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clamiam45 posted:I enjoy him a lot on Ced Talks and on commentary, I just don't think he's the best. To be fair he's probably the second best (in his prime) after Randy Buehler and Brian David Marshall combination. I'm sorry, did you just suggest Randy Buehler for a portion of "Best commentator"? What is wrong with you?
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Sickening posted:Not yet. Time to cash in foil goggles.
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Gridlocked posted:I'm sorry, did you just suggest Randy Buehler for a portion of "Best commentator"? If you listen to him commentate on VSL he's great. The gap between his commentating skill on a format he cares about vs. a format he doesn't is huge.
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Apr 11, 2016 02:03
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AlternateNu posted:Thopter Spy Network Investigate deck. Feasible? I'm guessing most people have dismissed it as being too slow, but I like the idea of getting big unblockable Tireless Trackers using Whirler Rogue and getting all the card advantage via Thopters and sacking clues. I want this to be a thing.
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Apr 11, 2016 02:15
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I wouldn't really bank on getting a big Tracker with how much removal is in the format.
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Apr 11, 2016 02:20
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If your LGS is going to be copying some of these decklists try running something super removal heavy but creature-light. A lot of the Bant creatures become much worse without targets for their ETB effects and instant-speed removal is going to be essential. I think a more controlly WB list will do very well for the next few weeks or so. Dead Weights, Languishes, Stasis Snares, Declarations, Grasp of Darkness - run these and you're laughing. Wincons of Kalitas and Secure the Wastes (Westvale Abby), all the non-flip WB walkers and you'll have a really good chance.
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Apr 11, 2016 02:34
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Voyager I posted:I wouldn't really bank on getting a big Tracker with how much removal is in the format. Fair enough. But, I find it funny that sacking clues with Mom & Dad, Angelic Purge, or Tragic Arrogance also triggers Tracker. 
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Balon posted:If your LGS is going to be copying some of these decklists try running something super removal heavy but creature-light. A lot of the Bant creatures become much worse without targets for their ETB effects and instant-speed removal is going to be essential. I think a more controlly WB list will do very well for the next few weeks or so. Yep. If anything, this weekend taught you that deadweight and languish are maindeck bombs. I don't agree on kalitas, but reality smasher, abbey, gideon and the like are all good finishers. Your finishers need to survive your own languishes, so I have no opted to use avencyn even though others have. Here is the list I will probably use this week. Deck: W/B/C   //Lands 4 Caves of Koilos 2 Forsaken Sanctuary 2 Llanowar Wastes 4 Plains 4 Shambling Vent 8 Swamp 2 Westvale Abbey //Spells 2 Anguished Unmaking 3 Dead Weight 2 Declaration in Stone 3 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar 4 Grasp of Darkness 3 Languish 3 Read the Bones 3 Secure the Wastes 3 Sorin, Grim Nemesis 3 Transgress the Mind 2 Ultimate Price //Creatures 3 Reality Smasher //Sideboard 3 Infinite Obliteration 1 Languish 1 Transgress the Mind 3 Hallowed Moonlight 1 Dead Weight 2 Fate Forgotten 3 Thought-Knot Seer 1 Declaration in Stone  Display deck statistics
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Gridlocked posted:I'm sorry, did you just suggest Randy Buehler for a portion of "Best commentator"? I like it when the commentators are really enjoying themselves. Honestly there's no need for commentary for me (or most of this thread I'm betting). I'd like the setup to be either just a couple of friends having fun and joking or just player mics and no commentary. PhyrexianLibrarian posted:If you listen to him commentate on VSL he's great. The gap between his commentating skill on a format he cares about vs. a format he doesn't is huge. Yeah totally. He clearly enjoys Vintage very much and it shows. That's what I like.
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Apr 11, 2016 03:00
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:If you listen to him commentate on VSL he's great. The gap between his commentating skill on a format he cares about vs. a format he doesn't is huge. He's very good at coming up with illegal and/or clearly bad plays in every format. He's excited to do so in vintage. And getting cards restricted from a deck that isn't oppressive or even the best deck in the format.
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suicidesteve posted:He's very good at coming up with illegal and/or clearly bad plays in every format. He's excited to do so in vintage. peep those MTGO Vintage daily and league records GUSH B*TCH edit: i bought a moat today at the Open so I can play The Mighty Quinn, because no one would talk me out of it. thankfully i 4-0d a legacy challenge to pay for half of it
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Apr 11, 2016 03:53
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suicidesteve posted:He's very good at coming up with illegal and/or clearly bad plays in every format. He's excited to do so in vintage. Are you still crying about your deck being restricted?
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Apr 11, 2016 03:54
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AgentSythe posted:GUSH B*TCH 
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Apr 11, 2016 03:55
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SCG modern deck lists were posted - nothing in the top 8 had sword or ancestral
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GoutPatrol posted:Are you still crying about your deck being restricted? No, I'm pointing out all of the things that Randy Buehler is good at. Things which don't include playing vintage or doing commentary for any format. Dehtraen posted:SCG modern deck lists were posted - nothing in the top 8 had sword or ancestral I'm shocked. Shocked!
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Apr 11, 2016 03:57
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Dehtraen posted:SCG modern deck lists were posted - nothing in the top 8 had sword or ancestral 1st place had 3 Ancestral in the SB. 10th, 11th, and 12th played 3-4 Ancestral.
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GoutPatrol posted:Are you still crying about your deck being restricted? He is, yes.
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GoutPatrol posted:1st place had 3 Ancestral in the SB. 10th, 11th, and 12th played 3-4 Ancestral. Aha, I missed the sideboard copies, they probably came in against jund, right?
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Apr 11, 2016 04:14
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GoutPatrol posted:1st place had 3 Ancestral in the SB. 10th, 11th, and 12th played 3-4 Ancestral. Did a SotM deck even place? Edit: Why yes! http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=100791 Oh hey even Gerry Thompson played in this Classic, with Thopters. http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=100802 I wonder why they both went the path of U/W, maybe because the removal suite is a bit better? Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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The Tron deck at 14th played 1-ofs, Ironworks combo at 19th played them, Gifts combo at 25th played some,.
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GoutPatrol posted:The Tron deck at 14th played 1-ofs, Ironworks combo at 19th played them, Gifts combo at 25th played some,. Basically the deck has some life and that's all I wanted to hear. The fact U/W is an option is also wonderful.
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Apr 11, 2016 04:27
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At SCG in baltimore this weekend, In fourth place, the awesome pyromancer's goggles deck from this weekend is $500 (mostly because a playset of jace is $350 - 4 thing in Ice and 2 chandra's set you back $100). In third, a B/W/C midrange deck was $400. 4 Avacyn are at $130. The mono-white deck that came in 2nd was $100 - Declaration of stone, Kytheon, and 1 westvale abbey. Jim Davis' deck was $600 on the back of jace, coco, and avacyn. Guess I'm still on hiatus from constructed.
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The problem with Ancestral Visions is that you sort of want to play a lot of copies because they're excellent in your opening hand and you really want them there, but drawing one later in the game is basically drawing a blank. I would think most normal decks would probably prefer to just have a Serum Visions. The deck I think AV is good in is Scapeshift, actually. Meatbag Esq. posted:At SCG in baltimore this weekend,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgy6gUG8w4U LRR talks about the Pre-Pre-Release they held, their decks and a crack a pack, very good listen.
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I think decks will need a way to bin their excess copies late game for GDD to just flashback and I think that's where Jace might come in.
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Bought a fat pack on a whim, opened a foil Arlinn Kord and a Nahiri in the same pack. Traded them in for most of the UB control lost that was posted earlier, and the rest of an Ever After combo deck I've been brewing.
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It amazes me that all the W/x human decks placed higher than the W/B Midrange decks, which main-decked some languishes. Even weirder is the mono white deck outclassed W/x. The U/R Goggles deck was really fun to watch. I wish the guy playing The Rock with the Gitrog Monster placed higher though. That deck looked really fun.
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DangerDongs posted:It amazes me that all the W/x human decks placed higher than the W/B Midrange decks, which main-decked some languishes. Even weirder is the mono white deck outclassed W/x. Jeff Hoogland finished 16th because he mulliganed to oblivion in the final round. His deck seems sweet, and i'm pretty sure looping Pulse of Murasa is one of the sweetest things you can do in any format.
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I will confirm looping Pulse of Murasa is fun as hell. GDD and it are <3
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Meatbag Esq. posted:At SCG in baltimore this weekend, Like I know people have different budgets and whatever, but $100 for a competitive constructed deck is really nothing. Like, I don't think you can ever expect a tourney-level constructed deck to be less than $100. I mean to hit that low a threshold you basically need 1 card that's a 4-of to be $15 which I don't think that's never not been the case. Angry Grimace posted:
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Meatbag Esq. posted:At SCG in baltimore this weekend, Oh good standard decks are half the price of last standard
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Skyl3lazer posted:Oh good standard decks are half the price of last standard The mana base does not involve Legacy mainstays anymore, for one. For another, the two-color lists can only have up to 8 rare duals if they're ally-colored. Some of last standards's had about 20 between fetches and bofas. The Shadows lands aren't any good outside of standard, as well. Enemy color lists use the painlands which have been reprinted a bajillion times. The mana bases not supporting 4-color fuckfests anymore means decks stop being goodstuff lists with the best cards of each color, which further decreases prices. Not everything plays a bunch of Jaces and Kalitases yet still manages to slot in Crackling Doom. Weakening the mana makes both the mana itself cheaper, and it leads to less expensive lists as they can't support multicolor goodstuff.
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Meatbag Esq. posted:At SCG in baltimore this weekend, 100$ isn't bad at all tho, like i could afford that if standard was something i ever wanted to do
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Oh wow, looks like there's no Magic panel at PAX East for the first time in years. I guess because it's too early to talk about the next set.
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mandatory lesbian posted:100$ isn't bad at all tho, like i could afford that if standard was something i ever wanted to do I feel pretty confident Thing in the Ice and probably Avacyn will fall a bit, these are very early prices. Just don't play Blue. Which is good advice any time really.
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BizarroAzrael posted:I feel pretty confident Thing in the Ice and probably Avacyn will fall a bit, these are very early prices. Just don't play Blue. Which is good advice any time really. Not unless you want to win
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GonSmithe posted:Oh wow, looks like there's no Magic panel at PAX East for the first time in years. I guess because it's too early to talk about the next set. Technically the next set is Eternal Masters, and PAX is when they've done spoilers for their other Masters sets. If they aren't doing PAX or GenCon, what big conventions are left?
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Technically the next set is Eternal Masters, and PAX is when they've done spoilers for their other Masters sets. If they aren't doing PAX or GenCon, what big conventions are left? But yeah, there's no Magic panel listed on their schedule
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oh god help http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/enter-battlefield-premieres-april-25-2016-04-11 this is gonna be terrible
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GonSmithe posted:Not unless you want to win Ha ha look at this jerk actually needs blue to win at magic haha. Play Jund.
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