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Pirate Jet posted:It's not a question of whether they'll ditch Chris Evans, it's a question of whether he'll ditch them. Doesn't his contract end after phase 3? As does RDJ's. They're in through Infinity War, after that all bets are off.
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Gyges posted:Didn't the switch in control of Marvel Movies make a huge difference with a lot of the people who were talking about leaving, or was it just the dump trucks full of money? AIUI it was both the one and the same. Perlmutter was lowballing everyone to poo poo and only RDJ commanded the big checks.
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Kurzon posted:They are not going to ditch Chris Evans. That could them millions in ticket sales. I think they were going to kill him originally but the backstage drama got resolved. He might die in Infinity War though because Marvel knows they need to reboot characters sooner or later.
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Apr 9, 2016 21:55
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broken clock opsec posted:AIUI it was both the one and the same. Perlmutter was lowballing everyone to poo poo and only RDJ commanded the big checks. If you read between the lines, Evans also hated working with Whedon and that was a lot of where his frustration came from. Then he worked with the Russo brothers and was happy again.
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It makes me curious, if that's true, what Evans's issue(s) with Whedon were/are. Guy seems likable enough, just not the best fit for directing the Avengers movies.
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PurplieNurplie posted:It makes me curious, if that's true, what Evans's issue(s) with Whedon were/are. Guy seems likable enough, just not the best fit for directing the Avengers movies. Made him wear the ugly helmet.
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PurplieNurplie posted:It makes me curious, if that's true, what Evans's issue(s) with Whedon were/are. Guy seems likable enough, just not the best fit for directing the Avengers movies. Probably just that whedon's didn't really know what to do with Cap as a character and he's way less engaging in either of the Avengers flicks as he is in his solo movies. or maybe he just didn't like the guy. But yeah I bet they kill Evans cap off not in Civil War but in Infinity War. They've got two dudes lined up to wield the shield and both would be cool, either Anthony Mackie or Sebastian stan, so I'm kinda looking forward to it even though Chris Evans is pretty much the absolute perfect Steve Rogers.
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Guy A. Person posted:Hey now, Spawn was pretty bad but I'm sure with the success of the Walking Dead Image comics will be making a major comeback anytime now! I was saying earlier how it kinda got readable after #120 and I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, and #150 is the point where it basically plunges through the earth's crust.
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Apr 9, 2016 22:21
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Didn't Evans recently say in an interview that he actually wouldn't mind staying on as cap after his current contract runs out if they'd let him
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site posted:Didn't Evans recently say in an interview that he actually wouldn't mind staying on as cap after his current contract runs out if they'd let him Yeah he said that suspiciously close to just after the news that Ike Perlmutter would have nothing to do with movies anymore.
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It also kinda coincided with his debut film as a director being a huge flop.
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Dacap posted:It also kinda coincided with his debut film as a director being a huge flop. As a selfish audience member, if it means more Evans Cap then all his other movies can bomb for all I care.
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site posted:As a selfish audience member, if it means more Evans Cap then all his other movies can bomb for all I care. Same. Evans Cap 5ever.
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Proposition Joe posted:Yeah he said that suspiciously close to just after the news that Ike Perlmutter would have nothing to do with movies anymore. This was the rumor back when it came out. Who comes any close to RDJ other than Evans in popularity in the cast? It would be very dumb of Disney to keep him dead. edit: not to mention that Evans is still one of cheapest actors on that cast for some reason. Viller fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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Viller posted:This was the rumor back when it came out. My man Samuel L, of course.
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computer parts posted:I think they were going to kill him originally but the backstage drama got resolved. That's been the rumor that Captain America dies in Infinity War Part 1 to set-up the stakes for Part 2. People just tied it into Chris Evans just venting current frustrations.
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Viller posted:This was the rumor back when it came out. For TWo big reasons Her personality and charm Get her bigger guns though
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Captain America dying doesn't mean Chris Evans isn't coming back, just that they set up a dramatic status quo for Part 1 of Infinity War. I wouldn't be surprised if IW Part 1 downplays a lot of the original Avengers so they can dramatically return in part 2 for various reasons.
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ImpAtom posted:I wouldn't be surprised if IW Part 1 downplays a lot of the original Avengers so they can dramatically return in part 2 for various reasons. This matches what the Marvel guys have said, that the different IW parts will focus on different Avenger teams to keep the spotlight spread out rather than trying to jam absolutely everyone into a satisfying role in one movie.
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Evans will absolutely "die" dramatically at some point so that he can appear towards the end of IW2 at the most hopeless moment to finally scream "Avengers! Assemble!" to get the biggest hype explosion in the history of MCU theatrical opening nights.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, we could just make him the American Bond. just pick from some of the almost-rans http://www.teen.com/2014/03/28/movies/actors-who-almost-played-captain-america/ per my main news source
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TheFallenEvincar posted:hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, we could just make him the American Bond. That is literally what Marvel wants to do with Tony Stark et all. Just recast and act like nothing's changed.
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Bond's made the public well familiar with the sliding timeline concept too, everything's coming up aces for Marvel!
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computer parts posted:That is literally what Marvel wants to do with Tony Stark et all. Just recast and act like nothing's changed. Actually this has changed again with the ousting of Ike. The official line as of a few weeks ago was that when Downey etc are done they will rest the character for an extended period of time before recasting if at all.
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Where are you people getting all this industry gossip, because I want to read all of it.
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The Cameo posted:Perlmutter was never a committee member; the committee was entirely staffed by Marvel writers. Talent's problem with Perlmutter was more that pumping for a little bit more money once they laid out the budget was next to impossible and he would also often, with Feige, essentially re-edit the pictures without input from them. This is the sort of stuff that has put him at cross points with Downey, who is big on letting directors and editors and other talent do what they're hired to do. It's why his post-Iron Man contract renegotiation gave him things like a full-fledged producer's power on his future Marvel movies (which is how Shane Black even got the chair for IM3 - Downey wanted to pay him back for hiring him at a low point in his career as well as basically guruing the first Iron Man into what it was) and why he's constantly wielded the power he's had in the company to do things like knock his co-star's pay up for Avengers sequels. When Downey slipped into Cap 3 (which he negotiated himself into through Disney directly), Perlmutter wanted to kill his contract since Downey isn't cheap ($30 million and first-dollar gross points - and that's not including producer's pay) and with him joining the cast a lot of Perlmutter's control went out the window (because, again, RDJ in the cast puts him and Susan, his wife, in producer roles as per his standard contract these days). A very concise and accurate recap of the situation. Which is hard to do, it's a mess.
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PriorMarcus posted:Actually this has changed again with the ousting of Ike. The official line as of a few weeks ago was that when Downey etc are done they will rest the character for an extended period of time before recasting if at all. I mean, I'm not calling you a liar, but there's no. drat. way. There will be exactly as long a delay as there has ever been between films starring Iron Man. Nobody who can print money this year is gonna wait until next year to print it.
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Slugworth posted:I mean, I'm not calling you a liar, but there's no. drat. way. There will be exactly as long a delay as there has ever been between films starring Iron Man. Nobody who can print money this year is gonna wait until next year to print it. I'm sort of curious whether the draw is Iron Man or Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man, though I'm suspicious as well of how long they'll be willing to wait to find out.
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I could see them waiting like 3-4 years. That way, you have a year of milking "THE LAST RDJ IRON MAN APPEARANCE", then a year of silent wonder, then they can milk the "WHO WILL BE THE NEXT IRON MAN?!"
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Dacap posted:It also kinda coincided with his debut film as a director being a huge flop. The film was a flop because anyone who knows NYC knows that the major obstacle the female lead has int he film could have been solved by a $20 bus ride.
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Iron Man should not be the American James Bond, Columbo should be the American James Bond.
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computer parts posted:That is literally what Marvel wants to do with Tony Stark et all. Just recast and act like nothing's changed. Teen Tony or bust
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Sir Kodiak posted:I'm sort of curious whether the draw is Iron Man or Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man, though I'm suspicious as well of how long they'll be willing to wait to find out.
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greatn posted:Iron Man should not be the American James Bond, Columbo should be the American James Bond. Peter Falk is loving irreplaceable.
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greatn posted:Iron Man should not be the American James Bond, Columbo should be the American James Bond. Oh, just one more thing, Moneypenny...
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The powers of the infinity objects in the MCU could be likely used to great effect for doing a lot of stuff with casting in future films if they would think about using them like that. Like if Cap does die in this film and in Infinity War or something a character manages to get something like the Time Gem pulls him out of the timestream at the moment of his death to fight Thanos. Or if Thanos wipes out half of all the universe and they eventually fix it, someone accidentally brings back people who died without Thanos' involvement. Reality Gem brings Cap back to life in a last-ditch effort by someone seeking out champions to fight Thanos, etc. Time Gem to re-age various characters to be younger incarnations of themselves (which could give us Kid Loki or younger Tony Stark actors, something with the three versions of Thor being played by a teen actor, current actor and an older actor, etc.) But I could also see Marvel NOT wanting to turn the Infinity Stones into devices just for writing themselves out of corners or retconning things as an easy option. JediTalentAgent fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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The MCU is approaching 10 years old. It's gonna be real weird to hear people say "they grew up on them." 
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People keep saying the Marvel formula works, but I can't help but feel the whole lead up to Avengers could have been more organic. Instead of making Incredible Hulk, for example, they could have a movie where SHIELD use Stark to hunt and subdue Hulk (a better excuse for a Hulkbuster fight). Then follow up with movies where they meet Thor and thaw out Cap (after a movie about Cap set entirely during WW2), adding a new member with each movie. edit: Iron Man vs Hulk would be almost like BvS. General Ross sends Stark after Hulk, Stark realises Hulk is not a monster, Ross gets angry and releases Abomination as contingency, Stark and Hulk teams up to defeat Abomination, Stark and Banner become best friends and work together to find more people like them. The MSJ fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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The MSJ posted:People keep saying the Marvel formula works, but I can't help but feel the whole lead up to Avengers could have been more organic. Instead of making Incredible Hulk, for example, they could have a movie where SHIELD use Stark to hunt and subdue Hulk (a better excuse for a Hulkbuster fight). Then follow up with movies where they meet Thor and thaw out Cap (after a movie about Cap set entirely during WW2), adding a new member with each movie. They could've done that, but it doesn't sound better than what we got, and Marvel is making a shitload of money off their movies, so I don't know why they'd want to.
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It also sounds way more expensive that way. With that way, you have your core group and you're just adding one or two per movie. Theoretically, that means you have that core group in every film. Which would be prohibitively expensive and would also not work when it comes to timeframes since it would be much harder to have multiple films in production simultaneously.
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