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it's like, a small field of cup drivers/development drivers in cup teams than a massive Nothing. the midfield is like, gone
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Apr 10, 2016 16:24
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Did anyone even watch the race? I fell asleep before the Green Flag and woke up at 2 AM EST
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Alain Post posted:well that's really just a semantic difference, "top series" is kind of arbitrary, after all. lots of Kyle's older Nationwide/Busch wins came against a grid that was far stronger than we have today will power is really working hard to make that era look not totally garbage
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Alain Post posted:it's like, a small field of cup drivers/development drivers in cup teams than a massive Nothing. the midfield is like, gone I kinda always thought 3 national level touring series was a bit much, they should probably kill one tbh
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Apr 10, 2016 16:27
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be nice wicka posted:will power is really working hard to make that era look not totally garbage Justin Wilson did OK, then he lost his mind.
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Apr 10, 2016 16:51
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VikingSkull posted:I kinda always thought 3 national level touring series was a bit much, they should probably kill one tbh I disagree. 3 national level touring series with distinct schedules, driver/sponsor pools, cost levels, rule packages, teams and media coverage are one thing. 3 national level touring series that race the same tracks at the same weekend, with the same drivers winning and with very similar rules packages is another, and is unsustainable.
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Boomer The Cannon posted:Justin Wilson did OK, then he lost his mind. i get it. because he died of head trauma
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Apr 10, 2016 16:57
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Boomer The Cannon posted:I disagree. 3 national level touring series with distinct schedules, driver/sponsor pools, cost levels, rule packages, teams and media coverage are one thing. bring back GNS being the east series and the trucks being the west series
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if NASCAR could replicate the insanity of cup road course races every weekend they would drive all other sports out of business
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does anyone remember the totally insane rumor in the mid-90s that NASCAR was going to eliminate Trucks AND GNS, split Winston Cup, and just make two top level NASCAR series, one on the east coast and one on the west coast
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I do, and simmed many a NR3 season on that premise.
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Apr 10, 2016 17:34
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VikingSkull posted:better to not care IMO Good advice in general.
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Alain Post posted:well that's really just a semantic difference, "top series" is kind of arbitrary, after all. lots of Kyle's older Nationwide/Busch wins came against a grid that was far stronger than we have today The 1996-1999ish IRL Field trumps both. There was a lot talent in the CCWS field honestly. 07 had Pagenaud, Power, Bourdais, Rahal and Wilson. Every one of those guys found success within the current form of the sport, and is still finding success to this day. Anyways, I'll shut up about AOWR. Alain Post posted:does anyone remember the totally insane rumor in the mid-90s that NASCAR was going to eliminate Trucks AND GNS, split Winston Cup, and just make two top level NASCAR series, one on the east coast and one on the west coast That would have been a good idea in retrospect. Boomer The Cannon posted:I disagree. 3 national level touring series with distinct schedules, driver/sponsor pools, cost levels, rule packages, teams and media coverage are one thing. I always felt it'd be best for NASCAR to buy up the complete rights to whatever is left of the Trans Am Series, merge it with XFS, and then have said series just run road courses. Camaros, Chargers, Mustangs and perhaps something from Subaru/Toyota running at places like Mid Ohio would be awesome. Hell you can even use it as an excuse to open the sport up to new "foriegn" manufacturers.
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VikingSkull posted:this is the post where I point out that drivers always used it as a test session, and also that we have historically low levels of Cup drivers in the lower series Man people bitched about Mark Martin doing it all the time.
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FuzzySkinner posted:There was a lot talent in the CCWS field honestly. yeah, but if you exclude power, do any of those drivers come anywhere close to the level of harvick or busch?
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Uncle Jam posted:Man people bitched about Mark Martin doing it all the time. Martin and the other Cup level drivers only ever raced half the schedule at least individually. Busch usually runs 3/4 of the NXS schedule and had been running the same amount for trucks until a few years ago. Now it's just half for trucks.
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Slickdrac posted:Martin and the other Cup level drivers only ever raced half the schedule at least individually. Busch usually runs 3/4 of the NXS schedule and had been running the same amount for trucks until a few years ago. Now it's just half for trucks. Martin and Burton were also beatable. I think they won only like 9 NXS races in 1997 between them and Bobby Labonte. Jeff Gordon Buschwacked in 1999 and 2000 and, aside from winning Phoenix in '99 (a race he wasn't supposed to run) and Homestead in 2000 (his last NXS race), was unremarkable. e2- Ok, he did better than I remembered. In 1999, Gordon finished: -4th at Vegas behind Martin, Joe Nemechek (who never bothered me in NXS because he didn't do much in Cup), and Burton -13th at Texas -Blew up at Charlotte -2nd to series regular Junyer at Michigan -2nd to Michael Waltrip at Charlotte (same boat as Nemechek) -Won Phoenix 2000: -18th at Vegas -Blew up at Texas -4th at Charlotte behind Burton, Martin, and series regular Jeff Green -7th at Michigan behind Todd Bodine, Mikey, both Burtons, Mike McLaughlin, and an unknown named Jimmie Johnson -Won Homestead e- Actually, isn't Kyle only going to run a handful of Truck races? His first appearance was Martinsville and I thought I heard it was only going to be a few. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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He's only running 6 truck races, fortunately.
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FuzzySkinner posted:The 1996-1999ish IRL Field trumps both. Transam should be able to survive in and of itself. The transam series we have now is more comparable to ARCA dollar-wise. Xfinity should be a semi-pro division, where drivers are learning the finer points of speedway racing yet reaching out to non-Cup markets as well.
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Boomer The Cannon posted:The transam series we have now is more comparable to ARCA dollar-wise. thats being very generous to trans-am
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Trans-Am is a glorified SCCA class in TYOOL 2016
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Xfinity Heats debut this weekend. Normal qualifying sets the field, then it's basically the Gatorade Duels to determine starting positions for the A-Main. Also, the two highest finishing NXS regulars in each heat become Dash 4 Cash eligible, and two heat wins in the course of a season clinch a Chase spot
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http://www.fox4news.com/news/120871197-story I always imagine guys like the Duck Dynasty types to be aliens posing as southerners like Bubba Plumber from Squidbillies. What an asshat.
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://www.fox4news.com/news/120871197-story 
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Uncle Jam posted:Man people bitched about Mark Martin doing it all the time. You still do. E: To add re: bigot, I'm sure that contingent saying "If you don't like guns and Jesus, get out", would support the burning of gay people in the infield followed by the stoning of women who had abortions immediately after that prayer, all while shouting about what an oppressed minority they are. Elitist Bitch fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:I always felt it'd be best for NASCAR to buy up the complete rights to whatever is left of the Trans Am Series, merge it with XFS, and then have said series just run road courses. So Grand-Am.
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Peanut President posted:So Grand-Am. Kinda. Actually drat...I have to find it, but someone did a "NASCARS OF THE FUTURE" magazine cover and it was literally modern day DP's decked out with STP and Goodwrench stuff. Made in 1985 or so IIRC.
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Xfinity race was worth watching almost just for Carl Edwards goofing off in the booth. e: daslog posted:Did anyone even watch the race? I fell asleep before the Green Flag and woke up at 2 AM EST Yeah, it was shaping up to be a good race and then Carl had tyre problems, Truex's team did whatever the gently caress they decided to do and then it was just Kyle at the front. Junior looked like he was going to cry at the end there. Oh and a big wreck. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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I'm not the biggest Jenna Fryer fan, but this actually makes me angry http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/04/13/duck-dynasty-stars-nascar-prayer-enrages-liberals.html?intcmp=hphz03 quote:The Associated Press auto racing writer accused Brother Phil of pushing an agenda – and accused NASCAR of “clouding its image with politics.” Yes Todd what WOULD a person that has covered the sport since 2001 know about NASCAR? loving moron.
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Maybe the guy praying before the race should actually like say something about the race and not use it as a stage to show off his disgusting world view but that's just me.
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i dont understand duck dynasty or why people watch it that is my input in the convo watched like 20 laps of the race last weekend then went and got a burger ok cya pals
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There are some tracks where as the cars have gotten faster with more horsepower, the racing has declined. The obvious example is some of those cookie cutter 1.5 milers that sprang up in the late 90s that actually produced really close racing for a while. Ironically, I don't think there ever really was super great racing at Texas because it's so loving fast that no matter what you do there's always going to be aero problems, so in terms of the race it was just a usual texas race, although there were some troubles getting around cars, but you really could if you wanted to. I think it was just not an amazing race due to two of the three contenders having troubles at the end.
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all this super great racing everyone talks about never existed my entire lifetime, the NASCAR season has consisted of 75% nap inducing races, 20% good races, and 5% awesome race
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VikingSkull posted:all this super great racing everyone talks about never existed A good post. To be fair though? The TV coverage did indeed make it very bearable to watch. Guys like Squier, Gold, Jenkins, Baker, Jarrett and BP were almost ARTISTS in keeping someone tuned in at times.
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the ratio from 2008-2015 was far worse, IMO. The COT/high-spoiler G6es were awful, awful cars. like I can take bad races if I at least think I'm going to get a good one every few weeks, yeah? the last season I watched completely, 2013 was just mind-numbing. every race was just so god drat awful.
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Alain Post posted:the ratio from 2008-2015 was far worse, IMO. The COT/high-spoiler G6es were awful, awful cars. Yeah for sure. Current rules package is a step in the right direction for sure.
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