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homullus posted:Yeah, I was expecting more . . . Bothans. Or, you know, any. That was the other Death Star
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Apr 7, 2016 16:42
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Bothan stole the Second Death Star plans, not the first!
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homullus posted:Yeah, I was expecting more . . . Bothans. Or, you know, any. Yeah at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they retconned Bothans into "just slightly different humans" because weird dog men might be too weird for the masses. Though this film is about the first Death Star no? So actually there's no reason for them to appear.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:42
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It's not a retcon if bothans turn out to be human.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:45
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Pretty sure Bothans steal Death Star plans as a means of reaching adulthood. To not steal any plans pertaining to Death Stars is seen as a huge dishonour to many Bothans.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:45
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Slugworth posted:In fairness, we don't know what a bothan looks like. Maybe Mon Mothma is a Bothan. Sounds like a Bothan name. Bon Bothma
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El Burbo posted:Bothan stole the Second Death Star plans, not the first!
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Apr 7, 2016 16:45
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Vintersorg posted:Holy poo poo - you really do have Lucas' cock firmly up your own rear end. Dude, you write some good poo poo but the Lucas fanboyism is way to strong. Lucas funded the entire multimillion dollar production of TESB with his own money so he'd only have himself to answer to creatively. If TESB failed his company would have been bankrupted and he would have been finished. It almost happened that way. He took a huge unnecessary risk that could have ruined his entire career just so he could have total creative independence. And then he made a movie that was about as far from being like the original movie as possible, where a significant portion of the run-time is occupied by the main character talking about religion with a little green puppet in a middle of a swamp. If I'm a Lucas fanboy, it's because Lucas is an interesting figure and, in many ways, an admirable person, and I respect him for it. There are not many artists like him living today, who have managed to be so successful even while retaining these qualities. The fact that in certain vocal corners of our culture he's instead come to be overwhelmingly reviled as a money-grubbing hack with no artistic integrity does make me slightly defensive of him.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:46
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Slugworth posted:In fairness, we don't know what a bothan looks like. Maybe Mon Mothma is a Bothan. Sounds like a Bothan name. Having just watched tfa last night I think there was one in the resistance base and one on the new republic planet But that assumes they are still furry looking with weird faces cause I think that originally came from the three now not actually sequel novels Someone do links or screenshots I'm on a phone Also I don't wanna
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Apr 7, 2016 16:47
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maybe Bothnia is the name of the tropical planet and the whole movie is just an allegory of the Bosnian War
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Apr 7, 2016 16:47
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RE: Death Star II plans, I thought Dash Rendar stole them, and Bothan spies (died) bringing them back to Rebel Command...
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The tropical planet makes me think of that place in Mass Effect where you drive around on the beach in the perfectly controlled MAKO vehicle, and then you kill some no-good grumpy alien on your squad who is messing up your mission.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:52
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Terry Grunthouse posted:maybe Bothnia is the name of the tropical planet and the whole movie is just an allegory of the Bosnian War Bothnia's in Sweden. It is neither tropical, nor occupied by aliens. Mon Mothma is a bit ginger for a Swede, but appropriately tall, white, and stately for our Space Nordic masters. More Rebellion racism, sickening
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Apr 7, 2016 16:52
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It's Bothans all the way down
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Apr 7, 2016 16:54
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Bothans are the elite infiltration units of the Rebellion
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Apr 7, 2016 16:59
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Bot Hans are just the droid versions of Han Solo
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Apr 7, 2016 17:00
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Tuxedo Jack posted:RE: Death Star II plans, I thought Dash Rendar stole them, and Bothan spies (died) bringing them back to Rebel Command... Dash Rendar doesn't exist anymore.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:00
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I wonder if this could be the first Star Wars movie without lightsabres in it. Probably not because there will undoubtedly be a Vader cameo. Which will be revealed in the trailers.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:01
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It's probably because the Rebellion starts as Bail Organa saying to his buddies "Let's gently caress up the Empire." Turns out most of his buddies with enough independence to do stuff are human since he comes from Alderaan. Then, when they're able to liberate more non-human planets they welcome those guys aboard.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:06
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Pablo Gigante posted:Dash Rendar doesn't exist anymore. Being able to tell nerds "nope, that literally isn't a thing any more" is the best part of Disney taking over Star Wars.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:08
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The many tears shed over the non-existance of the Extended Universe has brought me many moments of joy in my otherwise joyless life. The moment I realized that Clone-Palpatine was non-canon, I forgave Disney for everything they've ever done ever.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:11
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Pablo Gigante posted:Dash Rendar doesn't exist anymore. Well, they recanonize EU stuff on Rebels from time to time. It's not out of the question that some of those characters get reintroduced. Prior to the excising of Legends from the canon, I always assumed it was Rendar who stole the plans and the Bothans who brought them to the Rebels. That's all I was saying - not trying to start a "this did or didn't happen" debate - if it's Legends it's not movie canon, I'm aware.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:12
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It's not a retcon if bothans turn out to be human.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:14
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I've yet to see an image of a furry dog Bothan that isn't laughable. And I've looked. I dread the day they try to put that awful design in the films.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:15
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The Bothans were the ones who found out about the second Death Star, not the first one. Get your Death Stars right, people! Also, on one hand I think it's cool how we're getting some actor continuity for certain character, but on the other it's sort of strange seeing this woman who is ten years older than she was in RotS play a character who's about 20 years older than she was in RotS. But ultimately it's cool they did it and I hope the JEJ rumors are true as well.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:15
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Mon Mothma's good friend Manny Bahthans.
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Entropic posted:Being able to tell nerds "nope, that literally isn't a thing any more" is the best part of Disney taking over Star Wars. I mean...Dash is still a thing in the Legends continuity.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:17
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Cnut the Great posted:Lucas funded the entire multimillion dollar production of TESB with his own money so he'd only have himself to answer to creatively. If TESB failed his company would have been bankrupted and he would have been finished. It almost happened that way. It's worth noting that self-funding also gave him exclusive access to the money generated by the movie. And that he wasn't so happy with the end result of ESB and snapped back big time with ROTJ with a director that would do what he was told.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:17
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If we are to only go with the movies, Bothans may just be a Rebel callsign for their Special Forces. Might not be a race at all.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:18
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Mothman's Mom.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:20
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I think that the real problem here that everyone is ignoring is that we have another unrealistically strong female character in the lead role. Women can't be strong and cool, it's against the rules.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:21
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BigglesSWE posted:The many tears shed over the non-existance of the Extended Universe has brought me many moments of joy in my otherwise joyless life. I need Han to fight a ferret again.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:23
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jivjov posted:I mean...Dash is still a thing in the Legends continuity. I don't know what that is and I'm glad I don't have to.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:26
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Trailer looked awesome, can't wait to see this movie. Really intrigued by Forest Whitaker's character, his lines were pretty interesting and his costume was very unorthodox. Bounty hunter, perhaps?
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Apr 7, 2016 17:27
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feedmyleg posted:I've yet to see an image of a furry dog Bothan that isn't laughable. And I've looked. I dread the day they try to put that awful design in the films. I thought maybe that one alien pilot in TFA (not Nien Nunb) was a Bothan
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Apr 7, 2016 17:29
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Deakul posted:I think that the real problem here that everyone is ignoring is that we have another unrealistically strong female character in the lead role. Yeah but it's getting a bit heavy-handed.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:30
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Pablo Gigante posted:Dash Rendar doesn't exist anymore. The Outrider still does though, if nothing else.
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Apr 7, 2016 17:31
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Ammanas posted:Yeah but it's getting a bit heavy-handed. All will be set right with the Han Solo movie. He just gonna bro around the universe, murdering dudes and slaying exotic tang
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Ammanas posted:Yeah but it's getting a bit heavy-handed. Seriously, every time I turn around, the gender representing over half the population gets closer and closer to being 10% of the strong roles. Somebody needs to start showing some restraint.
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