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I actually really liked how Dave and Terezi worked as a team! It was pretty fly. Took me back to the good ol' days. 
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Still can't get over that Vriska's plan worked/is working, albeit the stuff about the tactics to defeat the Condesce and the Jacks was never really the problem. There was some stuff about how they might've been able to avoid fighting Spades Slick but that worked out okay in the end (excepting that Dirk is dead for a bit, I guess). The real tricky bit was the ghost army plan with a weapon she wasn't sure would work, and whether it works or not either vindicating her post-retcon self as the True Hero after all or failure giving her the final Comeuppance(tm) for her Hubris (also tm), and then we don't find out because the author himself shows up to mess with her. Toxx/Oxx (I'm not going to check which) if you think the update was just an eighteen minute slapfest with no writing to critique, tell me what you think about that poo poo because it is cracking me up.
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The irony is outside the dirk stuff I'm not even really disappointed. I got briefly excited when the best member of the felt (who's literally a better character than jake) riddled jake full of bullets only to be slightly bummed when that was undone, but I don't share anybody else's complaints about the flash at all It was fine I guess? If you're into fighting nonstop for eighteen minutes that sure did deliver in spades. It was kind of neat that all the jacks got killed or deposed. In a way that even more damning: outside of the dirk stuff I'm more or less indifferent to the whole thing
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Ariong posted:I do agree that the Jade parts were a bit excessive. Because we're familliar with how Bec instincts work the same effect could have been achieved if she simply tried to get between them once before being punched out. Three times was unneccesary. Maybe, but I think it's important to show that her strategy was working. Doing it once and immediately getting floored actually would have been a waste of Jade. Almost completing her objective before getting punched is more effective, I think.
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WAR FOOT posted:I sat through the entire flash waiting for the other shoe to drop, and it never did. It kind of did at the end. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about how weirdly ominous that ending was. Everything just cuts to black.
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Dolash posted:Still can't get over that Vriska's plan worked/is working, albeit the stuff about the tactics to defeat the Condesce and the Jacks was never really the problem. There was some stuff about how they might've been able to avoid fighting Spades Slick but that worked out okay in the end (excepting that Dirk is dead for a bit, I guess). I think being annoyed by Hussie and having to punch him in the dick Forever is the exact level of Comeuppance that Vriska deserves.
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IMO, Homestuck is Epic and Good, and so is Collide. My favorite thing is Fraymotifs
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:It kind of did at the end. If Total Recall taught me anything, it's that it only matters when it cuts to white
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Just wanted to mention that the Street Fighter into Jojo (I think?) segment with Roxy is great. And that Casey got another moment in the spotlight! 
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:It kind of did at the end. Yeah, that's true. Maybe they hosed it up somehow?
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Ariong posted:I do agree that the Jade parts were a bit excessive. Because we're familliar with how Bec instincts work the same effect could have been achieved if she simply tried to get between them once before being punched out. Three times was unneccesary. It was Dirk's planet that exploded via Jack English's Code ATA moment. Also I don't get why people are saying Serenity has the space symbol now, it's the same cherub spiral its always been?
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MarquiseMindfang posted:It was Dirk's planet that exploded via Jack English's Code ATA moment. Oh yeah. Well the genesis tadpole wasn't going to be a problem anyway, apparently throwing it into the forge is the normal way of going about it. You throw it in there, you throw the ring in there, it erupts all the way up to skaia, conception symbolism complete.
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Shelby Cragg's taking credit for the Strong Female Jake moment. https://twitter.com/shelbycragg/status/717582454928883712
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And yeah, there really isn't much saving Jade at this point, character-wise. I remember the big argument about counting this Jade as being distinct from pre-Retcon Jade, but despite a few encouraging updates right before this flash, she really has nothing going on this time and everything to do with her and the Becs felt like it was just keeping them out of the way without any character payoff (well, some for PM, but it's been a long time since we've cared about her) or even cool action. There's so very little time left and no obvious direction for her to go, interactions to look forward to, relations for her to pursue... she's basically got nothing I can see in her future except finding out actually Dave's with Karkat now. Maybe once the Green Sun's gone and she's less overpowered she'll actually get to do some cool moves in the final boss fight. Assuming there actually is a proper final boss fight where the four kids appear and fight Lord English, I guess.
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Dolash posted:(well, some for PM, but it's been a long time since we've cared about her) How dare you.
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Ariong posted:Oh yeah. Well the genesis tadpole wasn't going to be a problem anyway, apparently throwing it into the forge is the normal way of going about it. You throw it in there, you throw the ring in there, it erupts all the way up to skaia, conception symbolism complete. Echidna has it, supposedly. The whole Kanaya and Karkat thing was them petitioning her to release it. Release might mean massive volcanic eruption though I suppose.
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Dolash posted:vindicating her post-retcon self as the True Hero after all or failure giving her the final Comeuppance(tm) for her Hubris (also tm) the fact that youre still thinking in terms of this basic-rear end creative writing 101 dichotomy shows your lack of reading comprehension Hope That Helps
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It really is crazy how hard Huss dropped the ball on the exiles Whatever happened to the white queen, btw?
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She got decapitated by Bec Noir in Cascade. e: or presumably blew up with her moon
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net cafe scandal posted:There was a period from roughly 2011 to 2012 where you could post like this on the forums and not be asked to leave, but Im afraid it has long passed. my posting might suck but the point stands friend on a different note here's the person apparently responsible for most of the fraymotif stuff
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 "WHY ARE THERE LITTLE MARIJUANAS IN THE BG"
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Tollymain posted:
...Someone search for snoop dogg in the
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Tollymain posted:my posting might suck but the point stands friend It's a point literally nobody but you cares about because literally everybody but you knew what she meant
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Toxxupation posted:It really is crazy how hard Huss dropped the ball on the exiles This is incredibly true, I mean wtf. That section of Cascade even looked like garbage
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Ariong posted:How dare you. Sorry man, but as someone's already said all Jade got to do this update was set up a character moment for PM where it established she hates Bec Noir so much she overpowered her Bec programming enough to punch Jade out of the way. For starters that's like a third-string character getting their moment over someone who's in theory part of the main four (even if she is the Ringo). Then there's the fact that we already really, really know PM hates Noir. This is only a slightly new development. Considering how long it took to get to that point, it would've been nice to go a little further and make a point with it. Have the fight take the two of them over to where the Mayor and Calliope are so PM and WV can reunite. Have PM not just be angry but consumed by hate and do some terrible thing that shows she's as far gone as Noir, or else have her show mercy to show she's not like him. Maybe these moments are coming but there was more than enough time this flash to get to it and we really only got as far as "PM triumphant", a moment that's been coming since Cascade five years ago.
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Last thoughts before I go to loving bed finally: Still mad Condy got kinda chumped, have been firmly expecting Meenah to steal her life in the most literal sense for quite a while now. She might not be down for the count so who knows. And lack of Vriska was disappointing.
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hello anyone reading all these posts tomorrow, we are all very sorry about it
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Mazerunner posted:This is incredibly true, I mean wtf. That section of Cascade even looked like garbage I dunno if you're being sarcastic but if you honestly expect me to remember the fine details of a flash that played in 2011, well
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Wait, so why was it necessary for Karkat to be knocked out if he was just going to wake back up again before doing anything while asleep?
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paranoid randroid posted:the fact that youre still thinking in terms of this basic-rear end creative writing 101 dichotomy shows your lack of reading comprehension Hope That Helps It might show my inability to convey self-deprecating sarcasm, I guess. I was/am confessing that after years of "okay but is Vriska in the right/wrong? Only whether she succeeds or fails in her next plan will decide!", building up to the one big gamble and then having the author himself gently caress up that gamble is great and I love it. Really helped put this in a whole different light, like maybe the story doesn't have to vindicate a character's personality and choices based solely off of their performance, if Vriska happens to be right about her gamble regarding the weapon it isn't a comment on whether she was "right" or "wrong" of her assessment of her alternate self or vicariously herself. This could even be considered representative of the same flawed thinking that drove Vriska herself, and if anything assessing her by those same standards woulddsfsaghg hhsuhfafhgfdfgwhdgehgeghuewg You should be happy, if you squint and hold it up to the light it kind of looks like you can claim to have been right all along: the actual reason we're here!
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Wait, so why was it necessary for Karkat to be knocked out if he was just going to wake back up again before doing anything while asleep? An excellent question! Here is the answer:
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Toxxupation posted:I dunno if you're being sarcastic but if you honestly expect me to remember the fine details of a flash that played in 2011, well No I'm always 100% sincere
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Presumably Kanaya thought Karkat would dream peacefully instead of charging straight for the final boss and getting his sleep murdered.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Wait, so why was it necessary for Karkat to be knocked out if he was just going to wake back up again before doing anything while asleep? Kanaya didn't know he was going to wake back up again; she's not a seer. She assumed he'd stay concussed until the final battle was over. It was necessary for Karkat to go all-in against Lord English because that was what he had defined heroism as, that was who he wanted to be. Luckily for him, he got a do-over.
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Now they have to find a gold plaque to drop over LE's head and kill him.
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The one thing I certainly will not miss when homestuck is over is the incredibly complicated jargon to explain rote, common storytelling concepts that everyone buys into so you have to remember what the gently caress classpects are and what elements mean
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Some of the artists are talking about what they did on their journals. Toastyhat (you may recognize the name from mambostuck) is here: http://toastyhat.tumblr.com/ Paperseverywhere (Adrienne Garcia) is here: http://paperseverywhere.tumblr.com/ Poinko is here: http://poinko.tumblr.com/ Guzusuru ("Lullaby for Gods"), who did compositing, is here: http://guzusuru.tumblr.com/ Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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==> Karkat: You Got This ==> Karkat: You Ain't Got This You awaken to discover that you never even had it in the first place.
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It was fun but not as good as Cascade. I don't really get why no one is talking about the ending!
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