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Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

causticBeet posted:

can we just purge fcon and call it a day

they are purging themselves tbh

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Dr. Pangloss
Apr 5, 2014
Ask me about metaphysico-theologo-cosmolo-nigology. I'm here to help!
Wow, this thread is nearly as bad as Reddit. Logged in expecting all my towers to be reinforced. Nope, just fine. I'm guessing Dek will burn soon enough, but I'll put a few more billion out of these towers before that happens.

So much for building a coalition with all these pubbie hordes so that when the next great war comes, we have the numbers to face them... And to think, we could have been farming CO2/SMA/LAWN this whole time. That's the greatest tragedy in this whole episode.

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

almighty posted:

How's that again?

Entering warp ends the cycle of weapons early. It's not really a new thing, it came up in this thread before when there was talk of overheating. Also don't quote the disney porn drawer.

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

Dr. Pangloss posted:

Wow, this thread is nearly as bad as Reddit. Logged in expecting all my towers to be reinforced. Nope, just fine. I'm guessing Dek will burn soon enough, but I'll put a few more billion out of these towers before that happens.

So much for building a coalition with all these pubbie hordes so that when the next great war comes, we have the numbers to face them... And to think, we could have been farming CO2/SMA/LAWN this whole time. That's the greatest tragedy in this whole episode.

The situation is pretty bad at this point, and losing Dek I think is a foregone conclusion. I really do think if GSF leadership was strong enough you guys could have mounted a fierce resistance and caused massive mbc casualties. You certainly have the resources and numbers. If you're implying the situation is somehow "good" because your particular towers aren't RF'ed yet then... :ohdear:

I know this might be a lovely thing to say, but I think resolve, leadership, and willpower were lacking. Dek and other regions might have burned anyway, but it would have been a war, not a one sided fiasco. In this instance, MBC had the willpower and drive and numbers and organization to prosecute a war that the imperium couldn't. (Or just wouldn't. "Boring" people to death in this case as a strategy demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of both game mechanics, and MBC motivations)

That isn't to say goonswarm is going anywhere or dying, simply speaking in terms of this conflict.

Kimsemus fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 10, 2016

Dr. Pangloss
Apr 5, 2014
Ask me about metaphysico-theologo-cosmolo-nigology. I'm here to help!

Kimsemus posted:

If you're implying the situation is somehow "good" because your particular towers aren't RF'ed yet then... :ohdear:

Can you read?

Dr. Pangloss posted:

I'm guessing Dek will burn soon enough, but I'll put a few more billion out of these towers before that happens.

pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.

Dr. Pangloss posted:

So much for building a coalition with all these pubbie hordes so that when the next great war comes, we have the numbers to face them... And to think, we could have been farming CO2/SMA/LAWN this whole time. That's the greatest tragedy in this whole episode.

:colbert:

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

Dr. Pangloss posted:

Can you read?

No part of your terrible post made any sense, starting with:

Dr. Pangloss posted:

Wow, this thread is nearly as bad as Reddit. Logged in expecting all my towers to be reinforced. Nope, just fine.

And ending with:

Dr. Pangloss posted:

So much for building a coalition with all these pubbie hordes so that when the next great war comes, we have the numbers to face them... And to think, we could have been farming CO2/SMA/LAWN this whole time. That's the greatest tragedy in this whole episode.


:frogout:

Dr. Pangloss
Apr 5, 2014
Ask me about metaphysico-theologo-cosmolo-nigology. I'm here to help!

Kimsemus posted:

No part of your terrible post made any sense, starting with:

And ending with:

:frogout:

Wrong, it all made sense. You don't make sense. Don't post shame. :getin: :heysexy: :bahgawd:

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Lugnut Seatcushion
May 4, 2013
Lipstick Apathy

nice meme

dragonstalking
Oct 6, 2013

by Shine
It's hilarious that mittens won't stop talking about ~the saranen papers~ while everything literally burns around them.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



dragonstalking posted:

It's hilarious that mittens won't stop talking about ~the saranen papers~ while everything literally burns around them.

Because things against the TOS are more controversial.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb
the war seems to be over before it even really got going, which is kinda sad

dragonstalking
Oct 6, 2013

by Shine

vyst posted:

Because things against the TOS are more controversial.

Yeah but like, not only is there barely any proof, but even worse case scenario you're talking about 2-3 dudes catching a ban, maybe permanent maybe not.

Meanwhile, the barbarians are at the gates and Rome is burning..

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Xolve posted:

The Imperium's unwillingness to contest timers and/or fight isn't an indictment of FozzieSov, it's an indictment of your leadership.

Stop shifting blame away from Sion/Mittens. Before the morale was broken and the 'we're going to bore them to death' speeches went out, there was a very real chance to stem the tide and maybe lose a region with intense fighting in another until Alliance Tournament practice started, but now, every carrion bird North to South is feasting on the dying corpse of the Imperium, and it's nobodies fault but their own. Nobody is getting bored, nobody is going home- I don't know where you fall exactly in terms of fence sides- but, exiling an alliance to Outer Ring is a pretty huge morale boost. CO2 flipping sides, the forum porn, the fireside chats, it's all hilarious from the other side.

Not really trying to spin anything, this is pretty much what 'we' see, and to us it's hilarious. They can clutch onto logs that fell out of the sky that aren't really damning while huffing farts about SUAS eating a 7 day ban all they want, this conflict for everyone not in the Imperium is probably the most fun most of us have had in years. I know the horn of goondor didn't really have the effect they wanted, but I'm talking to people I haven't seen in years, and having been a PL dude for 2 years (and then out of the game for 2 more years), I finally get the chance to fly with Shadoo (and no doubt get yelled at for my rusty skillset) and other people I've only had the pleasure of shooting.

fair, thank you for the info!

Daruna
Jul 3, 2011

vyst posted:

Because things against the TOS are more controversial.

if ccp took pastebin logs at face value then nobody in eve would be playing right now


martini has his priorities straight indeed

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Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Landsknecht posted:

the war seems to be over before it even really got going, which is kinda sad

gently caress you I said holler at me in a month not two days later

Destoration
Apr 30, 2012

dragonstalking posted:

It's hilarious that mittens won't stop talking about ~the saranen papers~ while everything literally burns around them.

I'm sad we aren't feeding yachtfleets over and over. It seems like a great idea really :suicide:

dragonstalking
Oct 6, 2013

by Shine

Destoration posted:

I'm sad we aren't feeding yachtfleets over and over. It seems like a great idea really :suicide:

How could you feed YachtFleet, they're a direct counter to AHACs :ohdear:

nessin
Feb 7, 2010
Ugh, I know I'm freaking in GSF, but come on:

1) This whole attacker thing with Fozziesov is still a god drat assumption. No one has tried any organized sov defense as far as I can tell, so I'd love to know how everyone is so god drat certain it's basically impossible for us.
2) Oh look, everyone is based out of NPC Low Sec (or NPC Null Sec), except one of the two largest organizations fighting us, and two of the smaller the ones.
3) As for Sovwoxing, I'm pretty sure at least Horde isn't blue to CO2 from my fleets last night, and even then if they actually care enough to find the "awoxer" can't they just fly to the site and report whose running the entosis link?

Edit:
Oh yeah, and for good measure, how is pounding CO2 going to mean anything, and how does what's in the "pastebin papers" supposed to do anything to anyone? I'm pretty sure no one on the other side gives a drat because someone else called them names behind their backs or that they were caught in some lie meant to play against the Imperium.

nessin fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Apr 10, 2016

Huge_Midget
Jun 6, 2002

I don't like the look of it...

Daruna posted:

if ccp took pastebin logs at face value then nobody in eve would be playing right now


martini has his priorities straight indeed

quote:

martini has his priorities straight indeed

quote:

martini

:frogout: you reddit pubby trash.

April Fool
Apr 1, 2016

Destoration posted:

I'm sad we aren't feeding yachtfleets over and over. It seems like a great idea really :suicide:

All Machs has been bought by this Ironbank guy! :rip:

Lugnut Seatcushion
May 4, 2013
Lipstick Apathy

nessin posted:

Ugh, I know I'm freaking in GSF, but come on:

1) This whole attacker thing with Fozziesov is still a god drat assumption. No one has tried any organized sov defense as far as I can tell, so I'd love to know how everyone is so god drat certain it's basically impossible for us.
2) Oh look, everyone is based out of NPC Low Sec, except one of the two largest organizations fighting us, and two of the smaller the ones.
3) As for Sovwoxing, I'm pretty sure at least Horde isn't blue to CO2 from my fleets last night, and even then if they actually care enough to find the "awoxer" can't they just fly to the site and report whose running the entosis link?

Edit:
Oh yeah, and for good measure, how is pounding CO2 going to mean anything, and how does what's in the "pastebin papers" supposed to do anything to anyone? I'm pretty sure no one on the other side gives a drat because someone else called them names behind their backs or that they were caught in some lie meant to play against the Imperium.

Dude this chat is for the pubbies. Look at elysium, they eat this poo poo up.

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Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

nessin posted:

Ugh, I know I'm freaking in GSF, but come on:

1) This whole attacker thing with Fozziesov is still a god drat assumption. No one has tried any organized sov defense as far as I can tell, so I'd love to know how everyone is so god drat certain it's basically impossible for us.
2) Oh look, everyone is based out of NPC Low Sec, except one of the two largest organizations fighting us, and two of the smaller the ones.
3) As for Sovwoxing, I'm pretty sure at least Horde isn't blue to CO2 from my fleets last night, and even then if they actually care enough to find the "awoxer" can't they just fly to the site and report whose running the entosis link?

Edit:
Oh yeah, and for good measure, how is pounding CO2 going to mean anything, and how does what's in the "pastebin papers" supposed to do anything to anyone? I'm pretty sure no one on the other side gives a drat because someone else called them names behind their backs or that they were caught in some lie meant to play against the Imperium.

defending the autism nodes is how CCP would *like* for entosis to work. The problem is because gently caress you CCP

Destoration
Apr 30, 2012

dragonstalking posted:

How could you feed YachtFleet, they're a direct counter to AHACs :ohdear:

How could we lose a supercap fight right? It's not like we're outnumbered or anything :S

nessin
Feb 7, 2010

frozenpussy posted:

defending the autism nodes is how CCP would *like* for entosis to work. The problem is because gently caress you CCP

Hell, I'd be fine with that, but then he should just say that. "We're not going to play by CCPs stupid rules, so gently caress CCP until they change them and in turn we'll spend out time burning everyone else while they grind out our Sov." Done, motivational, and not resorting to loving bullshit.

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

nessin posted:

3) As for Sovwoxing, I'm pretty sure at least Horde isn't blue to CO2 from my fleets last night, and even then if they actually care enough to find the "awoxer" can't they just fly to the site and report whose running the entosis link?

Pretty much. When the warmup cycle finishes the owning alliance gets a notice that their poo poo is being hacked and in what system. They'll just blap the awoxer when they go to see who is hacking their poo poo. :shrug:

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Dalael posted:

Attn: Sir/Madam Ok Baby,

I seize this opportunity to extend my sincere hope that you will be successful in this endeavour.

I am certain that by the time you read this EVE mail, you will already have defeated the ~evil goons~ that plague New Eden. I was passing by Jita and decided to use this opportunity to send you this mail believing that my donation is the one that will ensure your success.

My name is [Insert name here] and I am currently in the possession of a very valuable ship which I would be willing to sell solely for the purpose of donating you the ISK to wage your war. Unfortunately, this ship is currently locked in a station in [insert system here] which I am unable to dock in. The only way I can get this ship back is by having [insert logistic corp here] ship it back to Jita and who would charge me [insert amount of ISk here] to move it. I know their fees is high, but the risks they take by going in this system is very real.

At this time, I find myself low on liquid ISk and assets and therefore would request that you send me [insert ISK here] so that I may have the ship sent back to Jita where I can sell it for the most profit. Rest assured that all the money made from the sale will promptly be given to your foundation since I strongly believe that [Insert Mittani or Sion's name here] is literally Hitler and need to be stopped for the good of the game.

I would also consider joining [Insert dumb pubbie corp in TEST] in order to fight the good fight myself and finally put an end to Goonswarm's domination over our beloved game.

Please be informed that confidentiality of this transaction is of the utmost importance.

Yours Truly

nigerian prince [Insert your name here]

I am experiencing cognitive dissonance, because one part of my brain says this is a good post and another wants to dismiss it because it came from Dalael

Zephyrine posted:

Now you're skirting the edges of bad posting.

I actually thought that was a pretty fair way to comment on it

LemonDrizzle posted:

I think you are completely misreading the likely impact of the capital changes. They are becoming a lot more powerful on the whole, and the limitation that you can no longer do capital RR outside of triage is almost completely irrelevant in a situation where you have crushing subcap numerical superiority.

This actually isn't even true any more, new cap reps will end up being about 60% as effective as old cap reps so the super ball will still in fact work and they are even more destructive to subs than before.

Oodles posted:

Great time to be a hammerbee

I look forward to the day when we can say 'lol made you remove our old towers for us so we could put up citadels you can only attack once a week'

Tokyo Sexwhale posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF8bAIFO6FY

PL making dank isk off of the Guristas Menace

Look at that scrub with only racial carrier IV, guess we know who's getting kicked next

Kimsemus posted:

So what is the current state of things? Anyone have any predictions on how the next couple of weeks look? In LSV we've just been doing a lot of tower kill ops and I'm not paying enough attention to my own coalition channels because a lot of people in our coalition outside LSV kind of annoy me.

You should unironically start shooting each other because we're not going to be interesting for another couple weeks at minimum

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Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

nessin posted:

Hell, I'd be fine with that, but then he should just say that. "We're not going to play by CCPs stupid rules, so gently caress CCP until they change them and in turn we'll spend out time burning everyone else while they grind out our Sov." Done, motivational, and not resorting to loving bullshit.

game mechanics are criticized constantly

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

nessin posted:

Hell, I'd be fine with that, but then he should just say that. "We're not going to play by CCPs stupid rules, so gently caress CCP until they change them and in turn we'll spend out time burning everyone else while they grind out our Sov." Done, motivational, and not resorting to loving bullshit.

isnt that what he said?

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I'm gonna try my hand at exploration.

Is this a mistake?

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah we can't really contest them right now so might as well gently caress with CO2.

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Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

Venom Snake posted:

Yeah we can't really contest them right now so might as well gently caress with CO2.

you're one of the tards who nibbled the cheese on that hel trap earlier. were you also the player posting about it in elysium

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Daruna posted:

if ccp took pastebin logs at face value then nobody in eve would be playing right now


martini has his priorities straight indeed

Quit feigning the naive shtick. You're better than that shitbird.

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk
I never thought the day I agree with Eonwe would come. I don't think anyone wanted to lose space, but whoops everyone in Eve decided to latch on to PLs dick for the ride and we are going to suffer for it.
Honestly for everyone who is smugging and hurf blurfing here - the average member who is logging in and keeping up knows that writing is probably on the wall in terms of space. Most of the minions I've talked to are ready to accept that and go on, and are having fun actually doing things while it burns down. If they aren't, well good fortune to them if they decide to quit or go elsewhere, it's a video game.
There's a lot of stuff going on and things to do for both sides, so there's really no reason to make it personal.
Except for those cocksuckers camping EWOK. gently caress them. :mad:

dragonstalking posted:

It's hilarious that mittens won't stop talking about ~the saranen papers~ while everything literally burns around them.

It's a lot more of an issue when certain members of the enemy leadership have ties to known RMT, plus discussion of sharing accounts and overly complex isk laundering. Also the logs are loving hilarious and worth a read just to see Boson's ~puppetmastering~ and how much MBC leadership hates each other.

I'll give away a secret. Sion and Mittens hurfblurf not because any of us are going to believe every word. We don't, really. They hurfblurf because it gets certain members of the enemy so loving wound up about "lies" and "koolaid" and all that EVERY TIME. And those certain members cannot see it for what it is ever. This has been the status quo for ever and it still winds the same people up.

So keep at it if the ~narrative~ makes you mad or whatever, but a lot of us are having fun on both sides with a ton of stuff to do, which includes laughing at people for losing ships in dumb ways even if they are allies, laughing at people on both sides getting wound up by the meta, and thinking about what we can do next.

Eve doesn't exist without conflict. Goons might be the big bad enemy right now and we are probably going to eat poo poo and change because of it. But there always has to be an enemy. Who is it going to be next?

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

LegionAreI posted:

I'll give away a secret. Sion and Mittens hurfblurf not because any of us are going to believe every word. We don't, really. They hurfblurf because it gets certain members of the enemy so loving wound up about "lies" and "koolaid" and all that EVERY TIME. And those certain members cannot see it for what it is ever. This has been the status quo for ever and it still winds the same people up.

This is the "advertising doesn't affect me :smug:" of claims. The idea that mittani is calling everyone into one spot to give a morale speech but at the same time it is ~totally aimed at the enemy~ is a complete load of poo poo.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe

SperginMcBadposter posted:

This is the "advertising doesn't affect me :smug:" of claims. The idea that mittani is calling everyone into one spot to give a morale speech but at the same time it is ~totally aimed at the enemy~ is a complete load of poo poo.

truth is it doesn't matter what is said in the fireside we just wanna see that dear leader is still hurfing thanks.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

AAPsel posted:

Honestly I can sympathize with that and I feel a bit bad about about laughing at it. Still, when you're going to outer ring because syndicate is too dangerous, hearing a crying child in the background is just too beautiful to ignore.

I mean yeah you can laugh about in game poo poo if you want but laughing at the literal baby crying because that's what babies do is kinda stupid.

dragonstalking
Oct 6, 2013

by Shine
"PL supers are not in Deklein, we will remain in complete control"

:mensch:

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Magres
Jul 14, 2011

LegionAreI posted:

I never thought the day I agree with Eonwe would come. I don't think anyone wanted to lose space, but whoops everyone in Eve decided to latch on to PLs dick for the ride and we are going to suffer for it.
Honestly for everyone who is smugging and hurf blurfing here - the average member who is logging in and keeping up knows that writing is probably on the wall in terms of space. Most of the minions I've talked to are ready to accept that and go on, and are having fun actually doing things while it burns down. If they aren't, well good fortune to them if they decide to quit or go elsewhere, it's a video game.
There's a lot of stuff going on and things to do for both sides, so there's really no reason to make it personal.
Except for those cocksuckers camping EWOK. gently caress them. :mad:


It's a lot more of an issue when certain members of the enemy leadership have ties to known RMT, plus discussion of sharing accounts and overly complex isk laundering. Also the logs are loving hilarious and worth a read just to see Boson's ~puppetmastering~ and how much MBC leadership hates each other.

I'll give away a secret. Sion and Mittens hurfblurf not because any of us are going to believe every word. We don't, really. They hurfblurf because it gets certain members of the enemy so loving wound up about "lies" and "koolaid" and all that EVERY TIME. And those certain members cannot see it for what it is ever. This has been the status quo for ever and it still winds the same people up.

So keep at it if the ~narrative~ makes you mad or whatever, but a lot of us are having fun on both sides with a ton of stuff to do, which includes laughing at people for losing ships in dumb ways even if they are allies, laughing at people on both sides getting wound up by the meta, and thinking about what we can do next.

Eve doesn't exist without conflict. Goons might be the big bad enemy right now and we are probably going to eat poo poo and change because of it. But there always has to be an enemy. Who is it going to be next?

how is agreeing with eonwe, known cool and good poster, something that surprises you

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