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I've just started the1 billion spells run. I can die happy once I get that thing.
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Dragongem posted:I burned out at R25 since I'm at e97 or so and I still can't find a good neutral build and my vanillas ones are slowing down. There's a U-Faceless one someones put up that might be worth giving a go. I don't think there's anything particularly speedy for that area though.
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Apr 10, 2016 14:49
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Just finished my 1B spell run last night. It really went quite quickly toward the end, ended up being a little over 10 days of online time, and the last 10% only took like 12 hours. Ended up with something like 33k max mana and 40k mana/sec. Promptly proceeded to chew through the new challenges pretty effortlessly. Dwarf 3/4/5 all unlocked at the same time. No trophy for doing them all, so I assume that's waiting for them to add the neutral prestige faction (and associated challenges). Since I'm not in a big rush to go for ascension, it's time to go back to banking up Faceless time again.
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Apr 10, 2016 16:53
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Please can someone tell me if there is an easy build to make it from Dvg to Tvg so I can finally get R16 and unlock researching. Im using an LF build at the moment, but was wondering if there might be something just slightly more efficient for this last little bit.
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Apr 10, 2016 17:41
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Tsietisin posted:Please can someone tell me if there is an easy build to make it from Dvg to Tvg so I can finally get R16 and unlock researching. If you don't already have the artifact "Know Your Enemy, Part 1", get that. It unlocks a very good upgrade for mercs that should let you make the last push pretty reasonably with LF.
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Apr 10, 2016 18:09
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LF gets faster the more you use Realm Weather Service to predict lightning strikes and rush to blacksmith ones. http://generalyouri.github.io/royal-advisory-board/rws/ There is no faster build though, since lightning strike's power is supposed to be balanced by its randomness and nothing else is random.
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Apr 10, 2016 18:12
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Strangely, the RWS states that I don't have Lightning Strikes, so I got no idea how I could advise it that yes, I do.
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Apr 10, 2016 19:56
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Tsietisin posted:Strangely, the RWS states that I don't have Lightning Strikes, so I got no idea how I could advise it that yes, I do. RWS can get a little confused for a while shortly after patches, when data is stored differently in the export string. Just yesterday the game was updated to add prestige challenges, so RWS may not have been updated accordingly. Beyond that, my main gripe with it is that it does in fact require you to have Lightning Strike (be Titan, or be merc and have actually bought LS already) before it'll tell you what you'll get. Adjusting that based on currently owned buildings since LS can't hit something you have 0 of, fine, I can see the need for that. But I don't see why it doesn't just tell you what LS would hit, regardless of whether or not you actually have LS in your current build. Handily, once you get R up high enough, you just sort of blaze through with dwairies until research (at which point you blaze through with research dwairies until they peter out) and give zero shits about touching mercs at all.
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Apr 10, 2016 22:39
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So the new challenge stuff is pretty crazy with droblins casting. I just capped out on R39 and built my archwizard build and well: Playtime (this game):12m53s Time spent offline (this game): 2h37s It's also building the drow passive faster than actually being offline is. I imagine there are gonna be some pretty heinous offline builds that use one of these runs as a setup like building clicks as dwelf. E: appears to be about 1 day of offline time per hour so extrapolate from there. Probably still better to bank faceless time if you're just generally waiting but for pushing limits it seems pretty good Feline Mind Meld fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Apr 11, 2016 01:30
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Tsietisin posted:Please can someone tell me if there is an easy build to make it from Dvg to Tvg so I can finally get R16 and unlock researching. Sindai fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Apr 11, 2016 05:59
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Sindai posted:The good news is that sometimes in the early R20s (depending on just how much you hate it) you can skip LF and go straight from moonshine mercs to fairy research. Hell, you never need to touch LF again once you hit R18 and can do tier 3 racial challenges. Moonshine is good enough on its own to power to research the moment you have access to it.
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Apr 11, 2016 06:01
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I'm getting horrible returns on both varieties of goblin in late R25 and all neutral builds seem to require W320 which I can't actually unlock yet, what do I do here?
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Apr 11, 2016 12:14
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Asehujiko posted:I'm getting horrible returns on both varieties of goblin in late R25 and all neutral builds seem to require W320 which I can't actually unlock yet, what do I do here?
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Apr 11, 2016 13:04
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DACK FAYDEN posted:W320 is just a big multiplier, you should be fine without it. That said, I think E290 makes it so you can unlock W320? I don't recall that phase exactly but I would just run Titans or something but without W320 and at some point try taking E290 over a "real" upgrade and see how far you can get.
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Apr 11, 2016 13:31
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Ugh, that's... really low. Maybe just a super long Titans run with all the stuff that grows over time? Although eventually Faceless ends up being better, I don't really know.
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Apr 11, 2016 13:36
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Ugh, that's... really low. Maybe just a super long Titans run with all the stuff that grows over time? Although eventually Faceless ends up being better, I don't really know. Faceless was better than titans for me until I unlocked C375. No idea how early you can get W320 though, I had the easter event boosting me through that.
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Apr 11, 2016 14:10
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Asehujiko posted:I'm getting horrible returns on both varieties of goblin in late R25 and all neutral builds seem to require W320 which I can't actually unlock yet, what do I do here? Hey you are literally me  . I took a break but I'll probably start messing around again today or tomorrow.
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Apr 11, 2016 14:24
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I did U goblins through that range, though they do require some time to build up. Once you hit R26, you get a bunch of 330 researches which should prop you up quite nicely. Don't worry about unlocking W320 (or whichever one is the one that requires 2750 excavations) until several Rs past when it's first available. Go for it in like R27 or R28, you won't have the gems to feasibly excavate that much (even with E290) until then.
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Apr 11, 2016 15:34
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How does the artifact RNG work? I am currently at 16000 Grand Balance casts for Druid artifact but can only do 230 more excavations. I tried using all of them and didn't get the artifact. Can i get it later if i wait to say 20k casts, or am i screwed? I will still only be able to do 230 excavations. Ineptitude fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Apr 11, 2016 16:30
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I reached almost 2500 excavations as Titans in R24 with E290 trying (and failing, not a huge fan of tying something so important to a flat 0.2% chance) to get the extra neutral slots artifact, and Titans in R24 are way, way weaker than U Goblins, so it seems like 2750 it might be possible with U Goblins. I might also be underestimating how quickly excavation costs scale up.Ineptitude posted:How does the artifact RNG work? Sindai fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Apr 11, 2016 16:36
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Ineptitude posted:How does the artifact RNG work? Iirc, The RNG is basically seeded at the start of the reincarnation. That seeding determines how much of a probability is needed at a given excavation. I.e. At excavation X, probability Y or more is needed. This only checks upon excavation and does not check previous ones so it's possible that a previous excavation could get an artifact at your new probability and you won't get it because of the way the RNG seeding works. Edit: to answer your question, yes it's possible, but it's all predetermined. There was a tool that told you when you would get an artifact, but it got taken down
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Apr 11, 2016 16:44
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If that doesn't end up working, I'd warmly advise going for the exceptionally tedious lore artifacts (the ones that require a shitload of spell casts for example) in a later R when you've got 1000+ excavations to burn rather than being up against a hard limit of "only" a few hundred. Alternatively, ruby excavation resets are a thing.
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Ineptitude posted:How does the artifact RNG work? Assuming you reloaded to before you spent those 230 excavations, you might be able to get it but you'll need to be lucky. The seed gives each excavation a random number between 0 and 1 (uniformly). When you excavate, if your probability of finding an artifact is greater than that excavation's associated number, you get the artifact. At the moment, your probability of getting the artifact is about .005, so your attempted excavation revealed that none of the 230 excavations has a number less than .005. If you do another five thousand casts, your probability of getting the artifact will improve to more like .007, so you'll get the artifact is any of those 230 excavations has a number between .005 and .007. (I've rounded the numbers a bit to make them look nice as decimals. Your total probability of success in 230 excavations at 20000 casts given that you did not succeed at 16000 casts is about 26.5%.) Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Apr 11, 2016 16:48
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Ineptitude posted:How does the artifact RNG work? So for example you can have a result list of 2.682.728 1.147.156 2.278.842 2.141.055 0.739.787 2.954.947 0.156.096 2.478.484 etc. which means if you have 739.787 casts, you'll get it on your 5th excav and if you have 156.096, you'll get it on your 7th. There was a calculator that could read this stuff out but DG broke the same compatibility or something and banned the creator so all you can do at the moment is export/buy/import. There's a formula for determining the chance of you getting it, 100*(1-(1-casts/3.000.000)^excavations) with your excavation count, you'll need a little over 9000 casts to have a 50% chance of one of those 230 rolls being lower than your cast count.
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Asehujiko posted:Artifact RNG effectively creates a pre-determined set of roll results, namely 1d3.000.000's in your case and then ties each one to an excavation, then when you click it, it checks if your number beats the roll number and if yes, gives you the artifact. Fwiw, the dev of the tool was only banned for a day for distribution of cheating tools or something
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Apr 11, 2016 17:02
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Regarding Neutral research, what amount of gems is the minimum before going into it and as a follow on should I be able to get all the researches right at r23 for the neutrals?
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Apr 11, 2016 17:11
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Xelkelvos posted:Fwiw, the dev of the tool was only banned for a day for distribution of cheating tools or something Eh, "distributing cheating tools" is a bit overkill for "edited people's save files so they had free rubies in order to get all eight unique eggs because their RNG seed was so hosed they wouldn't get all eight even with constant scrying". I mean I get why (that hits their bottom line), but it's still evasive doublespeak.
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Apr 11, 2016 17:20
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As with most things, a good ballpark to aim for is "however many gems you needed to reincarnate the previous round". Which I think is somewhere in the e90s. Neutral research at R23 isn't quite as great as the later prestige research at R29. While that one lets you just jump right into it (once it's unlocked) and squeal with glee at your newfound power, neutral research doesn't really start to shine until a few Rs later when you get the 330 (R26), 375 (R27), and 400 (R28) researches. There are a few nice things in the meantime, but nothing majorly stand-out.
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Apr 11, 2016 17:22
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Kyrosiris posted:Eh, "distributing cheating tools" is a bit overkill for "edited people's save files so they had free rubies in order to get all eight unique eggs because their RNG seed was so hosed they wouldn't get all eight even with constant scrying".
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Apr 11, 2016 17:51
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Kyrosiris posted:Eh, "distributing cheating tools" is a bit overkill for "edited people's save files so they had free rubies in order to get all eight unique eggs because their RNG seed was so hosed they wouldn't get all eight even with constant scrying". I didn't hear he did that. Well poo poo.
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Apr 11, 2016 18:11
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Has Adventure Capitalist always had the "watch another video to extend your boost" mechanic, or did it change a few updates ago? Because of how fire-and-forget the game is, I don't think I've ever read the text on it until one of the seasonal events. Tis a rare day when an idle game makes you feel  .
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Kyrosiris posted:Eh, "distributing cheating tools" is a bit overkill for "edited people's save files so they had free rubies in order to get all eight unique eggs because their RNG seed was so hosed they wouldn't get all eight even with constant scrying". So that's what actually happened? Well, now the kerfluffle makes more sense but since the intent was to put bad effects of their design to rights this was still a really lovely way of handling things. Not like there's anything to be done about it given the circumstances.
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Apr 11, 2016 23:08
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In fairness the bad effects of their design was missing out on a 1 or 2% bonus once the event was over. I'm lucky I happened to start working on Faceless 4 yesterday. Now I don't have to think about RG for another two days or so while dark souls happens. Sindai fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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Apr 12, 2016 01:27
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Sindai posted:In fairness the bad effects of their design was missing out on a 1 or 2% bonus once the event was over. Why do you think I'm doing archwizard now?
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Apr 12, 2016 01:45
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Haha, new personal fastest to open Fairies unique building: e39 gems in R38
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Apr 12, 2016 05:59
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Kyrosiris posted:Eh, "distributing cheating tools" is a bit overkill for "edited people's save files so they had free rubies in order to get all eight unique eggs because their RNG seed was so hosed they wouldn't get all eight even with constant scrying". I still have 200 rubies thanks to him  . Well, max rubies anyway, after buying all the eggs I spent all the rest on timewarps to skip through a couple time locked researches. Still, tier 3 ruby power is nice.
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Apr 12, 2016 07:31
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So for anyone who might be interested, https://iourpg.com/ finally got their backend in the right place and seem to be back into the swing of development. They just redid the challenge system and seem to be going full steam right now in case anyone wants to start/come back. We have a pretty good guild with good buildings and plenty of space so hey come check it out if you want another thing to check every 6-8 hours.
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Apr 13, 2016 04:32
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Finally sat down and did more than just buy storages/upgrades for 5 minutes and then leave it idle for 12-36 hours. Not pictured: The 47 seconds at the end of the clock when I beat it. (This is with ~750k helium all-time.)
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Apr 13, 2016 07:30
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I'm probably going to wait on the speedrun achievements until I get Overkill.
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Eldercain posted:So for anyone who might be interested, https://iourpg.com/ finally got their backend in the right place and seem to be back into the swing of development. They just redid the challenge system and seem to be going full steam right now in case anyone wants to start/come back. We have a pretty good guild with good buildings and plenty of space so hey come check it out if you want another thing to check every 6-8 hours. I do still check into iourpg, even though I hate it. But it's more like every day or two, to do events and gather resources. Any more and I'd probably burn out again. If that's cool, you can invite me or something (ign: nononono, >15k IOU score), or give me the name of the guild so I can apply, I forgot how it works.
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