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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



thathonkey posted:

i'd just always get sound blaster live

I used to keep Soundblasters around in large part because Linux played nicely with them. Hasn't been an issue for a few years now, though. Trying to get onboard sound working on a dual-boot was way more trouble than it was worth, and a lot easier to just throw in a PCI soundcard and be done with it.

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Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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:lol: at that boomerang-shaped N64 controller

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Mak0rz posted:

:lol: at that boomerang-shaped N64 controller

REALITYVEST!

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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all creative products do -and always have- sucked.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Mak0rz posted:

:lol: at that boomerang-shaped N64 controller

Google the PS3 controller prototype for extra laffs.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Police Automaton posted:

all creative products do -and always have- sucked.

Yeah oh boy was the Sound Blaster 2.0 poo poo because

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Jerry Cotton posted:

Yeah oh boy was the Sound Blaster 2.0 poo poo because

No proper MPU-401 intelligent mode compatibility.

Came with Lemmings tho

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Police Automaton posted:

No proper MPU-401 intelligent mode compatibility.

Ah yes a thing that about 100% of users had absolutely no use for.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Jerry Cotton posted:

Ah yes a thing that about 100% of users had absolutely no use for.

Calm down dude, I'm half-serious.

Still really hate creative products tho, especially the later ones with their terrible, terrible drivers. Also really don't like how they shaved off every penny wherever they could on their overpriced products&their very aggressive market behavior. They buried a lot of competition that did a lot of things better technically just because they were in early. They don't really deserve the reputation they have.

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer
My life has been reduced to downloading old dog games and meticulously curating them into my direct access dos menu now. Thanks computer relic thread!

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

8 track betamax posted:

My life has been reduced to downloading old dog games and meticulously curating them into my direct access dos menu now. Thanks computer relic thread!

Play Balloon Challenge.

curried lamb of God
Aug 31, 2001

we are all Marwinners

Police Automaton posted:

Calm down dude, I'm half-serious.

Still really hate creative products tho, especially the later ones with their terrible, terrible drivers. Also really don't like how they shaved off every penny wherever they could on their overpriced products&their very aggressive market behavior. They buried a lot of competition that did a lot of things better technically just because they were in early. They don't really deserve the reputation they have.

R.I.P. Aureal, my SQ2500 and subsequent Turtle Beach Santa Cruz were so much better than Creative's products

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Police Automaton posted:

all creative products do -and always have- sucked.

I guess you've never used a creative Zen mp3 player.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

8 track betamax posted:

My life has been reduced to downloading old dog games and meticulously curating them into my direct access dos menu now. Thanks computer relic thread!

Please post a screen shot of your menu.

My DOS menu which my dad created worked like this:

AUTOEXEC.BAT ended with:
CLS
TYPE MENU.TXT

MENU.TXT contained e.g.: (1) XTree

You can guess what 1.BAT ran.

Because I was 31337 I replaced MENU.TXT with MENU.ANS and not only made it look nice, I changed the color of all the menu entries for things I had to delete off the hard disk due to lack of disk space. Remember lack of disk space? :( Someone's probably gonna trump me with "remember lack of space on your tape".

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Remember when you didn't have enough room in your closet for all your punch cards and you had to throw some away.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

I guess Sound Blaster is like DOS and Windows: you could get better products, or cheaper products, or maybe even both better and cheaper at the same time, but there's definitely a benefit to going along with everyone else rather than using something that's a bit unique, not as compatible, etc.

My Sound Blaster Pro (2?) seemed to just work with pretty much everything and had some backwards compatibility, I don't remember ever needing to mess around with compatibility TSRs.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Buttcoin purse posted:

My Sound Blaster Pro (2?) seemed to just work with pretty much everything and had some backwards compatibility, I don't remember ever needing to mess around with compatibility TSRs.

:hfive:

I loved my old Sound Blaster Pro. I used that thing for years, moving it from computer to computer, until they stopped putting ISA slots in motherboards. (Which was also about the time motherboards started getting onboard sound, which was a very convenient bit of timing.)

I never had a video card with anywhere close to that kind of lifespan. It seemed like they were coming out with a new kind of AGP slot every year...

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Yeah I think mine started its life in my 386, then moved on to a 486, a Cyrix 5x86 and finally got moved to a Cyrix 6x86 machine. It might still be alive, one day I'd like to find out.

I think the only problem I had was the volume knob eventually came unscrewed and I was too lazy to pull the machine out of the desk and open it up to fix it. It was so convenient having the volume knob on the back of the machine too, but oh well it was better than no volume knob at all!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


For my personal computing needs, I haven't used speakers for maybe 3 years. Just various headphones/headsets. Still love my Logitech G930s

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Buttcoin purse posted:

I guess Sound Blaster is like DOS and Windows: you could get better products, or cheaper products, or maybe even both better and cheaper at the same time, but there's definitely a benefit to going along with everyone else rather than using something that's a bit unique, not as compatible, etc.

My Sound Blaster Pro (2?) seemed to just work with pretty much everything and had some backwards compatibility, I don't remember ever needing to mess around with compatibility TSRs.

True, but only up until the Live! series. I had an early one, and between the hardware incompatibilities (though that was probably Via's or nvidia's fault), the crashy drivers, and the lack of Linux/BSD drivers (creative are not great at publishing hardware documentation) I was never too happy with it.

These days I use a cheap USB DAC/headphone amplifier. Works on absolutely everything, sounds good, and unlike several built-in soundcards I've used it doesn't have weird screechy background noise when I scroll webpages. (I can only assume that most motherboards have very mediocre noise shielding.)

Computer viking has a new favorite as of 11:07 on Apr 6, 2016

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

Buttcoin purse posted:

Please post a screen shot of your menu.

My DOS menu which my dad created worked like this:

AUTOEXEC.BAT ended with:
CLS
TYPE MENU.TXT

MENU.TXT contained e.g.: (1) XTree

You can guess what 1.BAT ran.
Others (like me) used config.sys <menuitem> with GOTO %CONFIG% in autoexec.bat for creating optimal memory boot options. MSCDEX and Norwegian keyboard layout stole a lot of memory I needed for games and Scream Tracker :)

Anyone remember DesqView?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

JazzmasterCurious posted:

Others (like me) used config.sys <menuitem> with GOTO %CONFIG% in autoexec.bat

Heh OK kiddo :smugmrgw:

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Police Automaton posted:

Calm down dude, I'm half-serious.

Still really hate creative products tho, especially the later ones with their terrible, terrible drivers. Also really don't like how they shaved off every penny wherever they could on their overpriced products&their very aggressive market behavior. They buried a lot of competition that did a lot of things better technically just because they were in early. They don't really deserve the reputation they have.

I had an AWE32 with extra SIMMs attached back in the day. It was awesome for playing games with MIDI soundtracks and for playing MIDI files, and I miss it terribly. What now bizzatch :colbert:

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

JazzmasterCurious posted:

Others (like me) used config.sys <menuitem> with GOTO %CONFIG% in autoexec.bat for creating optimal memory boot options. MSCDEX and Norwegian keyboard layout stole a lot of memory I needed for games and Scream Tracker :)

Yeah that was good too once it finally came out, although I think it was limited to 9-10 configurations, and I certainly didn't have one per program!

quote:

Anyone remember DesqView?

I knew someone who ran a BBS using it, but it was too expensive for me! Much like OS/2, it seems like it was probably a lot better than Windows in various ways and for various use cases but you had to invest the time to get it working and deal with incompatibilities so it's easier just to be one of the sheeple.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Buttcoin purse posted:

I knew someone who ran a BBS using it, but it was too expensive for me! Much like OS/2, it seems like it was probably a lot better than Windows in various ways and for various use cases but you had to invest the time to get it working and deal with incompatibilities so it's easier just to be one of the sheeple.

I think all the BBS people ran Desqview at one point. I'd be extremely surprised if most of the ones I knew paid anything for it. Or the BBS software.

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Weatherman posted:

I had an AWE32 with extra SIMMs attached back in the day. It was awesome for playing games with MIDI soundtracks and for playing MIDI files, and I miss it terribly. What now bizzatch :colbert:

Try in DOS with general midi support with all the games. I'll wait. :colbert: AWEUTIL.EXE? What were they thinking?

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


WebDog posted:


Hello my PDA of 1998!
These were a bit of a thing around the 90's as not everyone could afford a flashy Palm PDA with touch screen stylus so this was the bargain option. Granted there were beefier models with better calendar features and so on.
And yes 32kb of space to stuff in your life!

Though I'm guessing in 2002 you were buying one of the fancier touch screen stylus ones as these were pretty cheap.

Oh and this

I wish I could find this again. It was a learning maths calculator that operated on the principle of flash cards. It was meant to check sums as opposed to calculating them for you. As an actual calculator it got a bit useless as it can't do negative numbers.

lol you can still buy these goddamned things.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00005T3S8/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?qid=1459951941&sr=8-17&pi=AC_SX132_SY191_QL65&keywords=digital+organizer

also appearantly you can still buy NIB Palm devices? Which is kind of incredible actually

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007...6kAL&ref=plSrch

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Augmented Dickey posted:

lol you can still buy these goddamned things.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00005T3S8/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?qid=1459951941&sr=8-17&pi=AC_SX132_SY191_QL65&keywords=digital+organizer

also appearantly you can still buy NIB Palm devices? Which is kind of incredible actually

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0007...6kAL&ref=plSrch

I directly attribute games on my Palm III/Vx/Tungsten to my drop-off in academic success starting around sophomore year of high school.

Also Treos were the best because they were basically smartphones before smartphones were a thing (and so none of my college professors realized I could access the internet from my phone). Also the Treo keyboards were way easier to type on than the Blackberry keyboards :colbert:

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

drunk asian neighbor posted:

Also Treos were the best because they were basically smartphones before smartphones were a thing (and so none of my college professors realized I could access the internet from my phone). Also the Treo keyboards were way easier to type on than the Blackberry keyboards :colbert:

Counterpoint: that loving ActiveSync thing. It was a pain to set up and half the time it didn't work at all. I always wanted to grab the engineers responsible, shake them, and tell them to make their next device show up as a plain old USB mass storage device so at least you could just move files back and forth yourself (perhaps even using something other than Windows), and then make whatever overcomplicated "sync" bullshit they wanted into an (optional!) layer on top of that.

I never got the chance to do that, but apparently some of them got the message anyway, because a few years later Android devices came out and that's pretty much how they worked. Apple still hasn't gotten that particular usability memo, sadly.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Powered Descent posted:

Counterpoint: that loving ActiveSync thing. It was a pain to set up and half the time it didn't work at all. I always wanted to grab the engineers responsible, shake them, and tell them to make their next device show up as a plain old USB mass storage device so at least you could just move files back and forth yourself (perhaps even using something other than Windows), and then make whatever overcomplicated "sync" bullshit they wanted into an (optional!) layer on top of that.

I never got the chance to do that, but apparently some of them got the message anyway, because a few years later Android devices came out and that's pretty much how they worked. Apple still hasn't gotten that particular usability memo, sadly.

I was gonna say, same except my loving iphone manufactured in tyool 2016

What's worse (or better) is that apple super-duper sandboxed individual apps in 8.x so you can't even pull stuff out of your device with iExplorer and the like

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


Powered Descent posted:

Counterpoint: that loving ActiveSync thing. It was a pain to set up and half the time it didn't work at all. I always wanted to grab the engineers responsible, shake them, and tell them to make their next device show up as a plain old USB mass storage device so at least you could just move files back and forth yourself (perhaps even using something other than Windows), and then make whatever overcomplicated "sync" bullshit they wanted into an (optional!) layer on top of that.

I never got the chance to do that, but apparently some of them got the message anyway, because a few years later Android devices came out and that's pretty much how they worked. Apple still hasn't gotten that particular usability memo, sadly.

Palm OS was designed way before USB mass storage was a thing. Honestly I don't remember having many issues with Hotsync other than it being ridiculously slow, since it was over a non-USB serial connection.

I think some of the later models had a SD slot that you could just load apps to, not sure how that worked though.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Augmented Dickey posted:

I think some of the later models had a SD slot that you could just load apps to, not sure how that worked though.
You navigated to the SD folder and clicked Nesticle.Exe or .bat or whatever and it installed to the phone like on a Windows machine.

Active sync was horseshit, but considering the demographic they were aiming for "Tell the computer what folder to copy to your PDA" was probably their best solution.
AS over Bluetooth was horrible rear end though.

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

Buttcoin purse posted:

Please post a screen shot of your menu.

My DOS menu which my dad created worked like this:



Doing this...

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Checked into a forum I used to post on compulsively 10 years ago. The places is incredibly dead compared to what it was like way back when. The I guy I thought was an awful sadsack 10 years ago is still posting, and still a sadsack. He started there in 1999, and is still at it. 20 years isn't all that far away at that point.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Augmented Dickey posted:

Palm OS was designed way before USB mass storage was a thing. Honestly I don't remember having many issues with Hotsync other than it being ridiculously slow, since it was over a non-USB serial connection.

I think some of the later models had a SD slot that you could just load apps to, not sure how that worked though.

I had an MP3 player (Pine D'Music 32MB) that used a parallel interface to transfer songs. The bundled program woudl copy any folder. So I used it like a USB stick for my University work.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

gently caress your hipster iPhone, my iPaq had gapless mp3s with crossfading, GPS navigation, games and multitasking in 2003 :colbert:

...and it still works 13 years later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtqEZyLb-Os

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Casimir Radon posted:

Checked into a forum I used to post on compulsively 10 years ago. The places is incredibly dead compared to what it was like way back when. The I guy I thought was an awful sadsack 10 years ago is still posting, and still a sadsack. He started there in 1999, and is still at it. 20 years isn't all that far away at that point.

Don't talk about lowtax that way :(

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Humphreys posted:

I had an MP3 player (Pine D'Music 32MB) that used a parallel interface to transfer songs. The bundled program woudl copy any folder. So I used it like a USB stick for my University work.

I used to do this with my Creative MP3 players by zipping the folders I needed, renaming the file from .zip to .mp3 and loading it up. Kind of a clunky method but worth it to use my 40gb player as storage back when like a 4gb USB drive cost over $100.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

blugu64 posted:

Don't talk about lowtax that way :(

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Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul
DOS=HIGH,UMB

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