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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Not Operator posted:

Or more literary, did a Yithian just leave?
I thought Yiffians were human souls in fursuits.

e: 2017 - The world's most powerful laser is scheduled to come online in Romania, where it will be used to terrorize Nigel Farage.

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TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Don't be silly. Human souls can't exist inside fursuits.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Not Operator posted:

Or more literary, did a Yithian just leave?

Arrived.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Kegluneq posted:

Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party... 'Now, Win the Peace' seems a little more tone deaf to me.

These are the cards I tried to buy earlier and had my card blocked by HSBC :shrug:

Yeah, but two of the four "Iconic Quotes" to cover the entirety of the history of the Labour Party coming from the current leader, when his name isn't Kier Hardie, is a bit like those polls that claim Angels by Robbie Williams is the greatest British song of all time. Also don't worry, I'm sure HSBC will ensure the charges for the declined transaction will go to a more deserving political cause.

Guavanaut posted:

The new Clause IV is a sort of cheery cheesy political equivalent of Keep Calm And Carry On.

Fair point. :smith:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

winegums posted:


The fact that I need to send a ticket request, and have a consultant sign off on, any folders I want set up on the network and for any addition or removal of people's access to these folders.

That is hilarious.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


goddamnedtwisto posted:

a bit like those polls that claim Angels by Robbie Williams is the greatest British song of all time

I will FIGHT you.

At least I know I will always be blessed with love :mad:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Mark and Lard's version was better.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
perhaps the press will keep pushing this?

If there was ever a time a straight question demanded a straight answer, it was this afternoon when David Cameron was asked about his family’s involvement with offshore tax avoidance. But unfortunately for the British public, the Prime Minister wasn’t in the mood to provide a straight answer – and instead chose to dodge the issue of his late father’s offshore business dealings altogether.

The Prime Minister was speaking at PwC this afternoon and, at the end of his speech, took just two questions from the press. He had previously implied that he would take more but this opportunity didn’t materialise, meaning that journalists were unable to probe the non-answer he provided.

Cameron was asked directly whether he or his family had benefited from the offshore Blairmore Holdings fund mentioned in the Panama Papers and established by his father, Ian Cameron. In reply, he spoke about British efforts to reduce tax avoidance and outlined his personal financial situation. He detailed his salary as Prime Minister, his savings and interests and the proceeds of the rental of his Witney home.

While it’s great to see the Prime Minister open up about his personal finances, he didn't exactly answer the question. Perhaps this new period of openness will lead to him releasing his tax return, as Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn promised to do earlier today. Perhaps not.

The disappointing fact is that today, Cameron answered the question he wanted to answer. On an issue as important as this, that simply is not good enough. If it’s true that at the same time as the Tories have been talking tough about tax havens and tax avoidance – not to mention legislating for some of the harshest cuts to public services – our own Prime Minister has known all along that he benefited from offshore accounts which didn’t pay UK tax, then we deserve proper answers.

“Have you benefited from tax avoidance?” is a pretty straightforward question. If the answer really is no, then why didn't Cameron just say it? If the answer is yes, then we have a serious problem on our hands.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...g-a6969941.html

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

ThomasPaine posted:

oh my loving god I just saw this on the BBC frontpage

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35969391

IDS crying about a woman his department screwed being listless and angry

He did it before, wandered round Glasgow crying about how very sad it was that people were so poor then got the cabinet position and proceeded to gently caress them over all the more.

I don't know, maybe he does believe everything he says and genuinely thinks he is helping people overcome their dependency to food and shelter.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Not Operator posted:

Or more literary, did a Yithian just leave?

That would explain so many things in politics.

hookerbot 5000 posted:

I don't know, maybe he does believe everything he says and genuinely thinks he is helping people overcome their dependency to food and shelter.

Well, he is, he's liberating them from their bodies by killing them.

IDS the transhumanist libertarian would be a more interesting character than IDS the rules lawyer libertarian.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Apr 5, 2016

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I know this isn't strictly UK* but the new president of FIFA has apparently been linked to corruption via the panama papers lmfao

On graun and i'm phoneposting so cba to link.

*except insofar as everything to do with football is inherently and eternally british

Robot Mil
Apr 13, 2011

This is the Graun article

Colour me shocked, corruption doesn't end with Blatter.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

winegums posted:

There is definately fat in the NHS to cut. Basically 2/3 of the shite that is used to keep doctors on a short leash could be removed with no harm.

End overbearingly tight IT security that just gets circumvented in fairly unsafe ways.
Having worked in software development in the nhs since January id be professionally interested in knowing which tight security is bothering you exactly and what you scamps are up to getting around it and why :)

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Tesseraction posted:

The problem is they care about being the next big figure of history who led the Great Socialist Enlightenment, and if they can't be in the inner circle then by golly are they making their own new party with a new inner circle that they get to choose this time.

People are so desperate to be Lenin they end up being Trotsky.

There are groups that don't do that, you just don't hear about them because they don't self publicise quite so much.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

mrpwase posted:

I will FIGHT you.

At least I know I will always be blessed with love :mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHfLbUqqqlM

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
I really hope that this Panama thing drags out for as long as possible in the runup to the local elections. Oh god imagine if another large offshore bank suffered a similar leak.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
You can trust the Tories with the nation's finances, because they know all the tricks *WINK*

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

You know when you all joke about "this is bad for Corbyn because..."

Well

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/717460847585574913

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

No.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I put my right shoe on my left foot by accident this morning. Corbyn should resign over it IMO.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Cabinet posted:

You know when you all joke about "this is bad for Corbyn because..."

Well

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/717460847585574913

Either that was a typo or Pissflaps works for LBC.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Seaside Loafer posted:

Having worked in software development in the nhs since January id be professionally interested in knowing which tight security is bothering you exactly and what you scamps are up to getting around it and why :)

Well my hospital has a loving retarded policy where if you want access to anything from a network folder to a ward (via swipe card) the only way to do it is to get someone who already has access to send an e-mail to IT saying you need access.

When I started in my job obviously the person before me had left, and my immediate superior was a locum. I didn't know anyone who had access to the stuff I needed, but no matter how many times I called IT it was met with the same 'someone who already has access has to tell us to give you access'. I spent the better part of a week writing everything down and tailgating people through locked doors. Thanks a bunch.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

MrL_JaKiri posted:

There are groups that don't do that, you just don't hear about them because they don't self publicise quite so much.

I found a man who locked himself in a box who happens to be a perfect leader for the entire world. Unfortunately he refuses to leave his box even if he'll happily provide policy and leadership. I'm sure he'll become leader someday once we find his box and agree to listen to the box.

Cabinet posted:

You know when you all joke about "this is bad for Corbyn because..."

Well

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/717460847585574913

Oh good I live in The Thick of It. gently caress.

Kaislioc
Feb 14, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

I put my right shoe on my left foot by accident this morning. Corbyn should resign over it IMO.

Brutal.

OvineYeast
Jul 16, 2007

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden
Why is the new Labour Election Broadcast so tedious and bad? It's like they looked at the Liz Kendall campaign video and thought it would be good to imitate it for some reason?

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Labour hasn't really been in a good stride with PR for a while.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

jabby posted:

Well my hospital has a loving retarded policy where if you want access to anything from a network folder to a ward (via swipe card) the only way to do it is to get someone who already has access to send an e-mail to IT saying you need access.

When I started in my job obviously the person before me had left, and my immediate superior was a locum. I didn't know anyone who had access to the stuff I needed, but no matter how many times I called IT it was met with the same 'someone who already has access has to tell us to give you access'. I spent the better part of a week writing everything down and tailgating people through locked doors. Thanks a bunch.
Yeah fair enough. The general rule (with loads of exceptions) with access to anything from intranet pages to network drives to areas is that authorisation needs to come from your line manager which I can see must be a bit annoying if you dont know who it is and they arent around. An email from them will usually do it, email them, say you need this whatever because reasons and tell them to email IT saying i authorise.

There is a reason for it not being easy, real life peoples names/addresses/medical records etc, super private data innit.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

OvineYeast posted:

Why is the new Labour Election Broadcast so tedious and bad? It's like they looked at the Liz Kendall campaign video and thought it would be good to imitate it for some reason?

I thought it was OK. It was nice to see actual evidence being used to back up points rather than just 'we are great, vote for us'.

Speaking of which, what did you think of the Tories? Not sure they hit the right tone by emphasising that they will lower taxes, protect education and improve the NHS. Surely everyone with eyes and ears knows that they are locked in major disputes over all those things right now.

Seaside Loafer posted:

Yeah fair enough. The general rule (with loads of exceptions) with access to anything from intranet pages to network drives to areas is that authorisation needs to come from your line manager which I can see must be a bit annoying if you dont know who it is and they arent around. An email from them will usually do it, email them, say you need this whatever because reasons and tell them to email IT saying i authorise.

There is a reason for it not being easy, real life peoples names/addresses/medical records etc, super private data innit.

The problem is this is poo poo that should be sorted out before you start the job, not a week in. My predecessor left me detailed notes about all current patients that I couldn't access. It was dangerous, and when you have a ward full of sick patients you can't properly treat a generic 'nothing we can do' from IT is enough to make your blood boil.

It shouldn't be that hard to just say 'this guy is starting as the new medical F1, he needs access to this, this and this'. Rather than me filling in a form and getting an email sent for every single thing I need. Right?

jabby fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Apr 5, 2016

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
I wanted to have toast this morning but then I noticed the bread was mouldy. Corbyn should resign over this.

OvineYeast
Jul 16, 2007

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

Extreme0 posted:

Labour hasn't really been in a good stride with PR for a while.

tbh I would have said that generally their campaign has been right on point the last month or so, but this is a really terrible advert.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

jabby posted:

I thought it was OK. It was nice to see actual evidence being used to back up points rather than just 'we are great, vote for us'.

Speaking of which, what did you think of the Tories? Not sure they hit the right tone by emphasising that they will lower taxes, protect education and improve the NHS. Surely everyone with eyes and ears knows that they are locked in major disputes over all those things right now.

Not if they shout loudly enough that they're not, they're not. At least, not in the minds of the voters. Or at least that's they're logic, and sadly it's pretty accurate at times.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Seaside Loafer posted:

There is a reason for it not being easy, real life peoples names/addresses/medical records etc, super private data innit.
Until the government wants to sell it, then it's less of a big deal.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

jabby posted:

I thought it was OK. It was nice to see actual evidence being used to back up points rather than just 'we are great, vote for us'.

Speaking of which, what did you think of the Tories? Not sure they hit the right tone by emphasising that they will lower taxes, protect education and improve the NHS. Surely everyone with eyes and ears knows that they are locked in major disputes over all those things right now.


The problem is this is poo poo that should be sorted out before you start the job, not a week in. My predecessor left me detailed notes about all current patients that I couldn't access. It was dangerous, and when you have a ward full of sick patients you can't properly treat a generic 'nothing we can do' from IT is enough to make your blood boil.

It shouldn't be that hard to just say 'this guy is starting as the new medical F1, he needs access to this, this and this'. Rather than me filling in a form and getting an email sent for every single thing I need. Right?
Couldnt agree with you more and whoever was in charge of you starting should have sent the 'ive got a new starter, sort him out with this this and this' poo poo to whatever places were relavent for you. If they did and it just didnt happen then i dont know. I do know the system is very email reliant in many places which is a bit poo poo.

Bungeyjump
Nov 9, 2003
Bungeyjumpingpeopledie

namesake posted:

One overly tight security mess is with Commissioning support units and personal details. Commissioners are required (as in are legally required to) to have service arrangements with outside organisations like CSUs or private data companies but because these aren't considered NHS organisations or deal directly with care situations they aren't allowed to have free access to patient information like NHS numbers, instead they must be an accredited safe haven which allows them some access to data but not all of it. However since we do deal in situations where we have to identify patients by their NHS numbers or receive data with NHS numbers in it there are a few members of staff at the CSUs which are technically employed by a different NHS organisation which means they are allowed to see NHS numbers. Some of these people sit opposite me in an open plan office. These people are responsible for building our data warehouse with pseudo NHS numbers replacing the real ones meaning we can identify patients within our system but not with any other organisation.

I think I actually find it easier to explain how the tariff works than I do to explain how CCGs/CSUs/DSCROs work. It's convoluted beyond belief and makes trying to deal with data challenges a pain in the arse, as everyone on the commissioning side can often only see pseudo data.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Guavanaut posted:

Until the government wants to sell it, then it's less of a big deal.
Last month on request of some management bods I produced data for the last 3 years worth of 911/999 calls and ambulance assignments in my trust including the private data; addresses, phone numbers, detail of the incident etc. This was sent to some 3rd party 'Business Intelligence' company to do whatever the gently caress they are doing with it. Its all above board, they signed some confidentiality thing but it weirds me the gently caress out that this happens, allot. The developer I dealt with at the 3rd parts end was a proper pushy arsehole and not really someone id personnaly choose to have all that data. Makes you think dont it.

e: To claify the BI company are doing work for the nhs, they arent just mining data for adverts or whatever! it just weirds me out a) money is being wasted on the highly likely to be useless results and b) its so loving easy for a company to get hold of 3 million records of highly private data and they are a noddy looking bullshit firm with a crap website :/

Seaside Loafer fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Apr 6, 2016

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Seaside Loafer posted:

Couldnt agree with you more and whoever was in charge of you starting should have sent the 'ive got a new starter, sort him out with this this and this' poo poo to whatever places were relavent for you. If they did and it just didnt happen then i dont know. I do know the system is very email reliant in many places which is a bit poo poo.

Yeah, that doesn't happen at my hospital. Everyone gets generic IT and ward access on the first day. Then, while doing your job, you have to figure out everything specific to your job you need access to, where it is located, and find someone to give you access to it. That is the actual procedure.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Seaside Loafer posted:

Last month on request of some management bods I produced data for the last 3 years worth of 911/999 calls and ambulance assignments in my trust including the private data; addresses, phone numbers, detail of the incident etc. This was sent to some 3rd party 'Business Intelligence' company to do whatever the gently caress they are doing with it. Its all above board, they signed some confidentiality thing but it weirds me the gently caress out that this happens, allot. The developer I dealt with at the 3rd parts end was a proper pushy arsehole and not really someone id personnaly choose to have all that data. Makes you think dont it.
My GP printed a bunch of flyers about the 'big data' sell off of a couple years back encouraging everyone to opt-out and petition it on the basis that it was going to be horribly done and even though it was supposed to be 'anonymized' there would have to be enough stuff in there to make it useful that would also make it trivial to identify a person, and this was the stuff that would be going outside of the confidentiality loop to whoever has the right money because there was no personally identifiable data in there if you didn't have the 5 minutes to backtrace it.

Then apparently after a whole lot of people opted out the government shifted the goalposts so that the opt-out wasn't all that strong anyway. :negative:

Scikar
Nov 20, 2005

5? Seriously?

jabby posted:

Yeah, that doesn't happen at my hospital. Everyone gets generic IT and ward access on the first day. Then, while doing your job, you have to figure out everything specific to your job you need access to, where it is located, and find someone to give you access to it. That is the actual procedure.

This is the same at basically every company that is more than a few years old. Role based access is both more secure and less effort to manage for everyone involved, but unless you're building a company from the ground up you have to do a cutover from the existing security setup, during which you can expect a whole bunch of people being unable to do their jobs. That might be acceptable if you do the heavy lifting while most staff are on holiday and then tell all your staff to deal with the fact that there will be some disruption for a while afterwards, but causing a week (at least) of chaos in a hospital is never going to go down well. If you don't do a cutover and try to do things gradually, then you end up running two security architectures in parallel which is double the management workload and double the opportunities for mistakes to create security holes. In the meantime the goalposts keep moving whenever staff are reorganised and it takes so much effort to keep things going that the project never finishes.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Scikar posted:

This is the same at basically every company that is more than a few years old. Role based access is both more secure and less effort to manage for everyone involved, but unless you're building a company from the ground up you have to do a cutover from the existing security setup, during which you can expect a whole bunch of people being unable to do their jobs. That might be acceptable if you do the heavy lifting while most staff are on holiday and then tell all your staff to deal with the fact that there will be some disruption for a while afterwards, but causing a week (at least) of chaos in a hospital is never going to go down well. If you don't do a cutover and try to do things gradually, then you end up running two security architectures in parallel which is double the management workload and double the opportunities for mistakes to create security holes. In the meantime the goalposts keep moving whenever staff are reorganised and it takes so much effort to keep things going that the project never finishes.
Id go along with that mostly but Jabby or whoever needs the basics to do their main job on day 1. Not having that setup for him is a gently caress up. Incremental works after that.

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jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Seaside Loafer posted:

Id go along with that mostly but Jabby or whoever needs the basics to do their main job on day 1. Not having that setup for him is a gently caress up. Incremental works after that.

Yeah I don't know much about security systems but surely it should be possible to say 'the cardiology F1 needs access to this folder and this ward' then give that to whoever the new cardiology F1 is by default. Instead of them having to find out where the folder they need access to is located and request it themselves. Especially if there isn't anyone present who can actually authorize access.

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