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System Metternich posted:Man, German ambassador to Ankara sounds like a poo poo job On the contrary, while you have to sit down with Turkish representatives and listen to their poo poo, you also get to troll them IRL while having diplomatic immunity.
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niethan posted:Heres some great reactions from the AKP Germany Facebook page. Doing 
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At least we can be reasonably sure that Angela Merkel won't appear in the Panama leaks. Simply because I don't think that anybody can imagine Merkel using offshore corporations to evade taxes. By the way, does anybody know how wealthy the Merkels are? Do they even have enough money to do such a thing?
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Torrannor posted:At least we can be reasonably sure that Angela Merkel won't appear in the Panama leaks. Simply because I don't think that anybody can imagine Merkel using offshore corporations to evade taxes. By the way, does anybody know how wealthy the Merkels are? Do they even have enough money to do such a thing? No. She is a lifelong German politician and her husband is a lifelong academic, who might have made some money in the early 90's when he worked in the private sector, but not the "I need an offshore corporation to hide my money" kind of money.
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Torrannor posted:At least we can be reasonably sure that Angela Merkel won't appear in the Panama leaks. Simply because I don't think that anybody can imagine Merkel using offshore corporations to evade taxes. By the way, does anybody know how wealthy the Merkels are? Do they even have enough money to do such a thing? The chancellor's salary is fixed at €15,832.79 at the moment (~9,000 netto). Her husband is a professor, which could mean that he's in the W3 salary group (€5,087.92 in Berlin). Which is more than enough to live comfortably off, but the kind of people who park their millions offshore probably burn through that in a couple hours when hitting the club.
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So apparently Austrians are racist shitbags against...Germans? http://diepresse.com/home/science/4963361/In-Osterreich-ist-Deutschsein-ein-Defizit quote:Rassist bin ich keiner. Ich hab nur was gegen Deutsche." Solche Sätze sind in Österreich salonfähig. Während es bei der Diskreditierung fremder Gruppen stets das Korrektiv der Political Correctness gibt, kann man bei Witzen gegen Deutsche mit Zustimmung rechnen, egal, aus welcher Bildungsschicht die Zuhörer kommen. Abstract of the study posted:Von 2002 bis Anfang 2015 hat sich die Zahl der in Österreich lebenden Deutschen auf 170.457 mehr als verdoppelt. Seit 2007 sind die Deutschen die größte Ausländergruppe in Österreich (Statistik_Austria, 2016a), wobei, anders als bei der Einwanderung aus den Nachfolgestaaten Jugoslawiens und aus der Türkei, Einbürgerungen keine Rolle bei der Entwicklung dieser Zahlen spielen (Statistik_Austria, 2016b). Umgekehrt lebten Ende 2014 179.772 ÖsterreicherInnen in Deutschland (Statistisches_Bundesamt, 2016).
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Quick, nobody tell the Austrians that they are actually Germans in all but name. It would break their minds.
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quote:Rassist bin ich keiner. Ich hab nur was gegen Deutsche." Solche Sätze sind in Österreich* salonfähig. Während es bei der Diskreditierung fremder Gruppen stets das Korrektiv der Political Correctness gibt, kann man bei Witzen gegen Deutsche mit Zustimmung rechnen, egal, aus welcher Bildungsschicht die Zuhörer kommen.
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You are allowed to make racist jokes about countries that are high enough in the privilege ranking, e.g. it's always okay to joke about Americans and Germans.
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GaussianCopula posted:You are allowed to make racist jokes about countries that are high enough in the privilege ranking, e.g. it's always okay to joke about Americans and Germans. Obviously.
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I don't think Austrians are capable of joking about Germany though because it always comes out as bitter, jealous complaining. WC 2014 was a magical time for that, I never knew they resented us so much until then.
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As a German working in Austria: yes, but whatever. The only thing you need to know is that they have a giant, obvious Minderwertigkeitskomplex and it becomes deeply hilarious whenever they're like "du DEITSCHER woast des ned". It's okay lil' buddies. We don't like you either  .
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Some of my best friends are Austrians.
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Austria is like Germany's little retarded brother.
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drat upstarts talking badly about their rightful sovereigns again.
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Alles Erdreich Ist Österreich Untertan
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The article comes across as awfully whinny. Also, calling it racism is inappropriate. The difference between Germany is and Austria is cultural, legal and pretty recent after all and I highly doubt there is systematic oppression involved. And given that much of your own identity comes from defining what you are not, I can understand where many Austrians are coming from. There are about ten times as many Germans than there are Austrians, so there is an immense cultural pressure if you want to detain a distinct cultural identity.
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Cingulate posted:Unironically this. Is there a place to look up the current privilege ranking of a country? I assume a citizen of more privileged country is not allowed to joke about a less privileged country, because that would be racist? Is it depending on birth/ethnicity or on residence/citizenship? Like if Austrians can make racist jokes about Germans without being racist, where would one have to move / be born to make racist jokes about Austrians without it being racist? France? Poland? Bulgaria? Tunisia? Somalia? Gaza? This whole white privilege wasn't a thing yet when I went to school, so I'm a bit lost here.
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goethe42 posted:Is there a place to look up the current privilege ranking of a country? I assume a citizen of more privileged country is not allowed to joke about a less privileged country, because that would be racist? Is it depending on birth/ethnicity or on residence/citizenship? Like if Austrians can make racist jokes about Germans without being racist, where would one have to move / be born to make racist jokes about Austrians without it being racist? France? Poland? Bulgaria? Tunisia? Somalia? Gaza? This whole white privilege wasn't a thing yet when I went to school, so I'm a bit lost here.
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Cingulate posted:Don't worry, it's not hard. Are you German? If yes, there are basically only two rules: 1. don't be offended when somebody makes jokes about your country. 2. don't make jokes. Fixed.
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Riso posted:Fixed. That still leaves Portugal, Spain, Thailand, Ireland and Turkey to make fun of. Don't be greedy.
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waitwhatno posted:That still leaves Portugal, Spain, Thailand, Ireland and Turkey to make fun of. Don't be greedy. I still agree with Riso: his version is a major improvement.
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Cingulate posted:Don't worry, it's not hard. Are you German? If yes, there are basically only two rules: 1. don't be offended when somebody makes jokes about your country. 2. don't make jokes about countries who were invaded by Hitler, or that have ever been colonized by anybody Hitler invaded.
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goethe42 posted:What if I have dual-citizenship/migrational background? I've already given up Catholicism because of the inherent guilt complex, can I keep my german passport or do I have to purge my german half before I can make fun of the Austrians?
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IM_DA_DECIDER posted:So apparently Austrians are racist shitbags against...Germans? 1. lol racism is an overused term 2. lol of course the Schluchtenscheißer need to pick on someone to compensate for their inherent inferiority GaussianCopula posted:You are allowed to make racist jokes about countries that are high enough in the privilege ranking, e.g. it's always okay to joke about Americans and Germans. 3. there exist people who actually believe this
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Cingulate posted:Not Ireland. Channel Islands  I always forget about the god drat Channel Islands. This has always been my problem in life.
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waitwhatno posted:Quick, nobody tell the Austrians that they are actually Germans in all but name. It would break their minds. It doesn't break their mind, but it's the Steckenpferd of the Nazis and the Deutschnationale and thus not possible to mention without being labeled as such. But yes, German, with a heavy slav inflection in the east and lots of incest and retardation in the west.
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Der Österreicher wollte deutscher sein, bis er es war.
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Schäuble is such a brilliant man, it's a pity he will never become chancellorquote:Nach Angaben eines anwesenden „Dow Jones“-Journalisten soll Schäuble gesagt haben: „Ich habe Mario Draghi (...) gesagt: Sei ganz stolz. 50 Prozent des Ergebnisses einer Partei, die neu und erfolgreich zu sein scheint in Deutschland, kannst du den Auslegungen dieser Politik zuschreiben." http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/wirtschaftspolitik/schaeuble-ezb-geldpolitik-mitverantwortlich-fuer-afd-erfolg-14170159.html Well, I guess hope lives on in his son-in-law who will become Vize Ministerpräsident in BaWü
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I don't know if CSU voters really care all that much about the ECB.
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GaussianCopula posted:Schäuble is such a brilliant man, it's a pity he will never become chancellor Schäuble hat Recht.
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blowfish posted:normal voters don't vote because of abstract debt or the (lack of) powers of the ecb, and if they do it's because they're colossal morons who have been riled up by even more colossal morons It's not the debt or power of the ECB that make certain groups of people really mad at the moment but the fact that the fees for their bank accounts are rising and the interest they get on their savings is falling.
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blowfish posted:normal voters don't vote because of abstract debt or the (lack of) powers of the ecb, and if they do it's because they're colossal morons who have been riled up by even more colossal morons Die EZB-Zinspolitik ist dafür verantwortlich, dass die private Altersvorsorge aller Wenig- und Geringverdiener unumkehrbar beschädigt ist und das verstimmt die Leute verständlicherweise.
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poo poo is gonna get real http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/tuerkei-fordert-strafprozess-gegen-jan-boehmermann-14170688.html I kinda hope he gets 3 years jail for it, just because that would be really funny.
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GaussianCopula posted:because that would be really funny.
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GaussianCopula posted:poo poo is gonna get real http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/tuerkei-fordert-strafprozess-gegen-jan-boehmermann-14170688.html Welcome to § 185. However, he won't be getting jail time, since jail time is only given when the insult is done by way of actually doing something to Erdogan's body. To get jail Böhmermann will need to throw a cake.
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Cingulate posted:Your argument compels me. Well, if you want a deeper argument, here you go: His satire was basically "I'm now going to demonstrate to you how to do something that is forbidden by law, look at me being edgy", which means you could argue it's fine to deny the holocaust if you start your speech with a disclaimer like his. Furthermore it would only enhance his art project if he went to jail, because it would serve as a demonstration that real "Schmähkritik" is forbidden in Germany, which in turn means that the extra3 song was something other than an derogatory insult. Mithaldu posted:Welcome to § 185. Maybe you want to meet my friend §103, which allows jail for up to 3 years without physicality. GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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GaussianCopula posted:Maybe you want to meet my friend §103, which allows jail for up to 3 years without physicality. 
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