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Along with everything else that is obviously wrong with the shootsploitation movie linked above, it forwards the inaccurate narrative that the Columbine shooters were poor, victimized targets of bullying. In fact, they were psychopathic bullies themselves. And the whole "girl gets shot after saying she believes in God" bit never happened, either. One must really stand in awe of how readily we can appropriate any tragedy as a piece of backstory to whatever narrative we prefer. To wit: TapTheForwardAssist posted:As a 2-minute summation of what's wrong with this fairy tale: Yes. What I've noticed about the Fox News demo is that they never talked obsessively about how We've Always Been At War With Oceania before. My guess: 9/11 shattered the worldviews of a generation or three who grew up with America as the dominant superpower in the world; the collapse of the USSR served to confirm our status as the victorious protagonist on the world stage. But then, some unknown organization from a country nobody could point to on a map comes along-- (how many can find it even now?) It isn't just that we were attacked that shook us up. (War of 1812 and Pearl Harbor set the precedent- there was room in the narrative for an Act I Inciting Incident.) But those incidents involved a.) Britain at the hight of their power and b.) Imperial Japan, the most feared superpower in the Pacific at the time. All of America's enemies are powerful, nobody less dares mess with us. But now suddenly we need to start familiarizing ourselves with weird Arabic names (al-kay-what??) AND open ourselves to the worldview that there are huge parts of the world where White and Christian means nothing. So, in order to revise their understanding of the world to allow for this, they need to reinterpret every major event in American history such that the hated Muslims have always been our archnemesis, causing endless damage even to the great powers of centuries past. That way, 9/11 isn't a surprise attack out of the blue, it becomes the logical boiling over point in an ongoing battle between us and the bad guys who've been dogging us since day 1. Ergo, 18th century barbary pirates and modern IS fighters are indistinguishable iterations of the same entity. Lemma fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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Lemma posted:That way, 9/11 isn't a surprise attack out of the blue, it becomes the logical boiling over point in an ongoing battle between us and the bad guys who've been dogging us since day 1. Doesn't that mean that ARE (intelligence) TROOPS shouldn't have been so surprised by the attack and ill-prepared to prosecute the war against the responsible parties? That doesn't sound very patriotic, son.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Cue a long-running string of similar dumbassery, neighbors calling CPS, undiagnosed learning disorders, and five kids because she and her husband refuse to use birth control. I just want to shake her and say "you have a drat M.A. and are clearly brilliant, and you had a grand old time running around playing Masquerade and getting gangbanged by goth guys until you got married at 25, so can you drop the pretenses?" There are only 2 avenues for VtM goths in my experience once they hit 30: Pagan spirituality or complete fundie.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Nothing wrong with getting kids to grow carrots or other easy foods. Not everything needs to be job training. We had a tomato plant on our balcony when I was a kid, and my mom told me to go pick the tomatoes and we'd have them for lunch, but my chubby little kid fingers fumbled it and one of the little baby tomatoes fell off the balcony, never to be seen again. I still weep for that tomato.
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Rick_Hunter posted:99% of the time someone is named Freeman it's a Crispin McDougal Freeman is downright pasty, and to the best of my knowledge he's not a sovereign citizen.
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seiferguy posted:Oh here's a real piece of crap from a horrible person too:
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Guilty Spork posted:"I literally have no idea whatsoever what gender studies involves, how many people take it as their major, or what their career prospects are like in real life. But the name sounds icky to me so I'm going to mock the idea any time I get the chance." It simultaneously amuses and depresses me that so many people just automatically assume every woman going to college studies gender studies to the exclusion of absolutely everything else. While failing to realize that gender studies is also working on getting the sexism out of STEM. Which is, you know, one of the major reasons those careers are very very male.
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Guilty Spork posted:"I literally have no idea whatsoever what gender studies involves, how many people take it as their major, or what their career prospects are like in real life. But the name sounds icky to me so I'm going to mock the idea any time I get the chance." The worst part about that being she has a PhD in philosophy, so she very likely DOES know what gender studies is, she just chooses to misrepresent it to the right-wing anti-feminist manbaby crowd in order to score speaking engagements and book deals. Christina Hoff-Sommers is a sad, broken woman. I can't actually feel angry for her, I just pity her.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It simultaneously amuses and depresses me that so many people just automatically assume every woman going to college studies gender studies to the exclusion of absolutely everything else. While failing to realize that gender studies is also working on getting the sexism out of STEM. Which is, you know, one of the major reasons those careers are very very male. It also seems like that would be good preparation for sociological studies and data analysis in general.
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Hermetic posted:The worst part about that being she has a PhD in philosophy, so she very likely DOES know what gender studies is, she just chooses to misrepresent it to the right-wing anti-feminist manbaby crowd in order to score speaking engagements and book deals. This isn't quite the same thing, but I don't get why Bill Maher talks about Islam like he does. It just gets scooped up by the right wing and he doesn't seem to mind. They just go "look, even this liberal agrees that Islam is a threat!" It's not like he profits from it (that I know of at least).
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Hermetic posted:The worst part about that being she has a PhD in philosophy, so she very likely DOES know what gender studies is, she just chooses to misrepresent it to the right-wing anti-feminist manbaby crowd in order to score speaking engagements and book deals. She's also recently given everyone a(nother) good look at why women shouldn't pander to the alt-right. Because despite being their 'Based Mom' for ages, all it took was her standing up for Melissa Fields and she got disowned as 'just another FEMALE who plays identity politics'.
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There was a link to "Broken Fences - Full Movie" on that Columbine trailer. Is this supposed to be the Christian Brokeback Mountain?
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:This isn't quite the same thing, but I don't get why Bill Maher talks about Islam like he does. It just gets scooped up by the right wing and he doesn't seem to mind. They just go "look, even this liberal agrees that Islam is a threat!" It's not like he profits from it (that I know of at least). Nah, there's a pretty good market for liberals who trash Democrats on various news shows. Bill can walk the "centrist" line and get attention that way. It is weird, though, how he went from "all religions are stupid" to "this one is especially bad." Back in the 90's, he was riding the "spiritual not religious" train, saying he totally believed in God, just didn't want to be involved with religion. At this point, I doubt he really thinks much about it and just says whatever pops into his head.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:This isn't quite the same thing, but I don't get why Bill Maher talks about Islam like he does. It just gets scooped up by the right wing and he doesn't seem to mind. They just go "look, even this liberal agrees that Islam is a threat!" It's not like he profits from it (that I know of at least). He's an anti religious zealot. You may as well ask why Mel Gibson talks about Jews if he doesn't profit from it.
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Klaus88 posted:I'm torn between disappointed and pleased at the lack of half-life jokes on this page. Don't forget to reload (the thread), Klaus88!
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:There was a link to "Broken Fences - Full Movie" on that Columbine trailer. Is this supposed to be the Christian Brokeback Mountain? It looks to be a movie about a father and his parolee son. Doesn't explain the very obvious boner that the image implies.
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Jurgan posted:It also seems like that would be good preparation for sociological studies and data analysis in general. It depends on your program, as is the case with a lot of sociological fields. I have a degree in WGS and it really focused primarily on like, preparing students to be social workers rather than spending a lot of time on the more sociological/scientific parts of the field. But even then it changes heavily from course to course - I'd have 200-level ones which felt very "academic" and 300-level ones that were a lot less so (one in particular literally met in the school garden and was basically 8 of us sitting in a circle and talking about how our weeks were, though that professor was let go the next semester to be fair). Sometimes we'd spend lots of time with really meaty theory or literature, history or modern, but other times you'd have a class where over half of it was people sharing borderline nonsequiter stories from their childhood (or "friend of a friend on facebook"???) because the professor didn't want to stop letting people share even if we've gotten completely off topic. I mean don't get me wrong, it got me into a masters program for sociology - I was told my undergrad degree made me stick out, and I did a lot of independent study in the field - and I wouldn't trade my experiences in the field if asked, but if I didn't plan on going onto graduate school or to work at one of the local women's shelters it'd probably have been rough for me after graduating.
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Klaus88 posted:I'm torn between disappointed and pleased at the lack of half-life jokes on this page. The wrong joke on the right page can make all the diff-er-ence in the world. Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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MasterSlowPoke posted:It looks to be a movie about a father and his parolee son. Doesn't explain the very obvious boner that the image implies. That made me scroll back up and yeah, dad's got a fence post boner and son's got a flaccid shadow.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:She's also recently given everyone a(nother) good look at why women shouldn't pander to the alt-right. Because despite being their 'Based Mom' for ages, all it took was her standing up for Melissa Fields and she got disowned as 'just another FEMALE who plays identity politics'. The goobergate/MRA crowd finally turned on Hoff-Sommers?! Oh man, I have the biggest schadenfreude boner right now. PLEASE tell me there's a blog or a website or a storify or something where someone saved the juiciest bits of the narrative...
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:There was a link to "Broken Fences - Full Movie" on that Columbine trailer. Is this supposed to be the Christian Brokeback Mountain? Winner! Winner! Winner!
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Hermetic posted:There are only 2 avenues for VtM goths in my experience once they hit 30: Pagan spirituality or complete fundie. Too few dots in critical thought. Bonus joke: They didn't have it as a clan discipline.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Too few dots in critical thought. That's what they get for making mental their tertiary attribute set.
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Coffee And Pie posted:Winner! Winner! Winner! Most film! Very award!
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Hermetic posted:The goobergate/MRA crowd finally turned on Hoff-Sommers?! Oh man, I have the biggest schadenfreude boner right now. PLEASE tell me there's a blog or a website or a storify or something where someone saved the juiciest bits of the narrative... http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/03/31/anime-nazis-turn-on-christina-hoff-sommers-after-she-stands-up-for-assaulted-reporter/
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Lemma posted:So, in order to revise their understanding of the world to allow for this, they need to reinterpret every major event in American history such that the hated Muslims have always been our archnemesis, causing endless damage even to the great powers of centuries past. That way, 9/11 isn't a surprise attack out of the blue, it becomes the logical boiling over point in an ongoing battle between us and the bad guys who've been dogging us since day 1. Ergo, 18th century barbary pirates and modern IS fighters are indistinguishable iterations of the same entity. It also helps them ignore the fact that Al-Qaeda was financially supported and assisted by the US during the Carter and Reagan administrations, as they were viewed to be a great ally in fighting against the commie Russians.
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Quick question - What happened to Liberal Logic? I don't follow this tread super close. Why did it change from the LL dump to the pissed off whoevers?
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aricoarena posted:Quick question - What happened to Liberal Logic? I don't follow this tread super close. Why did it change from the LL dump to the pissed off whoevers? The poster responsible for LL got so depressed he couldn't standing doing the dumps anymore.
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LL also started becoming full of news reposts and less crazy macros.
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Klaus88 posted:The poster responsible for LL got so depressed he couldn't standing doing the dumps anymore. Unfortunately, too much exposure to LL bumped up his LL Mythos rating too much, and a few too many failed madness rolls later... The moral of the story is, always burn right-wing Facebook shares without reading them.
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I mean if you read too many of them you will presumably get sucked into the dreamlands along with the authors.
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I read all of them and now I want to Combat Liberalism.
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EPORW is the new LL
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Is there an Old One representing All-Consuming Rage? You could make a Lovecraftian story where cultists spread these rightwing memes to generate rage for the rage god.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Is there an Old One representing All-Consuming Rage? You could make a Lovecraftian story where cultists spread these rightwing memes to generate rage for the rage god. Old Ones are a bad comparison because they don't have emotions like we do. None of them feel rage like we think of it because none of them care enough. Azathoth maybe but that is described as an unintelligent blob that just destroys everything near it. ToxicSlurpee fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Apr 5, 2016 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Azathoth maybe nut that is described as an unintelligent blob that just destroys everything near it. Sounds like a tea partier.
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OwlFancier posted:Sounds like a tea partier. No, Azathoth is capable of moving unassisted and is actually competent at something.
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