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Eonwe posted:my coworkers all hate goons and they have been especially smug, so I would like to see you guys kick their poo poo in I have one coworker that plays, hates goons, but also thinks TEST and co are really fuckin' annoying and seems to think that they'll get their poo poo pushed immediately after goons are done. I want goons to win, but that's a fair consolation prize if it does happen.
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Eonwe posted:can you guys explain why the other factions couldn't hold your territory Low ADMS make space hard to hold. Unless PL and NC choose to just loiter for years we can generally curbstomp any 3 parties in this war.
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My Hordeling mentee tackled his first bad guy yesterday 
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lol sometimes being on the outside and coming back after years to hear about this retarded drama is the best way to play eve. Blacklisting a guy for something he did in Archeage 
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Alunan posted:Live coverage from the Fade-Deklein border tonight. This would have been better propaganda if you had labeled the little boy "SMA".  Endie posted:Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow; This is why I miss your war updates.  ChickenWing posted:Of the total number of dudes in our coalition, only X% will show up for any given fight because that's just how nerds work - people are in different timezones, there's alts, there's people who don't feel like playing right now, there's people who only log in to update their skillqueue, there's super pilots, et cetera. I guess what I'm saying is, that in order to outblob your opponents you do two things: 1. Have a larger base (Allies ~50K, Imperium ~30K) 2. Have a larger multiple of that base show up (Allies ~6.0% for major objectives, Imperium around 5.6% for the same) The Allies have an advantage in both right now, but a small shift in #2 can change the game very quickly. Fake edit: I pulled the numbers above from an earlier post ITT, so treat them as reliably as you will. Drythe posted:Why has lowtax not sent you a thank you letter yet He's a cheap bastard and postage rates just went up.
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thank you pm then
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kiresays posted:My Hordeling mentee tackled his first bad guy yesterday  Ice Fist posted:lol sometimes being on the outside and coming back after years to hear about this retarded drama is the best way to play eve. Yeah. It was pretty dumb.
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Also for the record, I've met boat and he was chill irl, but I wouldn't put enacting a space vendetta past him at all.
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Deki posted:I have one coworker that plays, hates goons, but also thinks TEST and co are really fuckin' annoying and seems to think that they'll get their poo poo pushed immediately after goons are done. Won't PL just swap from shooting goons to shooting TEST if this ends with goons losing? I don't see PL giving up shooting nerds for basically anything.
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Eonwe posted:can you guys explain why the other factions couldn't hold your territory Right now, the new sov mechanics strongggggly favor the attackers when they are going up against coalitions that own vast swathes of space like we do. Mostly this is due to that "ADM rating" that you've probably seen mentioned a few times. Without getting into details, ADM rating is quite simply a measure of how much a space is used. It goes up when players rat, mine, or simply hold the system for a period of time. The higher the ADM, the harder it is for an attacker to flip a system. The problem Imperium faces is that we have a lot of space that is not fully occupied or used, thus there are a lot of systems out there with very low ADM. As a result, there is a lot of low-hanging fruit out there for attackers to harass and flip, which means its a ton of busywork for defenders to be bouncing all over the map to try and contest attackers who only need very short time windows to flip a system. So to answer your question, why couldn't TEST or others hold our space assuming they conquer it? A few key reasons: -Probably the biggest reason is that MBC has stated multiple times that they are only temporarily blue to each other while they crusade against goons. They have said that as soon as the Imperium is ousted (lol) that they will reset each other and go back to shooting each other. If they do this, then they stand no chance at holding all of the space we currently hold, because we are having trouble doing that even now with the coalition we have. Trying to do that without blueing everyone around you would be a hilarious exercise in futility. They might be able to concentrate and fortify ADMs in part of Vale or something, but taking and hold all of Deklein and Pure Blind without a coalition? Good loving luck. -TEST and other groups do not have SRP. In the long-run, their wallets will wear down and their fleet numbers will decrease. The Imperium is fabulously wealthy and can sustain long war efforts like no other entity in the game. Crushing the will of others via a long war of attrition that eventually wears them down where we march on has been the name of our game for the past decade. Unless TEST changes their culture from "lolbertarian bootstraps!" to a similar socialist SRP program to match our game, they simply will lose in the long run (as they have in the past.)
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Who even let that poo poo through? "Oh you want me to blacklist someone for poo poo in another game? No that's loving stupid" is how that should have went.
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Drythe posted:I think you could get unblacklisted if you wanted. #freekimsemus2016
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SperginMcBadposter posted:Who even let that poo poo through? "Oh you want me to blacklist someone for poo poo in another game? No that's loving stupid" is how that should have went. the directors that were aggrieved, one of them being a spymaster one of them being ~a hero of the swarm~
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I really want someone we hate to end up in Vale/Tribute with a stable enough footing that they start to try to use the space.
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Siets posted:-TEST and other groups do not have SRP. In the long-run, their wallets will wear down and their fleet numbers will decrease. The Imperium is fabulously wealthy and can sustain long war efforts like no other entity in the game. Crushing the will of others via a long war of attrition that eventually wears them down where we march on has been the name of our game for the past decade. Unless TEST changes their culture from "lolbertarian bootstraps!" to a similar socialist SRP program to match our game, they simply will lose in the long run (as they have in the past.) lol reddit nerds being crushed by their own stupid libertarianism would be amazing also agreed that goons have an endurance for war that is completely unmatched, and it's why they've won every war in the long run - a war of attrition in a world of infinite resources means that the only way to win is to make your opponent want to stop fighting
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Won't PL just swap from shooting goons to shooting TEST if this ends with goons losing? I don't see PL giving up shooting nerds for basically anything. Yeah basically. We tend to go wherever we figure we can get the most entertainment. With Citadels I have no clue where that will be, but it will be a lot of fun destroying a 250 billion ISK autism tower. FruitNYogurtParfait posted:the directors that were aggrieved, one of them being a spymaster one of them being ~a hero of the swarm~ ENDIEEEEEEE 
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Siets posted:Right now, the new sov mechanics strongggggly favor the attackers when they are going up against coalitions that own vast swathes of space like we do. This is an excellent explanation thank you
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Unfunny Poster posted:Yeah basically. We tend to go wherever we figure we can get the most entertainment. With Citadels I have no clue where that will be, but it will be a lot of fun destroying a 250 billion ISK autism tower. I think 'Autism Palace' is more fitting for XLs. Also aren't those 700bil for the hull itself?
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Unfunny Poster posted:Yeah basically. We tend to go wherever we figure we can get the most entertainment. With Citadels I have no clue where that will be, but it will be a lot of fun destroying a 250 billion ISK autism tower. i said spymaster not spinmaster you dumbdumb!!
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Reverand maynard posted:You can target Russians, just look for the words "wtb Nyx 21kkk" The master speaks. Edit: I guess when my phone says it'll need to resubmit the form to refresh then it means it.
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SperginMcBadposter posted:I think 'Autism Palace' is more fitting for XLs. Also aren't those 700bil for the hull itself? I thought XL's were going to be 250 billion? Regardless I was referring to them when I said "autism palace" and how much fun that'll be to destroy. I really don't think PL will make one, unless it's in like Amamake. FruitNYogurtParfait posted:i said spymaster not spinmaster you dumbdumb!! I can't keep up with who is who in this thread. 
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Eonwe posted:can you guys explain why the other factions couldn't hold your territory You actually have to use your space to keep ADMs (active defense multipliers) high, afaik every ADM level adds an additional 10 minutes to the capture timer. This means the 'Good Guys' would have to rat, mine and use their space instead of just setting up a shanty town and waiting to see what the CFC/Imperium reaction will be. Honestly, I think it's pretty foolhardy to think that the invaders are looking to setup a permanent shop there, and instead they will just install groups that always wanted space, but couldn't take it or just let the people that want it move in. Honestly, a nullsec full of random groups of people all fighting their little tribal wars is a lot more fun than one coalition owning 'the galactic north'. Maybe this shake up will be the kick in the rear end CCP needs to 'fix' otherwise underwhelming nullsec income. The worst case scenario and the best case scenario both involve Goons losing all their space. Siets posted:-TEST and other groups do not have SRP. In the long-run, their wallets will wear down and their fleet numbers will decrease. The Imperium is fabulously wealthy and can sustain long war efforts like no other entity in the game. Crushing the will of others via a long war of attrition that eventually wears them down where we march on has been the name of our game for the past decade. Unless TEST changes their culture from "lolbertarian bootstraps!" to a similar socialist SRP program to match our game, they simply will lose in the long run (as they have in the past.) I don't expect many of you to agree with me on this- but honestly, flying in groups without SRP makes people gently caress up less and overall contributes to a better EVE experience. That being said, groups have lived and thrived for years without it, so it's not like some big Achilles heel everyone tries to make it out to be. Xolve fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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Unfunny Poster posted:Yeah basically. We tend to go wherever we figure we can get the most entertainment. With Citadels I have no clue where that will be, but it will be a lot of fun destroying a 250 billion ISK autism tower. I pretty much see you guys being the first to pop one of those and look forward to the eve-o/reddit whining about loot recovery and citadel defenses from the recently displaced.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Fozziesov really does sound like the worst thing It is and it isn't. Like everything, pros and cons. Pros: -Game is all about subcaps now, which is way more fun than invincible bullshit supercaps online escalations of which only elite-skilled members get to participate in. -Mechanics lends to a reduction of sov for large entities that don't use their space. This means more space for new blood to move into after a conflict. Cons: -It is a little too easy to troll sov right now with very small ships that can simply run away if defenders coming hunting for them. Benny Hill doesn't even begin to describe what this is like in-game right now, and it's why we've moved to an interceptor headshot doctrine to deal with it. -As in the pros section, mechanics lends to a reduction of sov for large entities that don't use their space. This means less wealth for large coalitions as they lose control over their territory. Eonwe posted:This is an excellent explanation thank you yw bud 
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:it was in another game entirely so it shouldn't matter if he shattered the whole goon guild :thepoint:
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Richard Bong posted:I pretty much see you guys being the first to pop one of those and look forward to the eve-o/reddit whining about loot recovery and citadel defenses from the recently displaced. Man, do you know how great some of the SMA tears we've gotten are? There's a thread on EVE-O atm complaining about I-Hubs costing 800mil or so and begging CCP to lower the price. I can't wait for the Citadel price complaint threads 
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Dr. Pangloss posted::thepoint: that was my point, before you had a chance to chime in come at me pangloss ill fite u
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Richard Bong posted:I pretty much see you guys being the first to pop one of those and look forward to the eve-o/reddit whining about loot recovery and citadel defenses from the recently displaced. I personally hope the first citadel gets popped and some weird 'the logs show nothing' poo poo happens and they actually lose all their poo poo. It's been a while since EVE players have experienced actual loss that mattered.
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Reverand maynard posted:I've been screaming into the void about staging everyone in a lvl 5 mission hub in lowsec and keeping 1-3 regions for ratting and then whatever r64s we can hold on the fringes. gently caress entosis bullshit, gently caress stations. Plop down a max of 5 citadels with thè sole purpose of docking your ratting Ishtar/procurer You got experience with a good lvl 5 hub? That's a great idea btw, it's like a system with unlimited anoms, but sucks to be the new dude or the dude with lovely standing. Edit: BTW we struggling getting more than 100 dudes in 1 inty fleet, what's your favourite ice cream flavour?
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Siets posted:-TEST and other groups do not have SRP. In the long-run, their wallets will wear down and their fleet numbers will decrease. The Imperium is fabulously wealthy and can sustain long war efforts like no other entity in the game. Crushing the will of others via a long war of attrition that eventually wears them down where we march on has been the name of our game for the past decade. Unless TEST changes their culture from "lolbertarian bootstraps!" to a similar socialist SRP program to match our game, they simply will lose in the long run (as they have in the past.) This is a really good paragraph. Except Test has always had SRP.
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I like this version of the EVE thread So happy and full of life
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Eonwe posted:I like this version of the EVE thread You bring out the best in all of us Eonwe. You should head up the next EVE thread.
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Glory of Arioch posted:if you've got the skills and the patience for it, production is going to poo poo loving isk for months because of the war Please build interceptors and stealth bombers.
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rob3r posted:This is a really good paragraph. Except Test has always had SRP. Indeed, TEST can't be faulted for its SRP program and general attitude towards its new players. It was the privatization of its money moons under noted trustable individual Baki that had the earmarks of lolbertarian silliness.
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Nietzschean posted:Please build interceptors and stealth bombers.
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Unfunny Poster posted:You bring out the best in all of us Eonwe. You should head up the next EVE thread. I think this war was good for the thread
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Nietzschean posted:Please build interceptors and stealth bombers. way ahead of you
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Eonwe posted:I think this war was good for the thread lotta mad dudes coming in telling everyone how hard goonfleet gettin owned makes me want to disagree with you
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