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a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

error1 posted:

gently caress your hipster iPhone, my iPaq had gapless mp3s with crossfading, GPS navigation, games and multitasking in 2003 :colbert:

...and it still works 13 years later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtqEZyLb-Os

I would love to see what direction pocket computers could have taken if apple hadn't caught on with the rich idiot crowd.

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champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Were Google working on Android when iphones happened? Otherwise I imagine it would be a lot like the better blackberries - physical keyboards galore!

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

I=B000-B7FF

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Boiled Water posted:

Were Google working on Android when iphones happened? Otherwise I imagine it would be a lot like the better blackberries - physical keyboards galore!

google bought android in 2005 and developed it as a blackberry clone and later hacked in touchscreen support in response to the iphone in 2007-8

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Boiled Water posted:

Were Google working on Android when iphones happened? Otherwise I imagine it would be a lot like the better blackberries - physical keyboards galore!
They were, and they were.



This prototype, codenamed Sooner, was supposedly shooting for a 200MHz processor, 64MB of RAM, a 1.2-megapixel camera, a miniSD slot and a 320-by-240 display with no touchscreen capability. A year later, the iPhone was announced, and so the story goes, Andy Rubin said "Holy crap! I guess we're not going to ship that phone!" and the team went back to square one.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

8 track betamax posted:

I would love to see what direction pocket computers could have taken if apple hadn't caught on with the rich idiot crowd.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

error1 posted:

gently caress your hipster iPhone, my iPaq had gapless mp3s

Because I was a goony goon that listened exclusively to prog rock/metal in college I avoided all mp3 players like the plague out of fear they couldn't play gapless mp3s and everyone made fun of me for it :(

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I had a Motorola Q which was basically that exact Google prototype except running Windows Mobile.

I recall it being a pretty solid phone except for freezing all the drat time. drat you, Windows Mobile!

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

The most amazing thing about that old ipaq is that it still holds a couple hours usage worth of battery charge on the original, decade old battery. My other, one year older ipaq 5450 is completely stone dead though so I don't know what kind of magical hardware they put inside this one

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I dug this guy out the other day and spent some time charging it up.It wouldn't turn on so I thought the battery was dead and ordered a new one. I guess the screen is just really dim after all these years. It thinks it is 2007 and the last song I played on it was Paschendale.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



I don't believe any Iron Maiden is 'essential'

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I, too, have an opinion on music that is different from someone else's

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

8 track betamax posted:

I would love to see what direction pocket computers could have taken if apple hadn't caught on with the rich idiot crowd.

Apple popularized the easy to use, finger based touch UI. Windows Mobile phones had been available in the "all touch screen" slab format for a while. But Windows Mobile was really designed to be used with a stylus, and was a pain in the rear end. Some phone makers, like HTC, even had UI skins for Windows Mobile before the iPhone was released that made them better to use with out a stylus. But apps often still were not designed for it, and resistive touch screens suck for finger presses. Apple's UI was incredibly polished and better designed by comparison.

The thing that always got me about the iPhone, when it was released, was all of the features that it was missing. At launch, it wasn't even what you would call a smart phone. It didn't have apps, GPS, 3G, copy and paste, multitasking, MMS messaging, or video recording. On top of all that, it was only available on Cingular, and it required you to use iTunes on your Mac or PC to set it up and to download updates.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Lowen SoDium posted:

The thing that always got me about the iPhone, when it was released, was all of the features that it was missing. At launch, it wasn't even what you would call a smart phone. It didn't have apps, GPS, 3G, copy and paste, multitasking, MMS messaging, or video recording. On top of all that, it was only available on Cingular, and it required you to use iTunes on your Mac or PC to set it up and to download updates.

And yet it was better than anything out there. The best feature was probably the actually usable, full-featured web browser which had never really been done on previous "smart" phones.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


blugu64 posted:

Don't talk about lowtax that way :(
Lowtax had his poo poo more together than this guy when he was three. This guy has got to be headed for 40.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Last Chance posted:

And yet it was better than anything out there. The best feature was probably the actually usable, full-featured web browser which had never really been done on previous "smart" phones.

If all you wanted was an easy to use phone with a web browser, it was a win. And that was most people.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

WAP was really hard to use, thankfully there are youtube tutorials for this extremely relevant technology now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tlQEou57Vo

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer
Oh the dark days before everybody with internet on their phones what a troubled time.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
-

an actual frog has a new favorite as of 22:18 on Jun 24, 2020

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!
WAP to an address to buy your $1.99 polyphonic ring tones, heck yeah.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Lowen SoDium posted:

If all you wanted was an easy to use phone with a web browser, it was a win.
I've said it before, but that alone was what made iPhone a revelation . not having to WAP you way through a HyperCard stack looking internet on a phone was loving amazing, even if just about everything else usability wise on the thing was bad.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Mechanism Eight posted:

Oh, windows. How quaint
:goonsay:



Not pictured: a working battery

I ran Plan 9 on my iPAQ for a while.

It was actually really nice.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
There was a little thing that came out about 6-7 years ago called a WikiReader. A small handheld thing that could run for hours on AAA batteries with a touchscreen and had millions of Wikipedia articles in it. They seem to no longer be in production, but there was a point that I wanted to get one just to have around as a novelty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fmaBBRhV0

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

JediTalentAgent posted:

There was a little thing that came out about 6-7 years ago called a WikiReader. A small handheld thing that could run for hours on AAA batteries with a touchscreen and had millions of Wikipedia articles in it. They seem to no longer be in production, but there was a point that I wanted to get one just to have around as a novelty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fmaBBRhV0

Was there ever a good time for this? I guess 2008-2009 was a time when not everyone had a smart phone so wikipedia wasn't really portable. By 2010, people have smart phones and unlimited data was a thing then. If I want to access a constantly updated internet encyclopedia, I'm not going to use a device that doesn't connect to the internet.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

I'm sure it was a big hit with doomsday preppers, but it would probably get destroyed by the EMP shockwaves anyway once the nukes start falling

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


mng posted:

WAP to an address to buy your $1.99 polyphonic ring tones, heck yeah.

I remember building a WAP site full of all the ringtones and logos and banners that I could get off the net and offer them for free. As i was a lovely uneducated web developer I did it all in notepad, every file had its own link manually entered. No database at all. drat it sucked.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

There's no way for me to get my sweet sweet Ein Fall für Zwei polyphonic ring tone off my dead gay Libresse-looking Nokia :(

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Cojawfee posted:

Was there ever a good time for this? I guess 2008-2009 was a time when not everyone had a smart phone so wikipedia wasn't really portable. By 2010, people have smart phones and unlimited data was a thing then. If I want to access a constantly updated internet encyclopedia, I'm not going to use a device that doesn't connect to the internet.

They're still making things like this now. It's good for areas that have a low level of access to the internet. An outdated wikipedia is no more useless than an outdated encyclopedia, a lot of stuff in there doesn't change much.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Jerry Cotton posted:

I think all the BBS people ran Desqview at one point. I'd be extremely surprised if most of the ones I knew paid anything for it. Or the BBS software.

Sure, but DESQview seemed like the kind of thing you needed the manual for.

So it would have been best to know someone with access to a photocopy of the manual and a photocopier.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


Sure, if you're some kind of loser that doesn't have an MDA card providing a second, monochrome display for dual-monitor debugging :smuggo:

(I may have that wrong, I didn't have such a setup)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jerry Cotton posted:

There's no way for me to get my sweet sweet Ein Fall für Zwei polyphonic ring tone off my dead gay Libresse-looking Nokia :(

http://www.midis101.com/free_midi/67281/Ein_Fall_Fuer_Zwei

No idea if :filez: or not.


EDIT: Holy poo poo, VLC can't paly Midi?

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 13:31 on Apr 8, 2016

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Humphreys posted:

http://www.midis101.com/free_midi/67281/Ein_Fall_Fuer_Zwei

No idea if :filez: or not.


EDIT: Holy poo poo, VLC can't paly Midi?

That's the worst thing I've ever heard in my life. Why would anyone even bother making that?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jerry Cotton posted:

That's the worst thing I've ever heard in my life. Why would anyone even bother making that?

I guess I need your old phone to dump it's memory manually for the good version then!

EDIT: I probably have the gear to do it somewhere around here.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Through lots of effort and trickery, I am getting some AOL keywords to work (though just typing a keyword name in and going to it does not work; I have to do this strange method of going to keyword aol:\\9349 for example to find stuff)

Most are not loading and many times they freeze the software, but the stuff I have been able to pull up today has been fascinating.







Again these are remnants that are still on there today (barely). A lot of stuff makes mention of upcoming dates which is weird because they are dates 18 years in the past. Not sure why they would not have just removed it or whatever.

Anyway if anyone has any requests for me to try stuff just ask. Unfortunately again I cannot simply just go to keyword "gamepro"; I have to find its AOL URL link thing for it to work. I am trying to get around stuff via other "links". A lot of things I click on give me an error like "you do not have access to this area" or some other bland error, but a decent amount of stuff is surprisingly working.


edit: this is such a fuckin blast from the past but in realtime

Chumbawumba4ever97 has a new favorite as of 09:25 on Apr 9, 2016

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
What is the difference between aol.exe and waol.exe?

Chumbawumba4ever97 has a new favorite as of 05:42 on Apr 27, 2016

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Through lots of effort and trickery, I am getting some AOL keywords to work (though just typing a keyword name in and going to it does not work; I have to do this strange method of going to keyword aol:\\9349 for example to find stuff)

Most are not loading and many times they freeze the software, but the stuff I have been able to pull up today has been fascinating.







Again these are remnants that are still on there today (barely). A lot of stuff makes mention of upcoming dates which is weird because they are dates 18 years in the past. Not sure why they would not have just removed it or whatever.

Anyway if anyone has any requests for me to try stuff just ask. Unfortunately again I cannot simply just go to keyword "gamepro"; I have to find its AOL URL link thing for it to work. I am trying to get around stuff via other "links". A lot of things I click on give me an error like "you do not have access to this area" or some other bland error, but a decent amount of stuff is surprisingly working.


edit: this is such a fuckin blast from the past but in realtime



:stare:

now download zzt gams

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

8 track betamax posted:

:stare:

now download zzt gams

Where was that? I'll look for it.

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Where was that? I'll look for it.

Try keyword....................................................ZZT

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

8 track betamax posted:

Try keyword....................................................ZZT

Keywords not working directly, I have to use weird methods to make them show up. I will try my best.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


8 track betamax posted:

Try keyword....................................................ZZT

Spending enough time on the internet and being asked to go to random things makes me think it's goatse.cx

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