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YeOldeButchere posted:Wait, like some captains actually went "gently caress you sub and gently caress your torpedoes; all crew ramming speed motherfuckers! Fun fact: The RMS Olympic, sister ship to the infamous Titanic, served as a troop transport during the First World War and is credited as the largest ship in history to sink a submarine. How, you might ask? Take one guess.  
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Fun fact: The RMS Olympic, sister ship to the infamous Titanic, served as a troop transport during the First World War and is credited as the largest ship in history to sink a submarine. How, you might ask? That dazzle camo is super effective.
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Never knew what hit 'em.
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YeOldeButchere posted:Never knew what hit 'em. Actually they did-apparently the sub was in the process of attempting to fire their torpedoes when they were spotted and the Olympic turned towards them. (Which, if anything, makes the story even more )
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Apr 10, 2016 04:43
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gradenko_2000 posted:Is the Surcouf modeled in this game? Has a player ever managed to do something cool with it, like maybe beat the Tone in a gun duel? GenHavoc went nuts with it in the submarine simulator boardgame.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Actually they did-apparently the sub was in the process of attempting to fire their torpedoes when they were spotted and the Olympic turned towards them. (Which, if anything, makes the story even more Was this after people had figured out that the Titanic would have survived* a head-on collision with the iceberg which would fill a few forward flotation areas but leave the majority of the flotation areas safe. Instead the Titanic hit the iceberg along the side, rupturing many flotation areas and causing a failure cascade. Getting hit head on with a torp would hurt but not instantly kill a Titanic class ship, at least compared to getting hit broadside. *Either limped home or at least stayed afloat long enough for a proper evacuation edit: also, did the Olympic fix the problem the Titanic had where the double hulls were not sealed at the top Also, Grey, congratulations on the increased number of troops in the Hunter squad. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Actually they did-apparently the sub was in the process of attempting to fire their torpedoes when they were spotted and the Olympic turned towards them. (Which, if anything, makes the story even more Just imagine standing on the bridge and seeing that thing bearing down on you.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Is the Surcouf modeled in this game? Has a player ever managed to do something cool with it, like maybe beat the Tone in a gun duel? It's in Focus Pacific. I've never had much success with it, but that could very well be because I'm terrible rather than be a reflection of its usefulness.
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Apr 10, 2016 07:49
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How did they not see it coming is the question.
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CannonFodder posted:Was this after people had figured out that the Titanic would have survived* a head-on collision with the iceberg which would fill a few forward flotation areas but leave the majority of the flotation areas safe. Instead the Titanic hit the iceberg along the side, rupturing many flotation areas and causing a failure cascade. Getting hit head on with a torp would hurt but not instantly kill a Titanic class ship, at least compared to getting hit broadside. Icebergs can't tear steel beams.
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srusnak102 posted:How did they not see it coming is the question. "drat, if only there was a direction we could go that big basterd couldnt follow" In all seriousness, they did see it coming. They just weren't able to move fast enough to avoid it. Ikasuhito fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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Surcouf has the problem that it's big, so easy to see on active sonar, and slow to submerge, which means it's in trouble if it gets seen on the surface
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The big boats just don't like sinking.
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Ramming speed!quote:HMNZS Moa and Kiwi: Unable to penetrate the I-1's armour with their deck guns, the New Zealand minesweepers rammed and chased her in to shallow water, eventually forcing her to run aground on the reef at Kamimbo Bay, Guadalcanal    
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   Our carriers run into a liner. Unsurprisingly, no shots are fired, but the Allies will know where the Kido Butai is.  We've occupied New Britain without a fight, and the Allies are bombing it.  Batavia should fall soon.  The new batteries go into action at Singapore. This is a nice day's shooting, and if we can keep this up, we can soften them up nicely.   The Swordfish is still prowling.   We see lots of bombers over Luganville – three waves of B-17's and the Liberators.   Not much more to comment on.  Are American subs getting dangerous? Perish the thought.
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I don't know what that liner is, but those cruiser captains should have more ambition.
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CannonFodder posted:edit: also, did the Olympic fix the problem the Titanic had where the double hulls were not sealed at the top iirc after the Titanic disaster the Olympic added a double hull that was absent from the Titanic and raised the bulkheads up to B Deck from E Deck.
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Apr 10, 2016 18:32
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Actually it was the Olympic that was sunk, the Titanic had been secretly replaced by the Olympic just prior to her maiden voyage and intentionally sunk by the White Star Line for the insurance! This is a real conspiracy theory that people believe. 
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goatface posted:I don't know what that liner is, but those cruiser captains should have more ambition. 'course, there is some basis in realism for this, as in the case of battleships being sent on a shore bombardment mission having a sea battle and then not having the correct type of shell loaded, but yeah, you're not going to see those cruisers pursue that lone undefended passenger liner because they're in an Air Combat TF.
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Slap a couple of long lances in the ocean.
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Veloxyll posted:yup. and Air Combat TFs primary mission is to keep the carriers safe. So they will flee from even lone liners rather than give them a few volleys. Because Gunfire prevents them from disengaging due to it being kind of visible. theamazingchris posted:iirc after the Titanic disaster the Olympic added a double hull that was absent from the Titanic and raised the bulkheads up to B Deck from E Deck. and then... Shimrra Jamaane posted:Actually it was the Olympic that was sunk, the Titanic had been secretly replaced by the Olympic just prior to her maiden voyage and intentionally sunk by the White Star Line for the insurance!  CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Apr 11, 2016 15:43
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I assume it was night if it was only spotted at 10k yards. Still, destroyers full of the best torpedoes of the war, and they're refusing to fling a couple at what could be a juicy troopship.
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  The first sleep deprived update begins – the rest of the war will be fought on minimal sleep, which will be role-played as serous inter-service rivalries and incompetence amongst generals. Today is done on a nice 4 hours after two days with three hours between them. (7 hours in a three day period.) Oh, and Luganville is bombed again.  In an experiment to conserve fuel, the Kiddo Butai is docked up – they get a hit on day one though.  They will have to deal with threats like this, but I'm sure they can survive.  I think we'll come out on top here anyway.  Its not like Falcons are the most scary attack planes anyway.....  The Kido Butai on the other hand, begins to sink the Royal Navy.  We hit the Wrong Enterprise – but I'll take it!  Boom!  While nice, I kind wish these were hitting the crusiers.  That's more like it!  And down she goes!  Today just gets better and better!  The artillery war in Singapore is now going our way – and can only get better as fresh troops arrive down the Mersing road.  We are unopposed here, but its still another base.   Oh yeah baby!  Things are coming up Grey!  SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK!  We added four bases, worth nearly 100 points, we killed three hundred points worth of enemy ground troops and three ships. With more likely to come tomorrow. This may be a fluke, but it feels drat good!
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Yessss, raid the gently caress out of Surabaya.
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Today was a good day.
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Proper Croctopus Spirit!
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My lucky ship. Pensacola.
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I look forward to your unconditional surrender being signed on my lucky CV-6 at the end of the war  (Nice cruiser kills, that always feels good)
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Grey Hunter posted:the rest of the war will be fought on minimal sleep, which will be role-played as serous inter-service rivalries and incompetence amongst generals.
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Congrats Duckaerobics! You are the 2nd Lucky Ship casualty! Edit: Reminder: Just because your ship sunk doesn't mean you can't claim again, and claims are open until the LP ends/dies. Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Actually it was the Olympic that was sunk, the Titanic had been secretly replaced by the Olympic just prior to her maiden voyage and intentionally sunk by the White Star Line for the insurance! I'm going to regret asking this question but: according to these nuts, why was performing the switch fundamental to committing insurance fraud?
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Grey Hunter posted:The first sleep deprived update begins – the rest of the war will be fought on minimal sleep, which will be role-played as serous inter-service rivalries and incompetence amongst generals. Today is done on a nice 4 hours after two days with three hours between them. (7 hours in a three day period.) The absolute best parenting advice that was ever given to my wife and me when our first child was born was if it is at all practical: instead of taking turns within each night getting up with the baby, take turns for entire nights. That way, every other night you're guaranteed some uninterrupted sleep. It worked wonders with our firstborn who was tough to get back to sleep. Our second kid is super easy to get back down at night, we were unprepared for that.
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Pensacola nooooo! You're supposed to survive the torpedo and being on fire for 12 hours, not die.
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Omobono posted:I'm going to regret asking this question but: Dont be absurd. Next you will ask why someone would make a giant hologram of the moon or make up native American culture* To answer your question, the idea is that the Olympia had been damaged in a collision with another ship before the sinking which was blamed on the Olympia, thus White star,s insures refused to pay out.As such they would send the damaged Olympia out as the Titanic, allowing them to dispose of a ship too damaged to economically repair and get the insurance payment for a "brand new" ship. Or some-such, its so loving stupid it hurts my head. *Yes really
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"Yes, the print on the china says Olympic, and so do all the signs, it's just, uh, an unfortunate typo. Now let me guide you to your cabin, please don't mind the gaping hole in the billiard room or the buckled walls in the second class corridor, details like that won't matter to you soon enough." *wink*
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Nth Doctor posted:The absolute best parenting advice that was ever given to my wife and me when our first child was born was if it is at all practical: instead of taking turns within each night getting up with the baby, take turns for entire nights. That way, every other night you're guaranteed some uninterrupted sleep. We did this as well, with the understanding that if you just couldn't take it anymore to wake up the spouse and switch off. The first 6 months are the hardest. After that it's all downhill.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Actually it was the Olympic that was sunk, the Titanic had been secretly replaced by the Olympic just prior to her maiden voyage and intentionally sunk by the White Star Line for the insurance! Ikasuhito posted:Dont be absurd. Next you will ask why someone would make a giant hologram of the moon or make up native American culture* Is the answer to who started all three of these conspiracy theories "David Icke"?
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