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FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Glory of Arioch posted:

confirmed, he's a :10bux: reddit dude in all likelihood

little old for that, but he is definitely a gimmick

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ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Dadbuck posted:

If you disagree with his evidence, then post a factual response.

Apart from that, your crummy ad hominem doesn't refute his mountain of evidence.

shut up idiot

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


I recall discussion in the last thread about how to deal with Machariel fleets and one idea thrown around being "buy them all."

https://twitter.com/1Ronbank/status/718438147751813121

Where the hell do people get money like this. Christ. Had you asked me a few months ago whether I thought something so niche as an EvE Online gambling site would be popular enough to make good cash, I'd have knee-jerked a "no." I shouldn't be surprised -- Somerblink was huge as well. It is just hard to wrap my head around the sheer volume of transactions needed to amass retarded wealth like that.

What would places like Somerblink or IWI make on each transaction? We talking about a ballpark of, like, 5%? 1%? 0.001% on each user transaction?

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Siets posted:

I read an unironic "freed from the shackles of our sov" post by a KarmaFleet dude in TWR this morning and thought to myself "surely this will be the worst post I read today."

I was so wrong.

you hadn't even read a single post by deadtear or I, so that seems like you jumped the gun quite a bit

Dadbuck
Apr 14, 2008

Hate the game, not the playa

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

(8:38:57 AM) deadtear: hey querns can you directorbot that dadbuck guy
(8:39:37 AM) querns: bupkis



So far, it looks like you are unwilling to have a reasonable discussion about the survival of the Imperium, and the changes that must happen in order to survive. Or the mistakes that got us here in the first place.

While you come up with non-witty responses, and try to squelch a voice of reason.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Potato Salad posted:

I recall discussion in the last thread about how to deal with Machariel fleets and one idea thrown around being "buy them all."

https://twitter.com/1Ronbank/status/718438147751813121

Where the hell do people get money like this. Christ. Had you asked me a few months ago whether I thought something so niche as an EvE Online gambling site would be popular enough to make good cash, I'd have knee-jerked a "no." I shouldn't be surprised -- Somerblink was huge as well. It is just hard to wrap my head around the sheer volume of transactions needed to amass retarded wealth like that.

What would places like Somerblink or IWI make on each transaction? We talking about a ballpark of, like, 5%? 1%? 0.001% on each user transaction?

those sites rely on people with Real Life Gambling Problems to convert their USD into ISK via plex

that is why ccp implicitly allows them to exist until they get too cocky or uncomfortable, somer blink was only shut down because the idiot who runs it posted a mail from CCP's VP of Sales

also lmoa that 1ronbank guy is an idiot, we don't even use machs any more hardly

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Dadbuck posted:

...... goons are dying .....

Also, :smugdon:
:five:

Drythe
Aug 26, 2012


 

VideoGames posted:

This is a bad report:



Remember what I said yesterday please.

lmao scooter you fucktard

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
awful nice of that guy to pay the russians for poo poo we're not even using so good on him being late

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Potato Salad posted:

I recall discussion in the last thread about how to deal with Machariel fleets and one idea thrown around being "buy them all."

Where the hell do people get money like this. Christ. Had you asked me a few months ago whether I thought something so niche as an EvE Online gambling site would be popular enough to make good cash, I'd have knee-jerked a "no." I shouldn't be surprised -- Somerblink was huge as well. It is just hard to wrap my head around the sheer volume of transactions needed to amass retarded wealth like that.

What would places like Somerblink or IWI make on each transaction? We talking about a ballpark of, like, 5%? 1%? 0.001% on each user transaction?

He's the banker (guy who pays out winnings) for IWantIsk that had the whole issue with SMA and then paid off TISHU etc. to go harass them that led to this war.

I don't remember how much they said they made, but the EVE-Bet guys I know said they make a fair amount but, iirc, it's not off percentages for them. Their payments are based off lump sums for the amount of work done during that period of time.

Goons tried their hand at a Somerblink replacement not long after Somer got banned and the site shut down, but I don't know why it didn't pick up.

EVE-Bet is great and you should check it out.*







*This is a paid endorsement.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Apr 8, 2016

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Dadbuck posted:

So far, it looks like you are unwilling to have a reasonable discussion about the survival of the Imperium, and the changes that must happen in order to survive. Or the mistakes that got us here in the first place.

While you come up with non-witty responses, and try to squelch a voice of reason.

shut up idiot

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

i know better than to reply to anything dadfuck (heh, got em) writes, but anyone who says 'The Imperium has become BoB' really obviously wasnt around to actually see BoB.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
im so glad that the whole Evening games poo poo was flawed and stupid instead of getting infinite free money lmbo

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Eonwe posted:

you hadn't even read a single post by deadtear or I, so that seems like you jumped the gun quite a bit

am i being flamed wtf

Drythe
Aug 26, 2012


 
you're being :eonwe:'d

Siets
Sep 19, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Eonwe posted:

you hadn't even read a single post by deadtear or I, so that seems like you jumped the gun quite a bit

No way brochacho. I enjoy Eonwe and deadtear posts. :eonwe:

Siets
Sep 19, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Eonwe used to irritate me, but I think his :eonwe: just grew on me too much. I am now on Team Eonwe.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Unfunny Poster posted:

I think you took jokey posts about poo poo from over 5 months ago a little too seriously.

CR wasn't viable for a lot of reasons for Horde well before the whole "we're going to gently caress them to death" gimmick came around. Same with Catch, and even Querious has its issues but comparatively its a better spot for a group like Horde.

Talk about taking jokey posts too seriously

Dadbuck posted:

(d) Mittani's pressure tactics in Viceroy are having significant blowback
(e) Inability to maintain cohesion of key leaders, FCs in particular
(f) Imperium is big, fat and bloated
(g) Imperium became BoB
(h) Mittani made too many enemies
(i) Goons are not really good allies http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-death-of-imperium.html

http://i.imgur.com/ZQCMOnD.jpg

Unironically quoting Gevlon on SA, your internal echo chamber is leaking

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
aww thanks guys

awesomecopter
Aug 16, 2012

Endie posted:

That is at one end of the range of potential outcomes: a smaller, goonier group gradually shedding some of the shitter J4Dek corps and Waffe presented with some exciting things to do on a long road to recovery. The other end of the spectrum is a successful defence of Deklein and glorious fightback.

If I had to put money on it, though, I'd guess that approaches are being made in the east and the south to secure a soft-landing for everyone who decides to stick with goons and rebuilding behind a shield of Russians. In that version I'd kinda expect the deader allies to widot in. No way would Init, nor do I think Fcon would, but someone like TNT or the remains of SMA after the pending bout of departures might jump at the chance to forget all the effort of rebuilding and hand over responsibility to Goons to bottle-feed them back to strength.

One problem with that would be trying to extract supers. You'd have people like the wrecking crew lurking in Hakonen and Obe for years.

Waffe is the most J4Dek corp, so the next version should not have Goonwaffe in it. It's also not that big of a corp real people wise, I would put the amount of actual actives in Goonwaffe below the 400 mark.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


r/eve:

"Imperium never undocks."

"We are obstructing Imperium Machariel SRP."

:newfap:

Dadbuck
Apr 14, 2008

Hate the game, not the playa

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Talk about taking jokey posts too seriously


Unironically quoting Gevlon on SA, your internal echo chamber is leaking

I don't have to like someone to post something they said.

:objection: The material is true, and valid.

However, you have no response to it.

That is why you are floundering.

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

Glory of Arioch posted:

those sites rely on people with Real Life Gambling Problems to convert their USD into ISK via plex

that is why ccp implicitly allows them to exist until they get too cocky or uncomfortable, somer blink was only shut down because the idiot who runs it posted a mail from CCP's VP of Sales

also lmoa that 1ronbank guy is an idiot, we don't even use machs any more hardly

Shush don't tell him. If he buys all the grindr fleet doctrine ships I'm blaming you.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Potato Salad posted:

I recall discussion in the last thread about how to deal with Machariel fleets and one idea thrown around being "buy them all."

https://twitter.com/1Ronbank/status/718438147751813121

Where the hell do people get money like this. Christ. Had you asked me a few months ago whether I thought something so niche as an EvE Online gambling site would be popular enough to make good cash, I'd have knee-jerked a "no." I shouldn't be surprised -- Somerblink was huge as well. It is just hard to wrap my head around the sheer volume of transactions needed to amass retarded wealth like that.

What would places like Somerblink or IWI make on each transaction? We talking about a ballpark of, like, 5%? 1%? 0.001% on each user transaction?

Most eve gambling sites take about a 13% spread which is in line with real life slots or many table games. So on a 1bn isk raffle the site has made about 130m

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Xachariah posted:

Shush don't tell him. If he buys all the grindr fleet doctrine ships I'm blaming you.

those got goonrushed but have a functionally unlimited supply

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares



I will never understand gambling.

I get it intellectually -- addiction, fun, whatever. People get kicks from it. I will never internally get it though.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Dadbuck posted:

I don't have to like someone to post something they said.

:objection: The material is true, and valid.

However, you have no response to it.

That is why you are floundering.

i have no response to chemtrails idiots either

also shut up idiot

Emberfox
Jan 15, 2005

~rero rero rero rero rero

Glory of Arioch posted:

those sites rely on people with Real Life Gambling Problems to convert their USD into ISK via plex

that is why ccp implicitly allows them to exist until they get too cocky or uncomfortable, somer blink was only shut down because the idiot who runs it posted a mail from CCP's VP of Sales

also lmoa that 1ronbank guy is an idiot, we don't even use machs any more hardly

Thank you. I was about to post about this. I don't play EVE, but I do like reading about the antics. I was wondering how this casino thing hasn't been shut down completely, since it sounds shady as all hell/borderline RMT. So the answer is that CCP doesn't actually care.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Colgate posted:

Thank you. I was about to post about this. I don't play EVE, but I do like reading about the antics. I was wondering how this casino thing hasn't been shut down completely, since it sounds shady as all hell/borderline RMT. So the answer is that CCP doesn't actually care.

actually they care a whole lot because it gets them lots of money

they can't officially acknowledge them as affiliated with the company or anything corny like that but they will turn a blind eye as long as they get theirs

Dadbuck
Apr 14, 2008

Hate the game, not the playa

ChickenWing posted:

i have no response to chemtrails idiots either

also shut up idiot

Repeating yourself a bit much there.

Take a breath, and provide a calm, collected response. No need to come off all angry here.

We're all bros, even if some us don't like the message of truth.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Potato Salad posted:

I recall discussion in the last thread about how to deal with Machariel fleets and one idea thrown around being "buy them all."

https://twitter.com/1Ronbank/status/718438147751813121

Where the hell do people get money like this. Christ. Had you asked me a few months ago whether I thought something so niche as an EvE Online gambling site would be popular enough to make good cash, I'd have knee-jerked a "no." I shouldn't be surprised -- Somerblink was huge as well. It is just hard to wrap my head around the sheer volume of transactions needed to amass retarded wealth like that.

What would places like Somerblink or IWI make on each transaction? We talking about a ballpark of, like, 5%? 1%? 0.001% on each user transaction?

This is the dude who spent trillions on injectors to roll up a maxed character with every skill at V

If you had isk like that and would for the forseeable future tell me you wouldnt rmt that poo poo to pay your mortgage, your student loans, buy a lambo, whatever.

Emberfox
Jan 15, 2005

~rero rero rero rero rero

Glory of Arioch posted:

actually they care a whole lot because it gets them lots of money

they can't officially acknowledge them as affiliated with the company or anything corny like that but they will turn a blind eye as long as they get theirs

Wowwww, holy poo poo that's kind of corrupt.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
A black hole ate the Saranen station. Where do we go now? :ohdear:

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Unfunny Poster posted:

Goons tried their hand at a Somerblink replacement not long after Somer got banned and the site shut down, but I don't know why it didn't pick up

EVE gambling addicts gravitate to one site and one site only because if they are done right they will have their own fake currency or credit system with perks for contiuous patronage.

Once you are the "it" site then you're pretty much set until the server goes dark or you get caught for rmt. These dudes are a little smarter than somer was in that they have layers of protection shielding themselves from rmt stings.

Lugnut Seatcushion
May 4, 2013
Lipstick Apathy

Colgate posted:

Wowwww, holy poo poo that's kind of corrupt.

:ccp:

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead

crew posted:

This is the dude who spent trillions on injectors to roll up a maxed character with every skill at V

If you had isk like that and would for the forseeable future tell me you wouldnt rmt that poo poo to pay your mortgage, your student loans, buy a lambo, whatever.
I don't really care if some guy's paying his mortgage with spacebucks, but it can't be good for the long term health of the game to have someone with an untouchable out-of-game income source that allows them to throw around multiple trillions on a whim.

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

crew posted:

This is the dude who spent trillions on injectors to roll up a maxed character with every skill at V

If you had isk like that and would for the forseeable future tell me you wouldnt rmt that poo poo to pay your mortgage, your student loans, buy a lambo, whatever.

Spent the equivalent of $25k on that stunt too didn't he? Should have invested it or got something real out of it. He's like a poor person who has won the lottery and doesn't know what to do with all the money he got.

Huge_Midget
Jun 6, 2002

I don't like the look of it...

crew posted:

This is the dude who spent trillions on injectors to roll up a maxed character with every skill at V

If you had isk like that and would for the forseeable future tell me you wouldnt rmt that poo poo to pay your mortgage, your student loans, buy a lambo, whatever.

If anyone wants confirmation that :ccp: is pants on head retarded, it's pretty much this. They are turning a blind eye to people that are violating the TOS and literally making tens of thousands of dollars on this game through illegal means, but they don't care because the people in question do just enough to appease :ccp: to stay under the radar. But god forbid if goons do something like Forex to generate infinite amounts of ISK because goons are evil and exploiting :ccp:'s own stupidity and rubbing their dumb faces in it in order to make them fix their own dumb fuckups and not break their stupid game makes us the bad guys. Seriously, it takes goons abusing broken mechanics for them to loving do anything to make this lovely game better.

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal
Pretty soon the people from reddit are just going to begin screencapping this thread and posting it on r/eve as evidence of some kind of goon collapse because people with SA accounts are posting negative things about goonwaffe and all SA users are in goonwaffe and goons are goons no matter the game or organization

checkmate mittens

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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Zephyrine posted:

A black hole ate the Saranen station. Where do we go now? :ohdear:



:stare:

crew posted:

EVE gambling addicts gravitate to one site and one site only because if they are done right they will have their own fake currency or credit system with perks for contiuous patronage.

Once you are the "it" site then you're pretty much set until the server goes dark or you get caught for rmt. These dudes are a little smarter than somer was in that they have layers of protection shielding themselves from rmt stings.

Yeah. I don't gently caress with IWI and use EVE-Bet basically only for big UFC fights.

I don't think they're half as bad as some of the pro-Dota, League, etc. gambling sites but maybe that's just me being more wary of real world gambling sites which is probably dumb.

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