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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Keeshhound posted:

Even Martin Sheen's quite excellent voice acting wasn't enough to really salvage TIM. He's a dumpster fire of a character, only made worse by the fact that some one on the writing staff clearly thought he was the coolest part of the series.

He is an ok character. He could have had more depth and stuff, and his ending sucks. but over all i like him as a villain.

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Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Dapper_Swindler posted:

He is an ok character. He could have had more depth and stuff, and his ending sucks. but over all i like him as a villain.

I didn't play 3, so maybe he's better in that, but 2 never does anything but sing his praises which pretty well poisoned that well for me.

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Keeshhound posted:

I didn't play 3, so maybe he's better in that, but 2 never does anything but sing his praises which pretty well poisoned that well for me.

IIRC, at the end of 2 you have the option of pretty unambiguously telling him to get hosed it's presented as the "gently caress yeah Shepard don't take no poo poo from no one" ending for awesome people with good RPG opinions.

Morroque
Mar 6, 2013
My understanding of Mass Effect as a Canadian-developed game was that The Illusive Man was this weird allegory for Steven Harper. I'm not sure if I just imagined that or if that was the intention but the writers didn't really know where to go with it. TIM's birth name is supposedly Jack Harper, so...

I'd imagine Trump doesn't play video games, (nor would any presidential candidate right now,) so it wouldn't surprise me if the upper brass of campaign would've known they were stealing from Mass Effect. The problem would lie on the fault of the producers, who would've known and charged campaign money for.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Morroque posted:

My understanding of Mass Effect as a Canadian-developed game was that The Illusive Man was this weird allegory for Steven Harper. I'm not sure if I just imagined that or if that was the intention but the writers didn't really know where to go with it. TIM's birth name is supposedly Jack Harper, so...

I'd imagine Trump doesn't play video games, (nor would any presidential candidate right now,) so it wouldn't surprise me if the upper brass of campaign would've known they were stealing from Mass Effect. The problem would lie on the fault of the producers, who would've known and charged campaign money for.

A sanctimonious corporate authoritarian patriarch, with delusions of Republican neocon-ism? Sounds right to me. :canada:

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Cythereal posted:

And he's mind-controlled by an ancient AI that's decided the only way to save life in the galaxy is to destroy and enslave it. It fits, really.

The complete gibberish that was the end of ME3 sounds like the level of logic we get from right wing media already, so I guess it fits. Both inspire about the same level of rage to me.


Keeshhound posted:

Even Martin Sheen's quite excellent voice acting wasn't enough to really salvage TIM. He's a dumpster fire of a character, only made worse by the fact that some one on the writing staff clearly thought he was the coolest part of the series.

I liked TIM as a character well enough. I just think that ME3 got lazy with him by suddenly giving him the ability to field an army that could wage war on the entire galaxy with all the depth and competence of GI Joe villains, but ME3 had so many writing problems that we'd be here all day listing them.

EDIT: Just read the description of the ad. Apparently it barrels into comical amounts of racism by essentially claiming that BLM protests are essentially the same as invading aliens and, hilariously, uses the violence of his own rallies as more evidence that all (white) humanity is under attack. If it were anybody else, I'd say it was just a troll video added to mock him, but I can see this from Trump.

Geostomp fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Apr 5, 2016

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Hulk Krogan posted:

IIRC, at the end of 2 you have the option of pretty unambiguously telling him to get hosed it's presented as the "gently caress yeah Shepard don't take no poo poo from no one" ending for awesome people with good RPG opinions.

I could write any number of words about Mass Effect 2, but this absolutely isn't the place for it and we've had too many derails already.

Suffice it to say, the use of that particular character is hilariously fitting, albeit not in the way it was intended, which just makes it funnier. :allears:

Keeshhound fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Apr 5, 2016

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Milo's whole schtick about feminism/SJWs is about appealing to people who focus with laser like intensity on the places that they don't have power in society to the point of ignoring the places that they do, so getting pissed off about SJWs being sex-deniers makes sense

lowercase16
Apr 19, 2008

Cyclops actually has two eyes.

Bushiz posted:

Milo is a cipher for all the loveless computer janitors who think the reason they squeaked out of school with a 2.3 GPA is because no one ever bothered to engage them, rather than their own mediocrity and lack of drive.

He's just there to reinforce their worldview, the same way that Rush Limbaugh is, except for the Elliott Rodger's of the world. The reason you don't have a qt gf is because women are controlled by sex negative feminist sjws, the reason the girl you've been crushing on dated someone else is because women are stupid whores who fall for Chad's to get hosed, everyone who doesn't understand this is ignorant of their girlfriend getting hosed by a big dicked black dude.

It's just a reassuring voice telling them it's not their fault that they're working in a call center for hostgator for 11 an hour, and not as an engineer at google pulling down high six figures.

Man, this hits way too close to home for me. I should be counting my lucky stars that I didn't turn into that particular type of shithead.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

lowercase16 posted:

Man, this hits way too close to home for me. I should be counting my lucky stars that I didn't turn into that particular type of shithead.

Yeah, of course, there but for the grace of whatever you want to thank go we...

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

I'm very proud my right wing father is creeped out by Glenn Beck and Ted Cruz's messiah complexes.

"I don't know what the hell happened to Glenn Beck. He must have almost died or something. He used to be a really fun listen on the radio pre-Obama...now he's picking Cruz as some sort of Messiah figure. What the hell?"

A small victory was had!

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
This is not political, but it does come from self-described "kickass reporter" Geraldo Rivera.

https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/717197359910940673

I mean, everything he said is true in a kind of way. :v:

Chuu
Sep 11, 2004

Grimey Drawer

BigRed0427 posted:

And all I can think is "What the gently caress are you talking about?" Seriously, is he trying to say feminists who hate sex are secretly perverts?

About as logical as people joke that all of the super-homophobic conservative mouthpieces are secretly gay.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

See, now that's what actual Poe's Law is. When you can't tell the difference between someone who disagrees with you and a parody of someone who disagrees with you written by someone who agrees with you, that's probably just your own lovely lack of empathy. When the fanatics welcome a parody in as one of their own, it's the real deal.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

You poor baby



Background

quote:

This morning, April 5, Paypal, a global company dedicated to facilitating online payments, announced that it is withdrawing plans to open a new global operations center in Charlotte. The reason for their plans to withdraw? North Carolina’s House Bill 2, which was ramrodded through the North Carolina General Assembly on March 23, with just 12 hours from introduction to Governor Pat McCrory’s signature. The law knocks down municipalities’ ability to enact local ordinances protecting LGBT North Carolinians from discrimination and then codifies anti-transgender policies into state law and has seen enormous blowback over the past few weeks.

Secret Agent X23
May 11, 2005

Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore.
I'm willing to bet that if I did business with companies only if I could be certain they agreed with all my political/religious/social opinions, I'd end up like Ted Kaczynski.

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

You poor baby



Background

I would say "I wonder if he was similarly bothered by Chik Fil A" but haha come on.

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.

Leofish posted:

This is not political, but it does come from self-described "kickass reporter" Geraldo Rivera.

https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/717197359910940673

I mean, everything he said is true in a kind of way. :v:

And it's gone already.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
A free business makes a free business decision because they have all the moneys and can do whatever the gently caress they want.

Radical leftism.

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Moktaro posted:

And it's gone already.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

A tad obsessed


Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
Crying baby.jpg

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx

Mister Macys posted:

Crying baby.jpg

He's very thin-skinned, and seems to think he's entitled to have everyone indulge his views on gender.

Perhaps he needs a safe space to hang out in?

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Do they have a good reply for the trans people who are convincing as all hell? Because it seems to me if a trans man doesn't give a gently caress he'll just go into the women's bathroom head held high and cause the exact problem (sans molestation panic) they were trying to avoid.

This is a fairly superficial take, but the basic question came from that tweet of a trans man asking.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Hulk Krogan posted:

I would say "I wonder if he was similarly bothered by Chik Fil A" but haha come on.

Wait, what? I thought they were still shoveling money towards bigot campaign funds and stuff and just not talking about it publicly anymore.

Vitalis Jackson
May 14, 2009

Sun and water are healthy for you -- but not for your hair!
Fun Shoe

Aesop Poprock posted:

It's seriously going to end up being the best case scenario for Democrats in a really long time election wise. They have so much poo poo on Trump and Cruz, both of whom are extremely polarizing even in their own political group to an extent that Bernie and Clinton can't even remotely touch. The only worry would really be that Bernie wouldn't be able to bring the heat enough on either of them but since Clinton is for sure going to be the Democratic candidate that's not really a concern.

Don't be so certain about this. If the general election is a campaign between Clinton and Trump, Trump may easily win. And win big, because Hillary has nearly as many people despising her as Trump does. And Trump has a populist/nationalist message, whereas Clinton is a neocon with no real message at all. I think Trump may trounce Clinton in a general election.

And I say this as a democratic socialist progressive.

Love,
Vitalis

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Vitalis Jackson posted:

Trump may easily win. And win big

The Arzy is strong with this one.

Draw me an electoral map where Donald "Woman need to be punished for abortions" Trump wins 270 votes. I dare you. Then we will laugh at it.

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Elephant Ambush posted:

Wait, what? I thought they were still shoveling money towards bigot campaign funds and stuff and just not talking about it publicly anymore.

They are, AFAIK. Point was that Walsh sees businesses deciding not to spend money in a particular place as some kind of egregious affront to his personal freedoms but supported Chik Fil A when people slammed them for donating money to anti-LGBT rights groups.

Vitalis Jackson
May 14, 2009

Sun and water are healthy for you -- but not for your hair!
Fun Shoe

WampaLord posted:

The Arzy is strong with this one.

Draw me an electoral map where Donald "Woman need to be punished for abortions" Trump wins 270 votes. I dare you. Then we will laugh at it.

In general I'm looking at the large number of registered independents. That's the elephant in the room, if you'll pardon the pun. Republicans are 26% and Democrats are 32% according to the most recent Gallop poll, whereas Independents are at 38%. I think the general election will be determined by (1) political independents obviously; party voters in general may not be enthusiastic about either candidate, and (2) highly motivated (e.g., anti-establishment and angry) voters.

Keep in mind that the largest voter cohort--Independents--are probably registered as such because they don't care for the two-party (one party) control on American politics. Trump is seen as an "outsider" and probably is. Clinton defines establishment politics.

But that's just my opinion, and I'm sometimes wrong.

Love,
Vitalis

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Vitalis Jackson posted:

Keep in mind that the largest voter cohort--Independents--are probably registered as such because they don't care for the two-party (one party) control on American politics.
[citation needed]

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Clinton is heading up a party where her chief rival and the president will be endorsing and campaigning for her while she wields a billion dollar campaign like the biggest bat in the history of electoral politics. Trump's negatives are so bad that he's polling at 62% unfavorable with suburbanites and barely winning white women. Those are not nubers that suggest a surprising campaign juggernaut.

Vitalis Jackson
May 14, 2009

Sun and water are healthy for you -- but not for your hair!
Fun Shoe

DACK FAYDEN posted:

[citation needed]

Which thing do you refer to? My reference to Independents as being the largest singular political cohort (actually based on recent polling), or my statement that Independents generally reject the two political parties (I made that part up, so I can't provide a citation)?

Love,
Vitalis

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Please be real.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Vitalis Jackson posted:

In general I'm looking at the large number of registered independents. That's the elephant in the room, if you'll pardon the pun. Republicans are 26% and Democrats are 32% according to the most recent Gallop poll, whereas Independents are at 38%. I think the general election will be determined by (1) political independents obviously; party voters in general may not be enthusiastic about either candidate, and (2) highly motivated (e.g., anti-establishment and angry) voters.

Keep in mind that the largest voter cohort--Independents--are probably registered as such because they don't care for the two-party (one party) control on American politics. Trump is seen as an "outsider" and probably is. Clinton defines establishment politics.

But that's just my opinion, and I'm sometimes wrong.

Love,
Vitalis

1 - Trump has the highest unfavorability numbers (outside of primary voters) of any presidential candidate in the last several decades

2 - You reg'd in 2009 and you still think sarcastically signing your posts is funny?

Vitalis Jackson
May 14, 2009

Sun and water are healthy for you -- but not for your hair!
Fun Shoe

Zeroisanumber posted:

Clinton is heading up a party where her chief rival and the president will be endorsing and campaigning for her while she wields a billion dollar campaign like the biggest bat in the history of electoral politics. Trump's negatives are so bad that he's polling at 62% unfavorable with suburbanites and barely winning white women. Those are not nubers that suggest a surprising campaign juggernaut.

I am not convinced that Bernie Sanders will be actively campaigning for Hillary Clinton. In terms of populist economics, there would need to be a more substantial difference between her and Trump.

At the very least, Trump is crazy enough to change things (although it's much like rolling the dice). Clinton is unlikely to change anything at all, and she will most likely maintain the status quo in the "rigged economy."

Love,
Vitalis

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002



"Get over it" says man who quits using internet service because of thing he can't get over.

Fake problem solved, indeed!

Vitalis Jackson
May 14, 2009

Sun and water are healthy for you -- but not for your hair!
Fun Shoe

Elephant Ambush posted:

1 - Trump has the highest unfavorability numbers (outside of primary voters) of any presidential candidate in the last several decades

2 - You reg'd in 2009 and you still think sarcastically signing your posts is funny?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/22/politics/2016-election-poll-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/

"Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton register net negative ratings in double digits, indicating the front-runners for each party's presidential nominations are viewed negatively at historic levels, according to a new CBS/New York Times poll. That makes Trump and Clinton viewed more unfavorably than any front-runner for either party since 1984, when CBS began polling voters on the question. On the Republican side, Trump scores a net negative of -33, with a favorable rating of 24% compared to 57% of voters who view him unfavorably. On the Democratic side, Clinton fares only slightly better with a net negative of -21, registering a 31% favorable rating and a 52% unfavorable rating, according to the poll."

LOVE,
Vitalis

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



This is extremely hilarious: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/04/04/developers-response-to-baldurs-gate-controversy-misses-the-point/

A new expansion for Baldur's Gate just came out and apparently a bunch of alt right and GG idiots are really mad because a minor NPC mentions that she was born male, if you ask her about herself. Also Minsc has a line to the effect of "actually it's about ethics in hero adventuring." The game is currently getting brigaded on metacritic with 0/10 reviews about how Beamdog is forcing their feminazi SJW agenda on Baldur's Gate fans and ruining a once-great franchise. This Breitbart article is gold.

quote:

Rather, the problem lies in Beamdog’s level of respect — or lack thereof — for a character that is deeply meaningful to an entire generation of gamers. Minsc is the lovable hamster-toting warrior of both Baldur’s Gate titles. His legacy extends into novelization and comic books, and he’s been praised by just about every conceivable gaming publication at one time or another. He’s an intellectual innocent, a gentle giant.

With one quip, they’ve turned that great big teddy bear of a hero into a passive-aggressive tool to insult a portion of their potential customers. It’s a cynical decision, and a needless one. It’s intentionally sarcastic and insulting, stooping to the tactics that people consistently ladle onto anyone who has ever participated in the #GamerGate conversation, without offering any useful rebuttal.

It sounds like these guys want a safe space to play video games without LGBT characters and might have been - dare I say it? - triggered.

Hulk Krogan fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Apr 5, 2016

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Hulk Krogan posted:

This is extremely hilarious: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/04/04/developers-response-to-baldurs-gate-controversy-misses-the-point/

A new expansion for Baldur's Gate just came out and apparently a bunch of alt right and GG idiots are really mad because a minor NPC mentions that she was born male, if you ask her about herself. Also Minsc has a line to the effect of "actually it's about ethics in hero adventuring." The game is currently getting brigaded on metacritic with 0/10 reviews about how Beamdog is forcing their feminazi SJW agenda on Baldur's Gate fans and ruining a once-great franchise. This Breitbart article is gold.


It sounds like these guys want a safe space to play video games without LGBT characters and might have been - dare I say it? - triggered.

What, a setting with belts of gender swapping has a character who swapped genders? :jerkbag:

Guess they need to work on their suspension of disbelief.

Seriously though, what a bunch of crybabies.

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ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014
God drat does it depress me that idiot gamers on the internet look like they're poised to rise from the ashes of this election and become the face of the new right wing.

Please stop making my lifelong hobby a breeding ground for complete monsters :smith:

e: at least it kind of looks like GGers are becoming an emerging force in the alt-right, even establishment Right Wingers are starting to take terms and enemies from them. I honestly don't know how it's going to turn out though, whether they become a legitimate force in the Culture Wars or get tossed aside as allies of convenience.

ManlyGrunting fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Apr 5, 2016

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