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Weremacht posted:you know i'm gonna call bullshit on this. i have hundreds of hours in dark souls 2, the vast majority of which were pvp, and i could count the number of hackers on both hands. ten instances, in like, three hundred hours. truly a vile cesspit of cheaters. I don't think i've encountered a hacker playing DS 1/2/SotFS on PC. Not a huge amount of pvp outside of bell bro stuff but I've been invaded a fair amount and never knowingly encountered a hacker
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Weremacht posted:you know i'm gonna call bullshit on this. i have hundreds of hours in dark souls 2, the vast majority of which were pvp, and i could count the number of hackers on both hands. ten instances, in like, three hundred hours. truly a vile cesspit of cheaters. Same. I logged close to 100 hours in DS2 PvP and encountered...two hackers?
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Harrow posted:Pyromancy is good. Actually all the magic is good, it just requires a ton of investment and 30 Intelligence/30 Faith is just a little more accessible than 60 in either Intelligence or Faith. That's good to know too! I was reading gripes about it, even after the fix. Maybe I'll go Herald and work up. God this is the longest workday.
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Genocyber posted:Not really. You only need 60 FPS for fast-paced twitchy games. It's always nice to have but hardly necessary here. Yeah but then how are people playing on PC going to feel superior?
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We still get 60 fps which is superior in every way. We are golden gods.Fuzz posted:Look at all these people posting about PvP while also taking about buying the PC version, like it won't be full of hackers and cheaters within the first 48 hours*. What? Out of like 600 hours between DS1 and DS2, I've encountered maybe like 5-10 cheaters... and most (~80%) of that was PvP.
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NeurosisHead posted:Is anyone going to be using a Steam Link to stream this to a TV? Would you mind posting about it if you do, I'm on the fence about buying one. I've got a Steam Link. Haven't played this game yet (obviously) but generally speaking it's a solid device. I've got both my Link and gaming PC wired for the fastest connection and there's a tiny delay of around 1ms. If you spend a lot of time playing a game on the PC then play it on the Link the input delay will trip you up occasionally on things like parry timing. Otherwise it's just something you barely notice at first then absorb.
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RBA Starblade posted:That's good to know too! I was reading gripes about it, even after the fix. Maybe I'll go Herald and work up. So, the thing about Faith is that the Lightning Spear-type miracles don't work the way everyone thought they did. If you use them at range, like you would in the past two Souls games, they're insultingly weak for their FP cost. Just so bad. But their damage scales based on your proximity to the target, and if you're point-blank, they're very strong. They also have hyperarmor on their casting animation (and you can get more with the talisman weapon art) and cast much more quickly than DS1/2. Basically, miracles are now fully melee-magic. Lightning Spears have range and you can use them for pulling or punishing Estus chugging in PvP, but the real damage comes in when you slam a Sunlight Spear directly into someone's face. People didn't get that at first (and also didn't know that magic soft-caps at 60 instead of 40 this time), which is why there was a lot of "magic is broken and scaling does nothing" a couple of weeks ago. (Also, much like DS1, catalysts/talismans have varying ratios of base magic adjust to scaling that can mean that the best talisman for you to use at 35 Faith probably isn't the same as the best one for you to use at 55 Faith.)
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NeurosisHead posted:Is anyone going to be using a Steam Link to stream this to a TV? Would you mind posting about it if you do, I'm on the fence about buying one.
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Dark Souls 1 is the only one I've played on PC prior to this one so this 60 FPS thing is gonna feel weird at first
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Harrow posted:Pyromancy is good. Actually all the magic is good, it just requires a ton of investment and 30 Intelligence/30 Faith is just a little more accessible than 60 in either Intelligence or Faith. Definitely making me lean Pyro now. I didn't know about the Chaos Estoc (which sounds great actually). I figured with the Raw Astora's, I'd be able to infuse it with whatever I needed at the time through a mix of Sorc/Pyro/Faith buffs or whatever the resin equivalent is. Hearing the Chaos Estoc is PvP viable (at least right now) is great too since apparently the Raw Astora's really isn't. Harrow posted:Basically, miracles are now fully melee-magic. Lightning Spears have range and you can use them for pulling or punishing Estus chugging in PvP, but the real damage comes in when you slam a Sunlight Spear directly into someone's face. People didn't get that at first (and also didn't know that magic soft-caps at 60 instead of 40 this time), which is why there was a lot of "magic is broken and scaling does nothing" a couple of weeks ago. (Also, much like DS1, catalysts/talismans have varying ratios of base magic adjust to scaling that can mean that the best talisman for you to use at 35 Faith probably isn't the same as the best one for you to use at 55 Faith.) This actually makes more sense to me. Clerics aren't Sorcerors. They're in your face zealots, so it would make more sense that their miracles are designed to be more "slamming a lightning spear down your throat" than plinking at range. I've never done a full faith build in any Souls game, but I can see going Faith on a later playthrough.
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Helter Skelter posted:You can try it out yourself if you have a laptop with HDMI out laying around. Does the Steam Link not have any special features that regular in-home streaming doesn't, then? Fhqwhgads posted:Definitely making me lean Pyro now. I didn't know about the Chaos Estoc (which sounds great actually). I figured with the Raw Astora's, I'd be able to infuse it with whatever I needed at the time through a mix of Sorc/Pyro/Faith buffs or whatever the resin equivalent is. Hearing the Chaos Estoc is PvP viable (at least right now) is great too since apparently the Raw Astora's really isn't. Basically anything with a Chaos infusion is real strong. The Estoc is just a good candidate because it has an incredible move set and great range, with very low requirements (a normal Estoc is the starting weapon for the Assassin class). There's also (weapon spoiler) a really cool Int/Faith-scaling whip with a fiery weapon art that has ridiculous range and is very, very cool if you like that kind of weapon. I'd say that, this time around, weapon buffs are probably better for you if you're not a "pure" caster, something like having enough Int/Faith for the buff you want but then having enough physical stats to scale your weapon, too. Like, you could do a 40 Dex/50 Faith build (at NG+ or PvP meta levels) and use Sunlight Blade with a fast Dex weapon for crazy good damage, or 40 Dex and 30/30 Int/Faith and do the same with Carthus Flame Arc (Flame Weapon), though I don't know if it's as strong as the top-tier miracle weapon buffs. You'd be giving up a lot of Vigor and Endurance on both of those builds, though, assuming you want to stay within a specific SL range. My first build is going to be Dex/Faith--there are some very cool Faith-scaling weapons that look like they're right up my alley--but pure pyro is second on the list for sure. Harrow fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Harrow posted:So, the thing about Faith is that the Lightning Spear-type miracles don't work the way everyone thought they did. If you use them at range, like you would in the past two Souls games, they're insultingly weak for their FP cost. Just so bad. But their damage scales based on your proximity to the target, and if you're point-blank, they're very strong. They also have hyperarmor on their casting animation (and you can get more with the talisman weapon art) and cast much more quickly than DS1/2, miracles are now fully melee-magic. Lightning Spears have range and you can use them for pulling or punishing Estus chugging in PvP, but the real damage comes in when you slam a Sunlight Spear directly into someone's face. People didn't get that at first (and also didn't know that magic soft-caps at 60 instead of 40 this time), which is why there was a lot of "magic is broken and scaling does nothing" a couple of weeks ago. (Also, much like DS1, catalysts/talismans have varying ratios of base magic adjust to scaling that can mean that the best talisman for you to use at 35 Faith probably isn't the same as the best one for you to use at 55 Faith.) But that doesn't look as cool as firing it from range. Like imagine if the DS1 opening scene had Gwyn standing with his face right in the dragon's buttcrack and you only saw the lightning spear for the blink of an eye before it hit, that would've been lame as hell
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Harrow posted:Does the Steam Link not have any special features that regular in-home streaming doesn't, then?
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so the partizan move set looks retarded good. Would a dex/pyro build work? shield and spear and bust out some fire spells on people. Probably dex. int/faith to 15 just to unlock the pyro spells, and vit/end/whatever to taste. does this make sense? never really made a build for a dark souls game.
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Suaimhneas posted:But that doesn't look as cool as firing it from range. Interestingly, one of the lightning miracles even makes reference to the throwing lightning spears in the DS1 opening cinematic, probably to head off the "uh but that's not how lightning spears worked for Gwyn, using them in melee goes against the lore" objection that I've already seen all over the place. Quote from an item description in the spoiler: "This tale describes the lost practices of ancient dragonslayers, who found that in order to pierce dragonscale, lightning should not be hurled as a bolt, but rather be thrust as a stake directly into the dragon's hide, to be truly effective." So apparently the knights in that cinematic were doing it wrong, according to this here retcon 
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Harrow posted:Basically anything with a Chaos infusion is real strong. The Estoc is just a good candidate because it has an incredible move set and great range, with very low requirements (a normal Estoc is the starting weapon for the Assassin class). There's also (weapon spoiler) a really cool Int/Faith-scaling whip with a fiery weapon art that has ridiculous range and is very, very cool if you like that kind of weapon. Yeah my plan is to do a Dex/Int Sharp Estoc instead and then buff that with just enough int/fth to cast magic weapon or fire weapon. But Chaos Estoc sounds pretty cool too.. may have to respec and try it both ways.
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Ulvirich posted:Reading that reddit link earlier, there's a password for doing co-op with a specific someone? Yes and goon pw is LASERTAG but make appointments here don't just set it and try to play the whole game that way.
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queeb posted:so the partizan move set looks retarded good. Would a dex/pyro build work? shield and spear and bust out some fire spells on people. Probably dex. int/faith to 15 just to unlock the pyro spells, and vit/end/whatever to taste. does this make sense? never really made a build for a dark souls game. I'm not super sure how strong pyromancy would be at 15/15, and you'd be missing the requirements for a few really good pyromancies. I think it's more important that you use the three pyromancy-enhancing rings than having the best possible scaling stats, so your low-requirement pyromancies should be able to hit pretty hard, but you're still missing out on things like this game's version of Forbidden Sun. It's worth noting that you can infuse the Partizan, so you could go pure pyromancer (30/30 is the soft-cap) and just meet the minimum requirements for the Partizan and infuse it with Chaos so it scales with your pyro stats. If you'd prefer to buff, you could do like 25/25 and 30+ Dex, then buff it with fire and stab away.
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What does chaos add to a weapon and what does it scale with in DS3? I'm probably going pyro in t minus SEVEN HOURS.
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Praise Australian time zones and me not having to work tomorrow. This is so loving good so far. Edit:That first run feel where you're paranoid of every loving corner cause you don't know where the ambushes are and cautious of every loving enemy cause you don't know poo poo about movesets or what enemies are more dangerous than they look. I missed this.
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Wildtortilla posted:What does chaos add to a weapon and what does it scale with in DS3? I'm probably going pyro in t minus SEVEN HOURS. Chaos lowers physical damage and adds fire damage that scales with Intelligence and Faith equally. I think it's B/B, which is pretty drat strong for scaling with two stats. I don't know how far into the game you have to go to get the necessary crystal to infuse a weapon with the Chaos path. In the early game, you can get a Fire weapon that doesn't scale at all, and that can get you through until you get Chaos. (A Fire Gem is one of the starting gift choices, so you can get a Fire weapon extremely early.)
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GaussianCopula posted:less than 7 hours bois. To add insult to injury, the ps4 digital version unlocks at midnight est unlike the PC version. First you make me wait 3 weeks, now you make me wait an extra 6 hours Bamco?! 
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Lakbay posted:To add insult to injury, the ps4 digital version unlocks at midnight est unlike the PC version. First you make me wait 3 weeks, now you make me wait an extra 6 hours Bamco?! Maybe you should join the PC Master Race. double nine posted:With my pre-order I got a "vip-code", nearest I can find is it's bandai's community registry with nothing particularly interesting, am I missing out on something noteworthy if I completely ignore it? Ignore it.
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Harrow posted:Interestingly, one of the lightning miracles even makes reference to the throwing lightning spears in the DS1 opening cinematic, probably to head off the "uh but that's not how lightning spears worked for Gwyn, using them in melee goes against the lore" objection that I've already seen all over the place. Quote from an item description in the spoiler: Well if the animation actually looks like you're doing that, that would be cool too!
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ohrwurm posted:Are amazon physical copies shipping today or tomorrow? Got an email that My XBONE Collectors Edition shipped last night.
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Harrow posted:I'm not super sure how strong pyromancy would be at 15/15, and you'd be missing the requirements for a few really good pyromancies. I think it's more important that you use the three pyromancy-enhancing rings than having the best possible scaling stats, so your low-requirement pyromancies should be able to hit pretty hard, but you're still missing out on things like this game's version of Forbidden Sun.
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Game is fantastically atmospheric. I've spent far more time than is reasonable wandering around with my torch held up high to look at things. Knight armour is especially gorgeous. I forget, can you undo Infusions? The Claymore is, unsurprisingly, my waifu but I'm going to make it Raw and get a massive damage boost early on while I round out my other, defensive, attributes. I'd rather that not bite me in the rear end later.
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poptart_fairy posted:I forget, can you undo Infusions? Yes.
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Raw it is then! Finding a ton of interesting weapons and gear even in the first area, so I don't want to commit to anything just yet.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Ecch. Spreading stats that wide makes me paranoid until I know the game better. Quality build it is. There's a respec option.
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Harrow posted:I'm not super sure how strong pyromancy would be at 15/15, and you'd be missing the requirements for a few really good pyromancies. I think it's more important that you use the three pyromancy-enhancing rings than having the best possible scaling stats, so your low-requirement pyromancies should be able to hit pretty hard, but you're still missing out on things like this game's version of Forbidden Sun. thanks a ton for this, I guess I'm going pure pyro! how hard is it to meet the stat requirements for armor? something about a heavy armor pyro sounds great, but I'm afraid of not having enough points to dump into vit/end/whatever
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