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I don't think there are separate timelines, like in Back to the Future. Time in the shows seems to be singular but non static, but attempts to "repair" itself if messed with too much.
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Xelkelvos posted:I believe Thawne is from before that time period, but after ours (like 2040 or something)
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Apr 8, 2016 18:20
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Bad Moon posted:Go Team Kidnap!!!' To be fair, Rip was trained by the Time Masters who are also terribly incompetent.
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Apr 8, 2016 18:48
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guys a wizard did it and that's that.
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Apr 8, 2016 21:19
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Still fun. Who the hell is Sidney?
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Apr 8, 2016 21:25
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The dumbest thing, honestly. Either Ray has a twin brother he's never mentioned until now, or he has a brother who looks close enough like him as to be practically identical...either way he completely fails to consider that the statue might be of his brother -- again, he knows this brother looks just like him -- until Kaylee spells it out for him. Oh also his brother is also into robotics or something. In fact he could also build technology that Ray invented???..???..?????,.........? Sigh, I wanted Felicity to be Ray's baby mama so that she'd have a secret baby Oliver could eventually confront her about.
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Apr 8, 2016 21:38
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greatn posted:Next time just kidnap Savage and put him in the year 9999, in a volcano. They did something like this in a comic book. Don't remember who transported Savage to some island at a point in time that was about to be hit by some sort of bomb that ironically Savage himself had ordered in that time period.
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Longbaugh01 posted:They did something like this in a comic book. Don't remember who transported Savage to some island at a point in time that was about to be hit by some sort of bomb that ironically Savage himself had ordered in that time period. DC One Million #4. Chronos (not anything like the one in this show) rigs his time travel gear (that Savage had stolen) to transport him back to 1998 right on the spot where Savage had set of a nuke.
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Apr 9, 2016 04:24
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BrianWilly posted:The dumbest thing, honestly. Either Ray has a twin brother he's never mentioned until now, or he has a brother who looks close enough like him as to be practically identical...either way he completely fails to consider that the statue might be of his brother -- again, he knows this brother looks just like him -- until Kaylee spells it out for him. I think the statue is of Ray. His tech made the company so it's in his honor and his goofball brother just came in and sold it. Classic Sidney 
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Apr 9, 2016 04:30
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Rhyno posted:DC One Million #4. Chronos (not anything like the one in this show) rigs his time travel gear (that Savage had stolen) to transport him back to 1998 right on the spot where Savage had set of a nuke. God I forgot about DC One Million. That was the best crossover because Morrison was smart enough to give the writers several different options on what to do with their series (either transport your main character to the year 1M and let them dick around, or have them in current time dealing with one of the half dozen plot threads he set up in the main series, or just write a totally elseworlds year 1M version of your character so you don't have to interrupt your current narrative). Morrison is such a genius.
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Burning_Monk posted:I don't think there are separate timelines, like in Back to the Future. Time in the shows seems to be singular but non static, but attempts to "repair" itself if messed with too much. Hypertime I ain't gotta explain poo poo
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Apr 9, 2016 05:44
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BrianWilly posted:The dumbest thing, honestly. Either Ray has a twin brother he's never mentioned until now, or he has a brother who looks close enough like him as to be practically identical...either way he completely fails to consider that the statue might be of his brother -- again, he knows this brother looks just like him -- until Kaylee spells it out for him. Here lies Ray Palmer. Named for his uncle, to carry on his spirit.
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Apr 9, 2016 06:17
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Don't you, forget about me...
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Apr 9, 2016 08:15
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This is the most incompetent team ever assembled.
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nooneofconsequence posted:This is the most incompetent writing team ever assembled.  ... Okay that's not quite fair, but if we count this season of Flash and Arrow too...
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Apr 9, 2016 10:47
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I thought we'd be getting giant robots like we've seen in the show's very first promos, since it was the future and all. No dice. 
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Apr 9, 2016 12:41
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Rhyno posted:DC One Million #4. Chronos (not anything like the one in this show) rigs his time travel gear (that Savage had stolen) to transport him back to 1998 right on the spot where Savage had set of a nuke. You might be Gideon.  nooneofconsequence posted:This is the most incompetent team ever assembled. Asimo posted:This is the most incompetent writing team ever assembled. I mean, you're both right, but remember there was the big reveal that Rip recruited this group not because of their competence, but because of their irrelevance to the timeline.
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Longbaugh01 posted:I mean, you're both right, but remember there was the big reveal that Rip recruited this group not because of their competence, but because of their irrelevance to the timeline. Plus, there are all these events that go fucksouth thanks to them not being there (Ray's murderbots, Lance not saving Ollie from Grimdarkitis), which doesn't quite make them completely useless. The big twist should be that Rip was irrelevant to the timeline.
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Apr 9, 2016 15:43
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Rip learns that Savage gets overthrown like a week after he killed his family.
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FilthyImp posted:And it would be SO easy to show that together they make up for their mediocrity somehow and become a really efficient team but... I like the implication (however unintentional) that the opposite is the case. Get together a bunch of useless nobodies, they inspire each other and overcome their individual foibles to become a team of... useless nobodies 
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McSpanky posted:Get together a bunch of useless nobodies, they inspire each other and overcome their individual foibles to become a team of... useless nobodies Giving miniaturization tech to a bunch of terrorists 40 years before it's really developed. Proving the enemy's Nuclear Man equation works during the height of the cold war. Helping to release an apocalypse virus 5 years ahead of schedule. And so on. Rip could have recruited a team of hobos with attitude and cycled them out as the died to better effect.
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Apr 10, 2016 00:16
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Have Rip trick Savage into grabbing a powerful artifact that flays off his skin, but survives, then have Savage have his girlfriend trap Rip in a time warp, and make that teenagers with attitude, and you've got a deal.
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FilthyImp posted:If they were just super mediocre it'd be fine. But they manage to actively contribute to a superfucking of the timeline. It was amazing that Rip was angry and refusing to let Ray get his shrinking suit from his apartment at first. Like c'mon you retard, this happened before and that was just with a piece of his suit. Also it involved a super dangerous mission of walking to his apartment and coming back. Rip really is the worst.
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Apr 10, 2016 02:46
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It's going to be revealed near the end that Rip is loving things up on purpose and isn't really a good guy. It's been done that way twice on Flash now, might as well get it on Legends too!
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Mortanis posted:It's going to be revealed near the end that Rip is loving things up on purpose and isn't really a good guy. It's been done that way twice on Flash now, might as well get it on Legends too! I really hope it's not this. Rather, I really am ok with the whole "Rip actually hosed things up worse" ending/angle. Plus that way there's still a reason for a S2, I just wish this Vandal Savage was more compelling, though maybe it'll switch to a Per Degaton who did not get taken out by Savage or someone else. Also, now that I know Rip Hunter is Booster Gold's son...I umm, really want to see Booster involved somehow. Hope that wasn't a spoiler for anyone.
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Ray: But Rip, why did yo ask us to steal Vandal's trench coat? Rip: Because, my boy... I am going to WEAR IT!!!!
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What if Rip's plan is to super gently caress up time to the point that he can actually change things? It seems like temporal inertia is a real thing and is actively resisting any changes they try to make.
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Apr 10, 2016 05:04
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The season will end with Rip shooting the King of Time in the groin with a bolt action rifle.
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Longbaugh01 posted:I really hope it's not this. I'd rather not S2 be connected to this season too tightly if you think that's going to happen (also, I believe that it's intended to be disconnected). Booster being Rip's dad in the comics may not follow into this series as well, and I'd rather prefer that it doesn't come up if Booster gets introduced since it's not something that needs to be brought up.
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I'd hope that "season 2" is actually an unconnected show complete with a new name and cast. Except for Ray.
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Rhyno posted:I'd hope that "season 2" is actually an unconnected show complete with a new name and cast. The Prison Break reunion show is actually LoT season 2.
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ookiimarukochan posted:No he's from the exact same time period as Vandal Savage conquering the world. Either the writers totally forgot major plot points from season 1 of Flash (which is totally possible with these guys) or else they're going somewhere with this. Here's my guess:
This, or something along these lines, would also set up Degaton as next season's time traveling villain.
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Thawne could also just be from a future where Savage never conquered Earth since we never found out about that until after the Flash/Thawne stuff. Maybe something changed.Xelkelvos posted:I'd rather not S2 be connected to this season too tightly if you think that's going to happen (also, I believe that it's intended to be disconnected). It probably won't be as disconnected as you'd assume considering they're going to cater to the mass television audience, not us. Longbaugh01 fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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I think they could redeem this show if they just copied the ending from that Superman episode where they meet Vandal Savage at the end of time where all that's left is just him and a bunch of cockroaches. Savage repairs the timeline by killing himself in the past but not before loving up the timeships navigation. The next season is basically Dr Who/Sliders/Quantum Leap but with a revolving DC lineup. The show is best when it fully embraces it's campy nature. Why not go hogwild and have Rip punch Hitler again or have Snart steal the Crown Jewels or any location on earth rather than some part of the US?
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Apr 10, 2016 06:37
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So long as we get Sarah back on Arrow, I'm good. They can have Vixen, Roy Harper and whoever the gently caress else.
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Apr 10, 2016 07:45
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I can't possibly imagine how they're gonna write these guys defeating Savage at this point.
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Apr 10, 2016 11:43
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How? Poorly.
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Elentor posted:I can't possibly imagine how they're gonna write these guys defeating Savage at this point. That's not hard to imagine, all they have to do is get Kendra to stab him with the magic knife. Honestly, it seems like it's been harder to write these guys NOT defeating Savage in most of the episodes. Rip's killed him twice on screen, and Carter stabbed him with the magic knife already, and it's only because of plot contrivance that they have to go find him again afterward.
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I'm disappointed I have just gotten to catch up on the past few episodes until just now because it means I wasn't here to post "Black Hawk Down!" when Sara knocked out Hawk Jax.
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Elentor posted:I can't possibly imagine how they're gonna write these guys defeating Savage at this point. I swear to god, if they come up with the idea that we and every other logical person had since episode 1 (freeze him up to his neck and stab him in said neck with the knife) at the finale, I am throwing so many clocks at the TV.
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