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Armani posted:Say it with me, class: Elminster. Solve for Ed: *draws a wizard dude, a pretty lady, and a gender swap belt on class board* I too read "the making of a mage". :hifive:
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W Ketchup popped into my head today while I was eating lunch. My first election was 2004 and it stuck out in my mind among the weird petty poo poo from that year. So I went back to their site and they're stopped selling ketchup and replaced their ordering page with a political rant. But the best part is their news page which are pretty much right-wing blog posts masked as press releases. I feel like buying Hunts would've been an easier way to stick it to John Kerry, especially at the prices and quantities W Ketchup needed to be ordered at.
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Cardboard Box A posted:This mandate requires every American to be covered by a health insurance policy that complies with the law’s labyrinthine coverage requirements and restrictions. In 2015, for example, annual premiums for “low-cost” bronze plans obtained through the law’s exchanges averaged $2,484 for individuals and $12,420 for families with three or more children. If you don’t think this pricier insurance is worth the cost, or simply can’t afford it, you’ll likely face tax penalties upon filing your return. if you're really poor, your tax refund more than covers the cost of insurance. if you're not quite as poor, there are subsidies to assist, unless you live in one of the states that rejected the medicaid expansion in which case lol to be you. if you can afford it but have to give up some sort of discretionary spending, buy health insurance for your children you idiot
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Apr 6, 2016 18:25
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I just think the game is poorly written and unfunny in general. its nothing to do with the LGBT stuff it's self. it just feels kinda weirdly preachy and forced in pre-sequel. I prefer show and don't exposition story telling. Its why i like margret attwood books for my progressive lit instead of stuff like that. I am not against LBGT characters existing, i just don't want them to be poo poo.
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Apr 6, 2016 18:39
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I still think the best way to handle gay characters was done by Mass Effect 3. Not with the major plot-relevant people, but with some of the minor dudes working on your ship. You can chat up a man on your crew at one point and ask how he's feeling about how the war against the evil robot Reapers is going, and he'll mention that he's worried about his husband stationed on a planet somewhere. There's no follow-up to this. You can't have Shepard go "OMG YOU'RE GAY???" Nobody says anything further about his sexuality. Dude just happens to have a husband and it's treated like it should be: like nothing out of the ordinary. I was actually shocked how nonchalant the game was about that line. I was half expecting that the game would go into some kind of preachy moment, but no, it's just a dude on your ship who happens to be gay.
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Vitalis Jackson posted:What's with Chris Matthews these days? He sounds like he's gone full-bore Republican. When you start having Ann Coulter on as a regular guest, you cease being a serious pundit. He's still a liberal, he's just part of the beltway media establishment which means he buys into "conventional wisdom" which means to him Coulter is a legitimate part of our political system because terrible people give her a paid platform which means he's an idiot.
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Apr 6, 2016 19:04
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Popular Thug Drink posted:if you're really poor, your tax refund more than covers the cost of insurance. if you're not quite as poor, there are subsidies to assist, unless you live in one of the states that rejected the medicaid expansion in which case lol to be you. if you can afford it but have to give up some sort of discretionary spending, buy health insurance for your children you idiot If you're really poor the tax refund doesn't even matter. By the time I filed my taxes this year I was unemployed and didn't make a whole lot last year (about $20k?) I forget. My penalty for not having health insurance (which I couldn't afford) was waved. But yes, if you have any dependents get insurance. I'd get it for myself but whelp, I'm unemployed and way in debt. My health is my last concern.
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Apr 6, 2016 19:11
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The Ape of Naples posted:I'd get it for myself but whelp, I'm unemployed and way in debt. My health is my last concern. They is why healthcare should be a fundamental right instead of a privilege based on wealth.
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Apr 6, 2016 19:18
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I still think the best way to handle gay characters was done by Mass Effect 3. Not with the major plot-relevant people, but with some of the minor dudes working on your ship. You can chat up a man on your crew at one point and ask how he's feeling about how the war against the evil robot Reapers is going, and he'll mention that he's worried about his husband stationed on a planet somewhere. There's no follow-up to this. You can't have Shepard go "OMG YOU'RE GAY???" Nobody says anything further about his sexuality. Dude just happens to have a husband and it's treated like it should be: like nothing out of the ordinary. right on the nose. thats what i mean. a LBGT character should be a character who is LBGT. treat it as a part of someone sole idntety is that they are lgbt. like I like Joker from mass effect. he has physical disasbilities. as someone with physical disabilities i like him because he is a full charater, not just token cripple. same with oracle in batman. the one thing i get annoyed with the author with the Baulders gate bullshit is they feel way to pleased with slapping herself on the back for writing diverse characters. it just feels weird. i don't like writers who self felicitate themselves to try to look good. write the stuff because its the right thing to do. not because it makes u look progressive. I am into Kantian ethics. sue me. lol Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Apr 6, 2016 19:24
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Dapper_Swindler posted:write the stuff because its the right thing to do. not because it makes u look progressive. See I don't get this. What's the evidence that this is the sole or even primary motivation? I feel like people are really quick to jump to this idea that any expression of support for progressive ideals is empty signalling and I don't understand where it comes from. Maybe progressive writers sincerely think video games would be better and more compelling with more diverse characters and that informs their writing? It's weird to me that people consider that to be somehow different from literally any other personal belief that inevitably informs someone's writing. Hulk Krogan fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Vargatron posted:They is why healthcare should be a fundamental right instead of a privilege based on wealth. I'm totally fine with that.
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Vargatron posted:They is why healthcare should be a fundamental right instead of a privilege based on wealth. That's filthy Pinko talk. Next you'll say we could fund it by not raising the military's budget for once.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:right on the nose. thats what i mean. a LBGT character should be a character who is LBGT. treat it as a part of someone sole idntety is that they are lgbt. like I like Joker from mass effect. he has physical disasbilities. as someone with physical disabilities i like him because he is a full charater, not just token cripple. same with oracle in batman. the one thing i get annoyed with the author with the Baulders gate bullshit is they feel way to pleased with slapping herself on the back for writing diverse characters. it just feels weird. i don't like writers who self felicitate themselves to try to look good. write the stuff because its the right thing to do. not because it makes u look progressive. On the other hand, Traynor. About two thirds of her character is "is a lesbian, wants to gently caress EDI." Of the remaining third, a good chunk is "Let's see how many times we can get her into her lingerie if you romance her, or even if you don't." I've mentioned it in a few other game/tv threads when the subject's come up: while lesbian relationships are significantly more common to see in media than male/male relationships, male gay relationships are almost universally treated far more respectfully.
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Geostomp posted:That's filthy Pinko talk. Next you'll say we could fund it by not raising the military's budget for once. It's like they don't want Jack Nicholson on that wall. They NEED him on that wall!
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Apr 6, 2016 20:19
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Cythereal posted:On the other hand, Traynor. About two thirds of her character is "is a lesbian, wants to gently caress EDI." Of the remaining third, a good chunk is "Let's see how many times we can get her into her lingerie if you romance her, or even if you don't." true. lesbian stuff is always handled weirdly. probably because it can appeal to both genders.
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Hulk Krogan posted:See I don't get this. What's the evidence that this is the sole or even primary motivation? I feel like people are really quick to jump to this idea that any expression of support for progressive ideals is empty signalling and I don't understand where it comes from. Maybe progressive writers sincerely think video games would be better and more compelling with more diverse characters and that informs their writing? It's weird to me that people consider that to be somehow different from literally any other personal belief that inevitably informs someone's writing. it's a lack of empathy, people who aren't generally cool with trans folk or who have had that well poisoned and assume transfolk = taking muh vidya games have that immediate trigger rather than seeing a trans person as, like, a human being who may exist. worse, the people who are so offended by the idea of trans people in video games can't put themselves in the headspace of a person who isn't offended by the idea of trans people in video games, if they could do this they might realize that being offended about trans people in video games is absurd
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Apr 6, 2016 20:32
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Dapper_Swindler posted:true. lesbian stuff is always handled weirdly. probably because it can appeal to both genders. So can gay stuff, can't it?
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Motto posted:So can gay stuff, can't it? true.
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Motto posted:So can gay stuff, can't it? Yes, but gay porn is not marketed towards straight women in nearly the way lesbian porn is to men. If you search for "gay porn" you get porn for gay men, if you search for "lesbian porn" you get porn for straight men.
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DeadlyMuffin posted:Yes, but gay porn is not marketed towards straight women in nearly the way lesbian porn is to men. This is some actually, but it's mainly produced by and focused on East Asian women.
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Vargatron posted:I was actually shocked how nonchalant the game was about that line. I was half expecting that the game would go into some kind of preachy moment, but no, it's just a dude on your ship who happens to be gay. It's a little more significant if you made the mistake of playing as male Sheppard: then you can romance him after his husband dies. Or was he already dead at the beginning? That's also one place Battlestar Galactica fell down. For all they consciously put women and minorities in positions of authority with no one questioning it, you'd think there'd be a few canonically queer characters as well.
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Jurgan posted:It's a little more significant if you made the mistake of playing as male Sheppard: then you can romance him after his husband dies. Or was he already dead at the beginning? well that was early 2000s, LGBT was just starting to hedge mainstream. I can kinda understand why it didnt happen.
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Razor shows admiral Cain was gay, and I want to say Gaeta was too but I can't remember how that was noted.
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Ah, he kissed a dude in a webisode.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Razor shows admiral Cain was gay, and I want to say Gaeta was too but I can't remember how that was noted. Gaeta is kinda meta-amazing, he was the bittest of bit characters that still had lines but the showrunners figured out he had crazy acting chops and gave him a ton more presence.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Gaeta is kinda meta-amazing, he was the bittest of bit characters that still had lines but the showrunners figured out he had crazy acting chops and gave him a ton more presence. His mutiny arc that lead to his psychosomatic leg itch that only stopped moments before his execution was pretty cool.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Razor shows admiral Cain was gay, and I want to say Gaeta was too but I can't remember how that was noted. Wasn't Cain's relationship with the Six shown or at least implied in the show outside of Razor as well? I don't remember. Man, BSG was so good until it wasn't but they still did some cool stuff on occasion afterwards.
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computer parts posted:the future of RWM: Funny, I was just wondering when I'd meet somebody so desperate that even waifus wouldn't take him. Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Comparing Crowder and Walsh I think you mean "Matt Walsh". 
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Speaking of reactionaries in video games, is there a thread anywhere about the hilarious tantrum they threw over the removed Tracer pose in Blizzard's overwatch?
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Polybius91 posted:Speaking of reactionaries in video games, is there a thread anywhere about the hilarious tantrum they threw over the removed Tracer pose in Blizzard's overwatch? The Blizzard subforum maybe? I still feel like we should have a thread for this kind of stuff, but that runs the risk of attracting the very people were talking about. Or maybe a general Alt-Right thread would be better?
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I think there was a GamerGate thread that turned into an alt-right thread, bu it attracted exactly that brand of moron, as well as people who didn't post much of worth while shrieking at them.
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Sephyr posted:I think there was a GamerGate thread that turned into an alt-right thread, bu it attracted exactly that brand of moron, as well as people who didn't post much of worth while shrieking at them. GamerGate was never actually about anything but alt-right raging, so it was technically never co-opted
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There's PYF Dark Enlightenment Thinker, which has discussed the Baldur's Gate stuff recently.
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Zerilan posted:These people could see a news report about someone being sexually assaulted by a refugee, immigrant, etc. and immediately accept it as true, but if they saw the exact same story with a white suspect they'd go straight to victim blaming and claiming it was a false accusation. VitalSigns posted:Also see concern-trolling about gay rights and women's rights when it comes to interning Muslims at home and bombing them abroad. Both of these posts are completely spot-on. They only pretend to care about rape and women's rights when they can use them against Muslims, ethnic minorities and foreigners. Because they're dishonest douchebags.
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Polybius91 posted:Speaking of reactionaries in video games, is there a thread anywhere about the hilarious tantrum they threw over the removed Tracer pose in Blizzard's overwatch? Yeah, some dude on the forum got mad that she had rear end and it didnt fit the character(mostly it was the rear end) so they removed it, and made a much better pose that shows just as much rear end, but it fits her character. so blizzard trolled everyone and all was good.
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King Dopplepopolos posted:Both of these posts are completely spot-on. They only pretend to care about rape and women's rights when they can use them against Muslims, ethnic minorities and foreigners. Because they're dishonest douchebags. this. none of them care about free speech. just THEIR free speech. they are perfectly fine with bulldozing under the "undesirables". its like the safe space stuff and censorship. they dont like it when "they" do it, but its fine for me.
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Is "alt-right" the new thing this week? I've never heard about it.
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Alt-right is the future of the Republican party, and probably conservatism in general. The next generation of Democratic hopefuls will be facing off against Robert Morrows The Southern Strategy is coming home to roost in ways nobody predicted.
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Potential BFF posted:Wasn't Cain's relationship with the Six shown or at least implied in the show outside of Razor as well? I don't remember. Man, BSG was so good until it wasn't but they still did some cool stuff on occasion afterwards. No, the only lgbt relationships in BSG were relegated to webisodes or or TV movies like Razor. Caprica swing in the opposite direction, Sam and a few other characters were openly gay and a big chunk of the first season was spent in a communal relationship house where everybody was married to everybody .
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