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Did the horn of goondor get blown yet and is another idiot who can fly a maelstrom at all helpful if so? okay I read the thread and poo poo seems interesting. Also I didn't even get vacationed so seems I just need to resub, which CCP will helpfully let me do for 70p for 10 days shas fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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Endie posted:I was amazed Gigx put up with as much as he did and for as long as he did: he's literally proud to a fault. The trap thing is fiction and everyone except a few gullible karmafleet true believers knows this, but the manner of the exit was a dumb and flamboyant gesture. They should just have extracted quietly a day or two later: that would have been more harmful to the CFC than the grandiose declaration of reset due to the example it would have set. Either the imperium would have let them go peacefully, showing others it was possible, or they would have acted spitefully, showing how they view their allies. I've got no opinion on Sion's treatment of CO2. I will say that based on my own experience with their leadership in the last couple of months leading up to them leaving, that I'm confident they were actively loving us.
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darth cookie posted:I've got no opinion on Sion's treatment of CO2. I will say that based on my own experience with their leadership in the last couple of months leading up to them leaving, that I'm confident they were actively loving us. you're in endies No Spin Zone dude
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Apr 4, 2016 11:13
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Zephyrine posted:30 minutes. I remember that, we just docked up with Lazs Cane Fleet in M-O. The result was that we just yolo'd the whole thing.
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Apr 4, 2016 11:15
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:you're in endies No Spin Zone dude Not a lot I can do to provide proof. I'm not sure what the line is with respect to opsec and I'd rather not find out the hard way. All I can do is put it out there and the people who know me can either believe me or not. 
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Zephyrine posted:30 minutes. That just backs up my point: it was dumb and knee-jerk when the smart move either for their members or for hurting the CFC was to do it by the books over a day or two. darth cookie posted:I've got no opinion on Sion's treatment of CO2. I will say that based on my own experience with their leadership in the last couple of months leading up to them leaving, that I'm confident they were actively loving us. Oh, there's no great secret that after a couple of particularly assertive moves by the CFC late last year Gigx told his alliance to be ready for a reset at any point. They could see that their way of playing was increasingly at odds with the direction of the "Imperium". But my own opinion would be that the actual reset, when it finally came, was at best a knee-jerk reaction to being told their plan to defend Tribute was dumb (which it probably was under the circumstances), and at worst an opportunistic chance to get revenge for earlier, perceived humiliations. Probably both of these and half a dozen other motivations, too.
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darth cookie posted:Not a lot I can do to provide proof. I'm not sure what the line is with respect to opsec and I'd rather not find out the hard way. All I can do is put it out there and the people who know me can either believe me or not. the joke was endie is owned by rupert murdoch
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Endie posted:That just backs up my point: it was dumb and knee-jerk when the smart move either for their members or for hurting the CFC was to do it by the books over a day or two. 
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Apr 4, 2016 11:42
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Endie posted:Oh, there's no great secret that after a couple of particularly assertive moves by the CFC late last year Gigx told his alliance to be ready for a reset at any point. They could see that their way of playing was increasingly at odds with the direction of the "Imperium". But my own opinion would be that the actual reset, when it finally came, was at best a knee-jerk reaction to being told their plan to defend Tribute was dumb (which it probably was under the circumstances), and at worst an opportunistic chance to get revenge for earlier, perceived humiliations. I'm not sure what assertive moves your referring to that might have offended, but the case I'm talking about is a situation where CO2 was given a very favorable outcome though they were severely at fault. edit: In hindsight that decision was probably made to appease them because no appropriate precedent existed and inter alliance harmony was chosen as the most important outcome. There's now a written policy for the situation now, should it arise again. Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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Apr 4, 2016 11:47
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frozenpussy posted:You mean it would have been more amicable for them to secede at a time when coalition supers weren't supposed to move through their space? "Ha, now that we have seceded the CFC supercaps will never suspect that we are going to kill them!" That's even dumber than the official line.
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Apr 4, 2016 11:55
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Endie get help tia
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frozenpussy posted:Endie get help tia
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Endie posted:"Ha, now that we have seceded the CFC supercaps will never suspect that we are going to kill them!" I don't know you well Endie, I only came back playing EVE and joined goons a year ago, and was fighting goons before. I just like to tell you: stop being loving bitter.
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Apr 4, 2016 12:15
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if you leave the goons, youre mentally untable  lol
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Apr 4, 2016 12:18
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thats the official diagnosis from dr goonwafflefleetswarm
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assuring you that upon hearing the accusation of being mentally ill the pearls were clutched irl
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Apr 4, 2016 12:20
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ccp should give vouchers for free evaluations to everyone who plays eve - certified internet docotor blazing zero
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Blazing Zero posted:thats the official diagnosis from dr goonwafflefleetswarm The Party has diagnosed me as suffering from sluggish schozophrenia and philosophical intoxication leading to irrational divergence from right-thinking.
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Apr 4, 2016 12:25
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frozenpussy, in your professional opinion, does drawing elsa's gunge make you more or less unstable than endie
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Endie posted:The Party has diagnosed me as suffering from sluggish schozophrenia and philosophical intoxication leading to irrational divergence from right-thinking. Also known as Yes voter syndrome.
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Apr 4, 2016 12:30
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Blazing Zero posted:frozenpussy, in your professional opinion, does drawing elsa's gunge make you more or less unstable than endie Considering how I understand it's not real I'd say I'm just having fun.
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Oodles posted:Also known as Yes voter syndrome. You'll be first up against Hadrian's Wall, come the revolution, forums poster "Oodles".
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Apr 4, 2016 12:35
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frozenpussy posted:You mean it would have been more amicable for them to secede at a time when coalition supers weren't supposed to move through their space? Endie posted:"Ha, now that we have seceded the CFC supercaps will never suspect that we are going to kill them!" From my understanding of the chain of events, the supers were moved on a spur-of-the-moment route by the ~Goon Hero kcolor~ while (allegedly) PL/NC/MBC supers were logged on ready to jump to ~a point~ on the CO2-planned extraction route who (allegedly) had logoff-trap dictors in position. It was only after the coalition supers were safe that CO2 announced their imminent reset. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't like being wrong.
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Endie posted:You'll be first up against Hadrian's Wall, come the revolution, forums poster "Oodles". I also vote Tory 
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It's me, I'm the goon doctor.
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Doctor Bombadil posted:It's me, I'm the goon doctor. Twee diddle dee, Look at me, It's my diagnosis He's a wee bit aspergy
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Beach Bum posted:From my understanding of the chain of events, the supers were moved on a spur-of-the-moment route by the ~Goon Hero kcolor~ while (allegedly) PL/NC/MBC supers were logged on ready to jump to ~a point~ on the CO2-planned extraction route who (allegedly) had logoff-trap dictors in position. It was only after the coalition supers were safe that CO2 announced their imminent reset. While I was commenting on the cart-before-horse reversal of the timeline in frozenpussy's post, I would say that I've been told by several people who would have known that the dictor traps are fictional. I think most people view the whole supercap trap aspect of the conspiracy theory as pretty weak. The fact that we had our entire supercap fleet logged-on was a show of force thing: it would be an awful way to execute a trap. That all being said, I accept that anyone who is by now on either side of the was there/wasn't there a trap debate are pretty set on that position by now, and someone on the other side from you saying "I spoke to various of your enemies and they all swear on their mums there was no trap or nuffink" is not, by now, going to sway anyone.
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Put it to you this way; I HOPE that CO2 at least tried to trap our super fleet on their way out, otherwise they're both traitorous AND incompetent, and frankly, we deserve a better class of enemy.
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dialhforhero posted:Twee diddle dee, Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow; Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. One simple truth there is, that cannot be refuted Right-thinking people want to see Tom executed.
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Oodles posted:I also vote Tory you actually should be against the wall then
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darth cookie posted:Put it to you this way; This. I don't understand why Co2 wants to cry foul on the super trap. Is being an incompetent traitor better than a half competent one? And what were their plans for Tribute? Did they plan to live there? Do they believe that Grath was going to hold an umbrella over their heads after the war?
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Zephyrine posted:This. maybe they just didnt want to play with goons anymore?
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If there is one thing I have no time for it is men who just want to watch the world burn.
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Endie posted:If there is one thing I have no time for it is men who just want to watch the world burn. so why are you trying so hard to make a mess of this thread
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darth cookie posted:I HOPE that CO2 at least tried to trap our super fleet on their way out, otherwise they're both traitorous AND incompetent, and frankly, we deserve a better class of enemy. Say what you can about BoB, but I don't recall any of their pets joining the RSF with 30 minutes notice. Pets in those days knew how to respect their overlords and were just incompetent. Some of them are in the CFC these days, so who knows what's going on. Though in those days, the GIA would have known about it beforehand too, so everyone seems elevated in their traitorous incompetency. I'm surprised someone wasn't fired from the GIA for not knowing about it beforehand. Or maybe they tried to warn the Imperial leadership and was told they were wrong in the head thinking it might be possible for it to happen.
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darth cookie posted:I've got no opinion on Sion's treatment of CO2. I will say that based on my own experience with their leadership in the last couple of months leading up to them leaving, that I'm confident they were actively loving us. indeed they were, even making NAP pacts with enemies which you werent aware of as far as i know.
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i have no idea why people are surprised co2 flipped when they would be the one the 10 million of alliances in the past who did so when caught on the not winning team.Comstar posted:Say what you can about BoB, but I don't recall any of their pets joining the RSF with 30 minutes notice. Pets in those days knew how to respect their overlords and were just incompetent. Some of them are in the CFC these days, so who knows what's going on. I assume if someone or some agent was fired it wouldn't be made public
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frozenpussy posted:so why are you trying so hard to make a mess of this thread Do facts outside the narrative frighten you?
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Blazing Zero posted:ccp should give vouchers for free evaluations to everyone who plays eve Is Albion Online playable again?
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