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Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
Crypto came in! No matter how locked down network security is, laptops leaving and entering the environment are still a huge risk. I guess HR won't be allowed to work from home anymore, clicking on all their infected resume emails.

Kaspersky may have helped if this thing was on our network often enough to get updates.

I guess this will be my official foray into incident response documentation!

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MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

quote:

Hello,

Can you please install Quickbooks 2016 on our computers as soon as possible?

We don’t have a license already for QB 2016. We need it on 5 computers.

Sure, whatever, I'll just log into their Intuit account and order some licen--



It's been like this for an hour now :geno:

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

One of the things we invested in was Cisco Cloud Web Security. It works great. On laptops you install an agent and it keeps filtering and monitoring traffic even offsite.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 23 days!

Khisanth Magus posted:

I just don't want to spend the energy to fight with a system(or even have the energy required to fight it most of the time) that is going to waste my time with diagnoses of insomnia(no, I don't have any problems falling asleep as a matter of fact, I fall asleep quite well at 3am), wasting my time with "sleep hygiene" crap that isn't going to help, and attempts to just drug away all my problems.

If you think your doctor is just trying to get you out the door instead of listening to your problems, you should find a different doctor.

What are you expecting from a doctor that doesn't involve medication though, Voodoo?

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Jerry Cotton posted:

You type fairly well so I guess you learned to cope with your glueability?

He glued more fingers onto the other stuff he glued to his hands, now he's the fastest typist ever
Ol' Krazy Keyboardin' Collateral they call him, typin' like a receptionist on meth

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Brut posted:

If you think your doctor is just trying to get you out the door instead of listening to your problems, you should find a different doctor.

What are you expecting from a doctor that doesn't involve medication though, Voodoo?

There is no effective medication for DSPS, and even if there were, you really aren't supposed to use sleeping pills long-term. Before I went to my sleep doctor (somniatrist? somnician?), my GP just wanted to try all sorts of sleep medication. It led to me sleeping 12-14 hours per day.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
Veritas backup restore will not do a "point in time" restore and delete files created after the backup was taken. It just overwrites files that were there previously with the backup version. Fine, I guess, but I'd like the option to delete poo poo that wasn't supposed to be there since I now have to deal with tens of thousands of cryptolocker ransom notes.

Powershell should work just fine, write the script, test it by logging file locations with no deletes, looks fine, patch in the delete command, works great. It's crawling through our mapped drives looking for the file name and nuking anything it comes across.

Except, oddly, it stops on the Accounting folder. For 30 minutes. What could it be doing? Let's take a look at how many files are in thWHAT THE gently caress.

1.1 Million files. That can't be healthy.

EDIT: My senior admin thinks it's a good use of his time to crawl through the sub folders by hand to delete these files, and he thinks it's just as fast as my script that blew through tens of thousands of folders in 30 minutes.

Judge Schnoopy fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Apr 5, 2016

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.

Judge Schnoopy posted:

EDIT: My senior admin thinks it's a good use of his time to crawl through the sub folders by hand to delete these files, and he thinks it's just as fast as my script that blew through tens of thousands of folders in 30 minutes.

"Bet you my way is faster, loser buys lemon cake and a bottle of Penderyn single malt Madeira finish for the office on Friday."

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Judge Schnoopy posted:

Veritas backup restore will not do a "point in time" restore and delete files created after the backup was taken. It just overwrites files that were there previously with the backup version. Fine, I guess, but I'd like the option to delete poo poo that wasn't supposed to be there since I now have to deal with tens of thousands of cryptolocker ransom notes.

Are there backup programs that actually do this? Every backup I've ever used has simply restored the files that are in the backup without touching anything else.

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Crypto came in! No matter how locked down network security is, laptops leaving and entering the environment are still a huge risk. I guess HR won't be allowed to work from home anymore, clicking on all their infected resume emails.

Kaspersky may have helped if this thing was on our network often enough to get updates.

I guess this will be my official foray into incident response documentation!

I don't understand why anyone in TYOOL 2016 wouldn't use a service like mimecast.

We're 350 users, 80 of them are remote. We've had 1 cryptolocker infection that happened about 3 months ago via an infected HP Procurve firmware package got downloaded. Every other one gets quarantined by mimecast, helpdesk either deletes or tests potentially bad programs/links in a sandbox.

nexxai
Jul 17, 2002

quack quack bjork
Fun Shoe

ConfusedUs posted:

Are there backup programs that actually do this? Every backup I've ever used has simply restored the files that are in the backup without touching anything else.
That better be how any backup software works! What happens if I want to restore a single deleted file? It better not loving touch any other file in that folder.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

I would expect in most situations like above, the easy way would be to blow the data away and then restore.

Not a backup admin so probably not best practice tho.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Brut posted:

If you think your doctor is just trying to get you out the door instead of listening to your problems, you should find a different doctor.

What are you expecting from a doctor that doesn't involve medication though, Voodoo?

As the other poster said, you can't medicate what I have, sleeping medications just make your situation worse. The only purpose to getting it formally diagnosed is to give it to HR so maybe I won't be fired the next time I sleep through the 4 staggered alarms I have set up in the morning.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





nexxai posted:

That better be how any backup software works! What happens if I want to restore a single deleted file? It better not loving touch any other file in that folder.

That's kind of my opinion, frankly.

RFC2324 posted:

I would expect in most situations like above, the easy way would be to blow the data away and then restore.

Not a backup admin so probably not best practice tho.

That's the most common thing, yes. Less common is manual (or scripted) removal of unwanted stuff. And in neither case is it the backup program's responsibility. It is the admin's.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Khisanth Magus posted:

As the other poster said, you can't medicate what I have, sleeping medications just make your situation worse. The only purpose to getting it formally diagnosed is to give it to HR so maybe I won't be fired the next time I sleep through the 4 staggered alarms I have set up in the morning.

Get the timely app on your phone... you have to do math problems to get it to shut the hell up.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 23 days!

Khisanth Magus posted:

As the other poster said, you can't medicate what I have, sleeping medications just make your situation worse. The only purpose to getting it formally diagnosed is to give it to HR so maybe I won't be fired the next time I sleep through the 4 staggered alarms I have set up in the morning.

Even if it's true that you there is no combination of currently available medication (this covers way more than just "Sleeping pills") that can help you in any way, you came across as having some weird judgement describing your personal experience with a handful of doctors as "the healthcare industry" and thinking that doing anything more than a few minutes of uncompensated work is normal/standard or even at all acceptable.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

ConfusedUs posted:

That's kind of my opinion, frankly.


That's the most common thing, yes. Less common is manual (or scripted) removal of unwanted stuff. And in neither case is it the backup program's responsibility. It is the admin's.

I guess this is true. I have never seen a backup program that deleted things, and it shouldn't even as an option.

Senior admin cleaned a few folders and wrote the folders down by hand. My script recorded 21000 file kills and documented every one in a log file. I think I won.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

DigitalMocking posted:

I don't understand why anyone in TYOOL 2016 wouldn't use a service like mimecast.

We're 350 users, 80 of them are remote. We've had 1 cryptolocker infection that happened about 3 months ago via an infected HP Procurve firmware package got downloaded. Every other one gets quarantined by mimecast, helpdesk either deletes or tests potentially bad programs/links in a sandbox.

Other than their piece of poo poo web interface Mimecast has been solid at this place. No crypto in over a year.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


The portal is a bit confusing if you aren't in 'Mimecast mode' when you're using it, but at least it loving works. Better than Office 'whoops try again' 365.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
How much is Mimecast's per user pricing for virus protection? Can't be arsed to plug in my info and have yet another salesperson calling me.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Jerry Cotton posted:

You type fairly well so I guess you learned to cope with your glueability?
My ten thumbs eventually grew into proper fingers.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Kashuno posted:

I'm dumb and didn't think to use PDQ Deploy because we literally never use it in this place. So I just used PDQ Deploy instead. I'm still going to see why I couldn't get it working, but using simple solutions is much better.
We have a couple of programs we deploy with GPOs and we found the trick was to run them as startup scripts at Computer rather than User level.

Brut posted:

If you think your doctor is just trying to get you out the door instead of listening to your problems, you should find a different doctor.

What are you expecting from a doctor that doesn't involve medication though, Voodoo?
The last three times I've been to the doctor he's told me to just walk it off. One time he not only didn't tell me to medicate, he told me I'd wasted money buying ointment from the pharmacy because it wouldn't do anything just waiting wouldn't do.

Ghostlight fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Apr 6, 2016

Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape

The Macaroni posted:

Sage :arghfist::mad:

I've told this story before, but I once worked at a place where the CEO refused to allow people to work from home because "MY SON the computer security expert says that our corporate enemies could intercept the transmissions between the office and people working at home, and get a list of our donors!"

His accounts manager lives in Texas and RDP's in to work. He got sick of being around him but he was literally his first employee and he knew nobody would be able to decipher the hosed up way he does things (legal, just a massive mess) so he caved. He said no initially and brought in two people who lasted 2 days each, enough to basically tell him he's insane.

quote:

2. Backups of our Sage files were stored locally, because offsite backup was a SECURITY RISK.
3. The admin password for the server was written on a post-it note stuck to the side of the server.

The Sage logins were: username-our initials. Password-first name. Every computer in the office and all emails were 6 letters, the shortened two words of the company name. I refused to do it on the server admin account but when I left he had me change it to the 6 letters plus the suite# of the office. Even the wifi, which was just WEP. I even had to convince him to at least isolate the wifi from the network. Until he brought in his laptop and couldn't access anything. Still not sure how I managed to keep that fucker safe, nobody ever got in and the one time a virus got in was because he got that FBI child porn ransomware. And brought it into the office.

lampey posted:

$50 an hour is really cheap for consulting work. Our lowest hourly rate is $140 an hour, and that's for when we have a support agreement with from years ago, and they are nonprofits, and we are already billing them for monitoring/hosting/backups. You have experience that is valuable to the business and it would be costly for them to hire someone else and get them up to speed. They are paying you to solve their problems when no one else can, not just an hourly wage at this point. Also have a minimum time billed like 2-4 hours. Find out what it would cost to have them hire someone else to do it and negotiate from there.

Im in Massachusetts he's in Florida. He has no idea how long anything takes :smuggo:

MisterZimbu
Mar 13, 2006

RFC2324 posted:

Get the timely app on your phone... you have to do math problems to get it to shut the hell up.

If he's anything like me, he'll gladly sleep through an alarm blaring right in his ear for an hour.

Orcs and Ostriches
Aug 26, 2010


The Great Twist
I went to the gym, and sometime between then and the hour later when I checked my phone, 350 tickets came in. One of the UPSes is throwing basically every error it can at me, so I guess I get to go back and figure out wtf.

PBS
Sep 21, 2015

MisterZimbu posted:

If he's anything like me, he'll gladly sleep through an alarm blaring right in his ear for an hour.

This is my problem. Plus any puzzle or math problem I'm capable of doing while awake can be completed by waking up just enough and going back to sleep.

I find it helps if you enjoy your job and have something to wake up for. Previously I'd wake up a few hours before I needed to be at work, that way I could get stuff done, goof off, and get ready without rushing. I wasn't just waking up to get to work. (This was a later morning shift)

That's what worked best for me, but right now I'm forced to work a shift that starts early enough that this isn't easily possible for me. It's been hell struggling to wake up, fighting traffic, etc.

Lucky I just got a position in a new department, only a few weeks left in my current one. :woop:

PBS fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Apr 6, 2016

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost
I locked my computer to go use the bathroom, came back I couldn't sign in, error message says that the server doesn't have computer account for the workstation trust. I try again, same message, try local account, no good. I disconnect from the network, and my password lets me in. I connect the cable and I'm able to sign into things alright, I jump on IM and ask one of our help desk people if they've seen that error. He goes "Yep, here is the fix, go into your power settings and set your power setting to Performance, that will fix it!"
I try it and oddly enough, a power setting has nothing to do with an AD problem. He says he will escalate the problem to tier 2 and they'll give me a call right away. 2 hours go by and I hadn't heard from them.
Glad I had a work around at least, although every time I left my desk I had to disconnect a cable to sign back in.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

PBS posted:

This is my problem. Plus any puzzle or math problem I'm capable of doing while awake can be completed by waking up just enough and going back to sleep.

I wonder if there's a way I can make my phone lie to me about the time and say it's 10 minutes later than it really is.

So far the only thing that's proven to be effective in getting me out of bed is the grim realization that I need to be out of the apartment in less than 30 minutes or be late to work. I can do a lot with one less press of the snooze button.

Renegret fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Apr 6, 2016

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

DigitalMocking posted:

It does if you configure it.

Why Autosave is turned off by default though...

Yeah it shouldn't be... but unless he never actually made any edits to his file, then he definitely deleted it off the thumb drive somehow.

Either way, he had it coming.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

Conversely, 90% of our office thinks that "shut down" means, switch user, or log off, or turn off the monitor, or just not loving touch the thing but set the phone down and go get some coffee or something.

"Oh, those IT idiots are telling me to reboot again, that never works, they just have to say it, they don't realize it throws away all my stuff, I'll lie and tell them I did it."

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





CitizenKain posted:

I locked my computer to go use the bathroom, came back I couldn't sign in, error message says that the server doesn't have computer account for the workstation trust.

I've actually heard this one before, but hell if I can remember how to fix it.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

CitizenKain posted:

I locked my computer to go use the bathroom, came back I couldn't sign in, error message says that the server doesn't have computer account for the workstation trust. I try again, same message, try local account, no good. I disconnect from the network, and my password lets me in. I connect the cable and I'm able to sign into things alright, I jump on IM and ask one of our help desk people if they've seen that error. He goes "Yep, here is the fix, go into your power settings and set your power setting to Performance, that will fix it!"
I try it and oddly enough, a power setting has nothing to do with an AD problem. He says he will escalate the problem to tier 2 and they'll give me a call right away. 2 hours go by and I hadn't heard from them.
Glad I had a work around at least, although every time I left my desk I had to disconnect a cable to sign back in.

If you can, remove the pc from the domain. Reboot. Login via local admin. Readd to the domain. Reboot. Should work now.

Mr. Clark2
Sep 17, 2003

Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

ConfusedUs posted:

I've actually heard this one before, but hell if I can remember how to fix it.

Once again, our Lord and Saviour Powershell has the answer: Test-ComputerSecureChannel -repair is the cmdlet you'll want to run. Either that or use netdom, but I think the Powershell method is easier.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy

GreenNight posted:

If you can, remove the pc from the domain. Reboot. Login via local admin. Readd to the domain. Reboot. Should work now.

Don't even have to reboot twice - just go right back to system properties and repeat the process, except this time rejoin the domain. Then reboot. I have to do this way too frequently.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Judge Schnoopy posted:

I guess this is true. I have never seen a backup program that deleted things, and it shouldn't even as an option.

Senior admin cleaned a few folders and wrote the folders down by hand. My script recorded 21000 file kills and documented every one in a log file. I think I won.
Rename the root of the stuff being restored. Restore. Is it all there? Delete the renamed folder.

Also that is a lot of crypto ransom files.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

ilkhan posted:

Rename the root of the stuff being restored. Restore. Is it all there? Delete the renamed folder.

Also that is a lot of crypto ransom files.

Hit over 7000 network folders, 3 files per folder.

Could not keep a renamed copy and restore, the share directory is at 80% capacity. The powershell worked just fine to delete the files but I had to target parent folders individually instead of the root directory. The infected machine didn't have access to all parent folders, such as accounting, and I didn't have a spare 4 hours for the script to crawl through the million files in that directory.

Interesting thing, it looks like crypto queried DNS to find shares on the network that weren't mapped. Four servers with no mapped drives had shares with "authenticated users" permissions and they were all hit. Didn't expect that one. I had to check every server for shared folders because of course they aren't documented.

Oyster
Nov 11, 2005

I GOT FLAT FEET JUST LIKE MY HERO MEGAMAN
Total Clam

Brut posted:

Even if it's true that you there is no combination of currently available medication (this covers way more than just "Sleeping pills") that can help you in any way, you came across as having some weird judgement describing your personal experience with a handful of doctors as "the healthcare industry" and thinking that doing anything more than a few minutes of uncompensated work is normal/standard or even at all acceptable.

There are light therapies, though as mentioned it is very strict and one night of interrupted sleep reverts everything. The problem isn't sleeping, it's reaching stage 4 sleep. Sleeping pills actually delay stage 4 sleep even further, taking more hours to sleep for less actually productive sleep. It's kind of like a permanent second shift circadian rhythm. I do agree he needs to find a doctor knowledgeable on the topic and not generalize the healthcare industry about it though, those doctors do exist. And yes, there is no currently available medication, even outside sleeping pills.

Actually on topic: I got promoted a few months ago but haven't really filled the position because I wasn't replaced until yesterday. My new job is to physically rip apart printers and repair them. My first big project was today. The printer ate the metal baffle that's supposed to pop paper into the bypass feeder. Apparently the springs were way too taut and it stripped a screw right out of the hole, the baffle then proceeded to feed directly into the laser. I never thought that possible.

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

Dick Trauma posted:

Other than their piece of poo poo web interface Mimecast has been solid at this place. No crypto in over a year.

Their portal is loving awful, but when we had a complete vmware meltdown last week it was sure nice that on-prem users still had email

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

GreenNight posted:

If you can, remove the pc from the domain. Reboot. Login via local admin. Readd to the domain. Reboot. Should work now.

I'll give that a try if I can tomorrow, my PC is weird in that I'm not entirely sure I have local admin on it. The joy of getting hand me down laptops.

On a side note, I hope we can get a person who is really good with linux hired at some point. The previous people left and now we have all these servers and no one with enough experience to run them.

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Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

CitizenKain posted:

I'll give that a try if I can tomorrow, my PC is weird in that I'm not entirely sure I have local admin on it. The joy of getting hand me down laptops.

Use Hirens to reset the local admin credentials.

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