Master Race! GTC 2016 begins in 4 hours! Come on Pascal!
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SlayVus posted:Game is also locked to 16:9. Which sucks. Ultrawide Master Race! I wish more games supported it well
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Is there a benefit to locking aspect ratio? Other than hiding things you don't want seen in cutscenes I guess
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SlayVus posted:Game is also locked to 16:9. Which sucks. Ultrawide Master Race! You can change launch parameters to whatever resolution and fov you want Still plays like poo poo though cause of mouse control problems.
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I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this: Currently I have a GeForce 970 that's running two 27" 1440p 165Hz panels and it's really under powered for this. I keep getting one monitor randomly going dark and gaming performance is passable at best. I want to upgrade my graphics card, would it be better to run these monitors off a 980 Ti or should I try 970's in SLI? I'm a little nervous the second monitor going dark is a symptom of an underlying graphics card hardware issue as the monitor is fine when the connections are switched and seems to come back after running re-detection a few times. So I'm not sure it's worth trying to keep using that 970 in an SLI build.
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Nodelphi posted:I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this: Good timing, in literally 15 minutes they are announcing the next release of GPU's. But in general 970 SLI isn't a great option when the 980ti exists. There is a good chance used 980ti's will be sold for relatively cheap in the coming month as well.
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Go with the single card solution - a 980Ti is about price and performance par with 970s in SLI. You just don't have to do the janky SLI stuff and am absurd amount of new releases don't even support it.
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980 Ti is equivalent to SLI 970s in both price and performance and single card is always preferable to SLI if possible, so sell your 970 and upgrade. But hold on we may be getting new GPUs announced in a keynote speech that starts in literally 10 minutes.
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