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Have they actually pulled the plug on any car's supercharger privs though? Until they set a cap, saying just "there's a cap" doesn't mean there's a cap
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I promise somewhere in the fine print they're allowed to tell you to gently caress off if every day you're parking your car daily for 8 hours at a supercharger while you work and it's preventing other people from being able to charge or some other super dick move like that.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Typically, deposits like this are not allowed to be treated as recognized revenue and are held in escrow. Apparently when you put down the deposit they say that it will be used operationally and not kept separated from general funds.
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Apr 2, 2016 21:10
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Subjunctive posted:Apparently when you put down the deposit they say that it will be used operationally and not kept separated from general funds. I'd have to imagine this means "we're not going to literally put it in a separate bank account, but we still are going to consider it a $115M liability on our books", not "lol we're spending the money and it's gone." I think a sixth-grader could figure out why you shouldn't spend money that you might have to pay back in its entirety at any time.
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Sagebrush posted:I think a sixth-grader could figure out why you shouldn't spend money that you might have to pay back in its entirety at any time. Yeah, but that sixth grader isn't doing venture capital in the valley.
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Sagebrush posted:I think a sixth-grader could figure out why you shouldn't spend money that you might have to pay back in its entirety at any time. Why should banks be the only ones doing fractional reserve?
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Oh man. I just took a Model X for a spin in Ludicrous mode. I think it's a combination of the size of the thing and the huge panoramic windshield, but to me it feels faster than the S (though to be fair I've only driven P85D/P90, not Ludicrous). Autopilot was great, it's really come a long way from the adaptive cruise control. I'll be excited to see where it goes in the future as development continues.
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I'll have to go back and check my previous years taxes to be sure I can leverage that full tax credit. Maybe I'll adjust my withholding a bit in 2017 (2018?) to owe a little more if necessary. Thanks for that pro-tip, I was totally in the ignorant camp of "thought I was getting some kind of check". My record tax return year involved a solar tax credit so I was thinking the same thing as that.
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Sagebrush posted:I'd have to imagine this means "we're not going to literally put it in a separate bank account, but we still are going to consider it a $115M liability on our books", not "lol we're spending the money and it's gone." I think a sixth-grader could figure out why you shouldn't spend money that you might have to pay back in its entirety at any time. Actually Tesla is known for engaging in some shady financial shenanigans
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OldPueblo posted:I'll have to go back and check my previous years taxes to be sure I can leverage that full tax credit. Maybe I'll adjust my withholding a bit in 2017 (2018?) to owe a little more if necessary. Thanks for that pro-tip, I was totally in the ignorant camp of "thought I was getting some kind of check". My record tax return year involved a solar tax credit so I was thinking the same thing as that. Adjusting your withholding won't change your tax liability.
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Model S vs a 737: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFtJR5yhutU (Mad Max 1 was filmed (in part) right beside that airport)
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drunkill posted:Model S vs a 737: e: some good info here on the ventilation (one single slot across the whole dash it looks like) and other things on the 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbDG1_AvN9c El Grillo fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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Video of the Model 3's trunk being opened around 3:25 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16SWVS56aZU
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Ola posted:Some interesting tweets. There's also this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/716729420078133248 A lot of people commented that the steering wheel looked cheap, so I guess it makes sense now to learn it was basically just a placeholder. Makes you wonder what's gonna be so great about the real thing, though. Maybe virtual gauges integrated into the steering wheel somehow?
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Yeah I figured they must be going to announce more about their vision for the thing in order to explain the lack of dash. If there's actually a whole different steering solution etc. then that will be interesting. I'd actually totally forgotten he said this was just 'part 1' of the reveal.
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AWD option confirmed. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/716745282394976257 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/716745898202685441
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Cawd Rud posted:Video of the Model 3's trunk being opened around 3:25 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16SWVS56aZU Yeah, I'm definitely going to have to wait for the crossover version unless we see some big changes. What's dumb is that from a distance, the car looks like it was meant to be a hatchback, but someone decided that the one piece glass roof was more important than respectable cargo capability.
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Yeah, that seems like an odd design choice.
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There was a Musk tweet on this point too. He said it was because they moved the front seats forward, a supporting pillar had to move too, which made a hatch impossible on the M3. I'm probably garbling his explanation but it was something like that. Presumably Model Y is the CUV built on the M3 base, so will address this market. But you might be waiting a while.
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Any speculation on when Part 2 of the reveal will be?I don't like waiting 
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I just helped someone move a 60" tv in a tiny 2 door hatchback and man that 3 trunk looks flat out retarded after doing that.
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OldSenileGuy posted:A lot of people commented that the steering wheel looked cheap, so I guess it makes sense now to learn it was basically just a placeholder. Makes you wonder what's gonna be so great about the real thing, though. Maybe virtual gauges integrated into the steering wheel somehow? Projected images on the dash space? Would be tricky to get the perspective right for all size drivers and seat positions.
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Michael Scott posted:Any speculation on when Part 2 of the reveal will be?I don't like waiting msny months
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blugu64 posted:"Lifetime free supercharging" "Acceptable Usage Policy applies" E:F;B
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kimbo305 posted:Projected images on the dash space? Would be tricky to get the perspective right for all size drivers and seat positions. Eh, projecting that info on the bottom of the windshield is the new hotness and not nearly that hard to get right enough.
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duz posted:Eh, projecting that info on the bottom of the windshield is the new hotness and not nearly that hard to get right enough. If they projected a GPS map onto the dash over the driver, that would be an awesome gimmick.
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All cars come with Glass/Hololens style headsets with all the pertinent information overlaid in your vision.
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Pryor on Fire posted:I just helped someone move a 60" tv in a tiny 2 door hatchback and man that 3 trunk looks flat out retarded after doing that. You're supposed to stick the 60" tv to the dashboard with bluetack or whatever, like they did.
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El Grillo posted:That is ridiculous. It's a neat video, but it's not really an impressive demonstration.
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Godholio posted:You're supposed to stick the 60" tv to the dashboard with bluetack or whatever, like they did. The EV/OLED anticipation / speculation / discussion electrothread.
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D C posted:All cars come with Glass/Hololens style headsets with all the pertinent information overlaid in your vision. And like the AR headset in the F35, it gives you motion sickness due to lag, is so bulky you can't turn your head, and is so heavy it gives you whiplash.
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Internet Explorer posted:Yeah, that seems like an odd design choice. Every Tesla has had a stupid design gimmick that has needlessly complicated production and not created any benefits for the end user of the car. Model S: Retarded door handles Model X: Retarded door design Model 3: Retarded roof design
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kimbo305 posted:Projected images on the dash space? Would be tricky to get the perspective right for all size drivers and seat positions. HUDs have been a thing since the 90s. It isn't actually that hard to make one work; just usually need a dial to adjust the projection angle to match driver height. Might not even be a HUD; the interior could be radically different than what was in part 1 with part 2 covering the finalized interior. I'm still having fun posting the pic of no speedometer and no air conditioning for my friends who ordered a 3 though.
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The cost of the extras like auto pilot, super charger port, onboard charger options, AC and speedometers is going to be hilarious. The melt downs are going to be glorious. When does official pricing get released?
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"Model S: Retarded door handles" Bu..but I like those handles 
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fordan posted:HUDs have been a thing since the 90s. It isn't actually that hard to make one work; just usually need a dial to adjust the projection angle to match driver height. I've had cars with it, and it's not perfect, even with adjustment. If you're trying to use the whole plastic dash as a screen instead of just the glass, there's more problems to solve, chiefly how much more warped the dash is, but also how to get enough reflected light without using a high power projector.
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