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George Zimmer posted:F1 has been, dare I say it, better than IndyCar so far. How bad are the areo kits loving up the racing this year?
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Norns posted:How bad are the areo kits loving up the racing this year? the aero kits aren't really a problem other than that they cost money and change nothing. st. pete was an OK race, just nothing spectacular. the package at phoenix had too much downforce and it made it hard to pass, though i thought it was super fun to watch. NASCAR has been crushing both F1 and indycar in terms of entertainment value this year.
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Apr 5, 2016 20:48
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Fine fine. I'll watch some nascar again. This poo poo better be good.
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be nice wicka posted:the aero kits aren't really a problem other than that they cost money and change nothing. st. pete was an OK race, just nothing spectacular. the package at phoenix had too much downforce and it made it hard to pass, though i thought it was super fun to watch. NASCAR has been crushing both F1 and indycar in terms of entertainment value this year. St. Pete is also a mediocre track.
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Human Grand Prix posted:St. Pete is also a mediocre track. it's like indycar's monaco, kind of. good looking track that always draws a good crowd despite being super tight and boring.
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learnincurve posted:The problem is that they do currently have two dictators, Bernie and Todt, and they are both batshit insane, power hungry, out of touch with what the fans want, don't care what the drivers want, don't care what the teams want and seem to be living in the 1980s. Right now no one can vote on anything that those two don't propose. This is why they keep giving teams a choice, vote for something really out there or vote for the thing they want to get though. If they wanted to they could say things like "vote for a reverse grid or vote for a knock out qualifying" or " vote to keep knock out qualifying as it is or vote for a modified version" and then when teams refuse to do so they can act all innocent and go "it was the team's choice! We were willing to work with them but this inability to make decisions is why we need more power!" It's the way it's always been, Bernie wants X, proposes Stupid Y, X seems more reasonable compared to Y wash, rinse, repeat
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djssniper posted:It's the way it's always been, Bernie wants X, proposes Stupid Y, X seems more reasonable compared to Y wash, rinse, repeat Except they called him on his bluff and now we're stuck with this stupid qualifying system.
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I'm not sure people realise how hosed up this all is now. In the recent past it's been a number of people including FIA approved groups bringing proposals to the table and then if the FIA approves of what they are saying or thinks its worth putting to the general council (or whatever convoluted system they were using that year) a vote happened. None of those groups, including all the cost cutting and freaking safety working groups, can bring anything forward to be voted on. Only Bernie and Todt can do this. No matter where you stand on the issue, the teams have not yet been allowed to talk about ot vote on anything to do with halos or windscreens, because Bernie and Todt are ignoring it and not putting it on agendas.
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May... also what El Hefe said lol
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I'm not getting my hopes up just yet it's just repeating that rumour in the Brazilian press without adding anything new or any supporting evidence.
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andyf posted:In other news, Are Max (v1.0) took his ladyfriend out for a nice jaunt up the Goodwood hill in that NASCAR thingymajobby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhf1pGAkZX4
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learnincurve posted:I'm not getting my hopes up just yet it's just repeating that rumour in the Brazilian press without adding anything new or any supporting evidence.  Spin up the hype machine and set it to "Maximum"
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td4guy posted:Bernie's at it again, haha! I watched the hell out of Eff Wun from like 2004-2009, then pretty much quit paying attention. Now I'm kind of coming back to it and I see this hideous arrogant (and probably now senile) little troll is still around. He must have more money than many of the nations on earth by now, why won't he shut up and retire?
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MrMojok posted:I watched the hell out of Eff Wun from like 2004-2009, then pretty much quit paying attention. Now I'm kind of coming back to it and I see this hideous arrogant (and probably now senile) little troll is still around. He must have more money than many of the nations on earth by now, why won't he shut up and retire? He wants his daughters to be filthy rich when he expires.
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MustardFacial posted:
Calling it now: Schumi recovers and wins last WDC with alfa
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If they do this they should rebadge the engines in the Haas cars as Chryslers
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Kilonum posted:If they do this they should rebadge the engines in the Haas cars as Chryslers Haas: Powered by Dodge. *hellcat jumps across the screen*
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Haven't Haas pulled a bit of a Super Aguri, the near-customer car thing, I mean? They've got a managerial genius in the form of Steiner (only decent one Jaguar ever had), I'm really curious what they can do the next couple of years.
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Sulman posted:Haven't Haas pulled a bit of a Super Aguri, the near-customer car thing, I mean? They've got a managerial genius in the form of Steiner (only decent one Jaguar ever had), I'm really curious what they can do the next couple of years. From what i understand they have effectively moved many of their own nascar and ex-marussia/lotus people into a department of dallara to manufacture all the important carbon fiber bits and has ferrari running gear, but they are constructors, they do design and assemble the vehicle. Nobody complained when force india used mclaren bits, or williams using mercedes bits. Its raycisim against americans.
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By 2019, Ferrari will be buying parts from Haas.
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gret posted:By 2019, Ferrari will be buying parts from Haas.
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gret posted:By 2019, Ferrari will be buying parts from Haas. Haas' CNC Empire has come true
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gret posted:By 2019, Ferrari will be buying parts from Haas. It's possible, virtually every team bought parts from Minardi at one stage. Ok, it was a wheel washer but that's not the point.
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am I the only one who thinks this endless debate about Haas is a bit silly when half the grid bought entire teams from other people?
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El Hefe posted:lol at Ferrari having 3 teams now and they still can't beat Mercedes The FIA should ban all non Ferrari teams from F1
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Ban all the teams and Grand Prix's should become Bernie and the rest of the CVC old men's brigade running round the track on Sundays making "BRRRRMMMMM" noises.
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Dubs posted:still not loud enough They run carrying around speakers playing MP3 recordings of SCREAMING VEE TENS.
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learnincurve posted:am I the only one who thinks this endless debate about Haas is a bit silly when half the grid bought entire teams from other people? It is a little, but there is the question of what is a constructor, and exactly how much of the car do they have to make. I think the last time something really similar to Haas happened was Toro Rosso 2007-8 when they ran RBR's chassis with Ferrari engine and drivetrain. This being closed up in the rules nearly resulted in STR being sold in 2009, but there was no buyer. In Haas' case they're just being sensible, and let's face it, better they're on the grid than not.
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Sulman posted:It is a little, but there is the question of what is a constructor, and exactly how much of the car do they have to make. What about Brawn? Took someone else's fully built car and shoved someone else's engine in it and won a WDC, no one complained,or whined and said the constructors championship was any less valid that year. I can't help but feel that it's people of my dad's generation who sit there muttering "uppity drat yanks buying their way into a sport who do they think they are" to themselves while complaining about Haas not being a real team in newspaper comments sections.
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