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the Xanthous Crown has continued its trend of getting tinier and tinier every game. DS3 confirmed for poo poo
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bef posted:uhh whats bloodborne like Mostly linear progression between areas, multiple paths through each area with plentiful shortcuts inside each area.
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Apr 11, 2016 18:52
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that sounds good but no loop around/full circle stuff like ds1? i take it
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Apr 11, 2016 18:53
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God I'm so excited I could hit my dick with a hammer
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Apr 11, 2016 18:53
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are bows real weapons now or still joke-y secondary weapons?
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Apr 11, 2016 18:55
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bef posted:that sounds good but no loop around/full circle stuff like ds1? i take it Yeah. Think Demon's Souls/DS1-like level design (complex areas) but without looping around to other areas and a lot of inter-area connections. Apparently DS3's areas are notably larger than Bloodborne's, too, and it has a few more side-areas.
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Apr 11, 2016 18:55
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This is very helpful thank you. Sucks that you need to pay 20k souls though Lunchmeat Larry posted:the Xanthous Crown has continued its trend of getting tinier and tinier every game. DS3 confirmed for poo poo WHAT Pre-order canceled 
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Apr 11, 2016 18:55
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all sounds good to me  can't wait y'all, love this series
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Apr 11, 2016 18:56
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Mortimer posted:are bows real weapons now or still joke-y secondary weapons? bows have always been good
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Apr 11, 2016 18:58
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b0red posted:bows have always been good don't lie to my face
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Apr 11, 2016 19:00
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b0red posted:bows have always been good My Dex/Faith DS1 run was absolute trash outside of the Moonlight Bow, which let me kill Manus. Bows good. e: It was so bad that in order to not get destroyed by Artorias, my lovely character joined forces with two other poo poo-people to form a mediocre squad. There were casualties. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Apr 11, 2016 19:01
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bows are good for the 5% of the game you can use them, I want to know if I can go 100% bows never touching magic or melee
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Apr 11, 2016 19:02
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Mortimer posted:don't lie to my face He's not, they were fine, just more utility weapons than actual primary weapons. There are weapon arts now, so I assume bows are a bit better than before. EDIT: It doesn't seem like you can do that.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:03
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bef posted:uhh whats bloodborne like DS2 basically, but for some reason he's averse to saying it. Linear, but dense within the context of those areas.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:04
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Hello thread. I had a great sleep. I hope you did too.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:06
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Captain Oblivious posted:DS2 basically, but for some reason he's averse to saying it. It's a bit different than that. DS2 was a hub area with a bunch of completely separate straight paths shooting off from it. Bloodborne was a straight line with some dead-end offshoots.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:07
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OK, so defeated the first three "proper" bosses as both Claymore lady and sneaky thief. Think I'm going to stick with the latter for now - push luck to get the most out of bleed on the bandit knife, with a raw weapon as back-up. Bow for sniping and silly quick poison stacking. I have no doubt this will cause me a ton of frustration later on but it feels like a very fluid playstyle. Something very satisfying about slipping underneath a monster, castrating the bastard and then zipping away before they can retaliate.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:08
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bloodborne was like demon's souls with some more shortcuts, but still not as many as DS1
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Apr 11, 2016 19:09
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if anyone else ordered from cdkeys.com and is panicing at their site being down, their facebook says it'll be up in an hour with DS3 keys available at that time. can't wait to log on at 6:00 and see literally hundreds of 'praise the sun!' messages in the first possible area. I'll add one.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:10
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In the forth month of the year of our Lord 2016, this will be a Video Game For Playing. I hope there's a new weapon as dumb/cool as "an anvil chained to a stick"
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Apr 11, 2016 19:11
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RBA Starblade posted:My Dex/Faith DS1 run was absolute trash outside of the Moonlight Bow, which let me kill Manus. Bows good. Uh... how did you manage to gently caress up so badly. Dex/fth is one of the strongest builds in Dark Souls. Something like Falchion+DMB/SLB shits out stupid amounts of damage.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:12
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Captain Oblivious posted:DS2 basically, but for some reason he's averse to saying it. Eh, I wouldn't say Bloodborne's world design is the same as DS2. On a macro level, yes, there aren't really any complex interconnections between areas, though to be fair to DS2, Bloodborne is more linear than DS2. Within each area, though, Bloodborne tends to have more complex layouts, because it prefers to loop back on itself and have the player hunt for shortcuts. DS2, by comparison, tends to be more about continuing forward and finding new bonfies. There are a couple of areas where that isn't the case, like No Man's Wharf or some of the DLC areas, but for the most part the areas tend towards "find another bonfire" rather than "find a shortcut." That's the difference I'm talking about. (Incidentally, I'm not really sure why people treat DS1's interconnected first half like it's some sort of sacred cow. It's very cool in DS1 and the part of the game before you can warp is really compelling to me, but it's also the only game in the whole series that's had that. Demon's Souls sure as poo poo didn't and I like it more than DS1 as a whole, Bloodborne too.)
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Apr 11, 2016 19:13
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Genocyber posted:Uh... how did you manage to gently caress up so badly. Dex/fth is one of the strongest builds in Dark Souls. Something like Falchion+DMB/SLB shits out stupid amounts of damage. some dummies think dex means non swords, i think
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Apr 11, 2016 19:14
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My favorite thing in a new Souls game is the carpet of messages and bloodstains in the first few areas. Just seeing the pure force of the community running into brick wall after brick wall is amazing.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:16
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So I want to build a sorta Arcane Knight. Up close sword and board with a glowy sword. Cleric Starting class since FAITH seems to be up close style? I'm just trying to feel out how to get started.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:17
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you can literally beat the game with a +10 lightening bow and a lot of arrow spamming.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:17
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Wait, whats that in the op, pyro needs int and faith now? The gently caress? How long have we known about this? Game is out on 3 hours and my planned build just went up in low int/faith flame.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:19
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Vikar Jerome posted:Wait, whats that in the op, pyro needs int and faith now? The gently caress? How long have we known about this? Game is out on 3 hours and my planned build just went up in low int/faith flame. We've known about it for awhile/since Dark Souls 2 technically. I mean 15/15 int/faith is enough to get you the utility spells if that's all that you want.
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Apr 11, 2016 19:20
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Vikar Jerome posted:Wait, whats that in the op, pyro needs int and faith now? The gently caress? How long have we known about this? Game is out on 3 hours and my planned build just went up in low int/faith flame. It's been known for quite a while now. Pyromancy scales equally with Intelligence and Faith, and most (but not all) spells have an Intelligence and/or Faith requirement. (Notably, some very powerful spells have no requirement at all, and most of them have very low requirements.) It soft-caps at 30/30 (or whenever the sum of your Intelligence and Faith is 60, if you want to go for a different balance).
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Genocyber posted:Uh... how did you manage to gently caress up so badly. Dex/fth is one of the strongest builds in Dark Souls. Something like Falchion+DMB/SLB shits out stupid amounts of damage. A lot of poor life choices in stat management and weapon upgrading. I also hosed up a lot of side quests for miracles because I wasn't paying attention. The whole thing was a trainwreck I was determined to salvage. To my credit though I beat Kalameet in single combat with that guy, which I hadn't done before or since.
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m.hache posted:So I want to build a sorta Arcane Knight. Up close sword and board with a glowy sword. Your best bet for an Arcane Knight sort of character is likely going with INT and using sorceries. There are several sorceries that are intended for close-range combat, as well as several weapons that serve as both a regular weapon and a staff (allowing you to cast spells with them).
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Apr 11, 2016 19:23
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Vermain posted:Your best bet for an Arcane Knight sort of character is likely going with INT and using sorceries. There are several sorceries that are intended for close-range combat, as well as several weapons that serve as both a regular weapon and a staff (allowing you to cast spells with them). Worth noting, though, that Faith is almost entirely about melee-range combat and spells, both for buffs and Lightning Spears (which do considerably more damage point-blank). It's not very "Arcane" though. Melee-range sorceries seem kind of lackluster to me, as cool as they are.
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Vermain posted:Your best bet for an Arcane Knight sort of character is likely going with INT and using sorceries. There are several sorceries that are intended for close-range combat, as well as several weapons that serve as both a regular weapon and a staff (allowing you to cast spells with them). Hm. I was thinking more of a class that could buff itself but the sorceries thing sounds awesome. Pyromancer as a base class? or does it make more sense to pick like Knight then factor in the INT stuff later. EDIT: Of course more answer make this more complicated haha
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I'm going deprived into a faith/strength build.
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I've been playing this game blind alongside my wife on the Xbox since the Japanese release and it's been truly one of the greatest gaming experiences of my life. I can't wait for all you shitfuckers to get your hands on it tomorrow and declare that it sucks!
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Space Harrier posted:I've been playing this game blind alongside my wife on the Xbox since the Japanese release and it's been truly one of the greatest gaming experiences of my life. I can't wait for all you shitfuckers to get your hands on it tomorrow and declare that it sucks! 3 1/2 hours for steam
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Any quick tips from the JPN release about not loving up the NPC quests?
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m.hache posted:Hm. If you just want to buff yourself, you don't need much Int/Faith at all. 15 Int/15 Faith gets you all of the pyromancy buffs and some great utilities from both sorcery and miracles. If you want to actually cast spells and deal damage, please note that, while weapon scaling soft-caps at 40, spell scaling doesn't soft-cap until 60 (60 Int for sorceries, 60 Faith for miracles, 30/30 or some combination adding up to 60 for pyromancy). Being an actual caster requires serious investment in your magic stats this time around. I'm also not convinced the melee-range sorceries are all that great, though they can be cool for mixing stuff up and punishing people who roll close to you in PvP. If you want to be mostly in melee, I'd go Faith or even pyromancy before I'd go sorcery, even though there are weapons that double as sorcery catalysts.
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I think I'm just going to roll with Deprived and see what the hell interesting loot I get early on. and pray for a good shield ASAP
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Harrow posted:If you just want to buff yourself, you don't need much Int/Faith at all. 15 Int/15 Faith gets you all of the pyromancy buffs and some great utilities from both sorcery and miracles. Ok that sounds more in line. Does this mean I have to switch out to a Catalyst the buff myself, then back to my weapon? I'll roll a Knight and bump up INT/FAI to 15 to buff.
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