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Given the stodgy styling and the fact that the rear windows are all blacked out, I'd say it's some kind of technology testbed rather than a car prototype. Like they've got some advanced hybrid battery pack or electric drive in there, and they're in the early stages of testing to see how it behaves on the road.
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it was following the Infiniti Red Bull Racing SUV studiously, whatever it was.
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Apr 8, 2016 19:44
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It's a Ford transit wagon whatever it is
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Apr 8, 2016 20:02
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Glass / body looks like it's a 4th generation Nissan Serena. Makes sense if it's following an Infiniti, and it would be RHD since it's only offered in Japan. The front vent glass gives it away.
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Apr 8, 2016 20:08
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It's definitely a Serena. They aren't great fun to drive.
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Apr 8, 2016 20:11
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Mind your own business TYIA
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Uncle Jam posted:It's definitely a Serena. IIRC the diesel model was for a while the slowest automobile sold in the UK. 0-60 in 23.5 seconds.
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Apr 8, 2016 20:34
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Nondescript Van posted:Mind your own business TYIA Okay
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Nondescript Van posted:Mind your own business TYIA Nice.
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Apr 8, 2016 21:25
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Whiz Palace posted:IIRC the diesel model was for a while the slowest automobile sold in the UK. 0-60 in 23.5 seconds. I do believe that would get you killed in Houston where you have approx 8 feet to accelerate to 60
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Twerk from Home posted:I do believe that would get you killed in Houston where you have approx 8 feet to accelerate to 60
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Apr 8, 2016 21:42
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I saw one of the new Civics rolling around Arlington VA today. Holy poo poo, those things are huge! It's like the size of a Mazda 6.
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I thought the new Civic was okay until I saw it in person, they're too large and oddly proportioned with jumbled lines.
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Apr 9, 2016 02:49
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Whiz Palace posted:IIRC the diesel model was for a while the slowest automobile sold in the UK. 0-60 in 23.5 seconds. That is Le Car territory.
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Wheeee posted:I thought the new Civic was okay until I saw it in person, they're too large and oddly proportioned with jumbled lines. The back takes styling cues from the loving Crosstour for some unknown reason.
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fknlo posted:The back takes styling cues from the loving Crosstour for some unknown reason. For me, it feels like they figured that shape out and made it work better. They didn't have to go there, but it's an improvement on the Crosstour.
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It's grown on me in the past few weeks. Sat in one at the dealer and they've improved quite a few things from the previous gen, but the steering wheel controls feel so lovely, and the radio seems like it would be a nightmare to live with. At least they have a dedicated physical toggle to shut off the massive LCD screen for late night highway driving. Definitely feels like an accord inside, and the exterior is a little less bland than before at least?
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Apr 9, 2016 05:00
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Yeah the styling is busy as hell and its huge but it pulls it off. I think it looks better than the F30 3 series, which suffers from the above.
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Twerk from Home posted:I do believe that would get you killed in Houston where you have approx 8 feet to accelerate to 60 That's a super dead road and that's not an onramp. Houston and most of TX has these lovely things called feeder roads. I can assure you, most entering cars on a freeway have a good 1 mile head start on accelerating to speed. Of course there are exceptions to that rule, like the Westpark tollway entrance to 59 right into the chimney rock exit. What a clusterfuck
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The Fit has been the new Civic for quite a while.
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I drove a new Civic today. Rode well, handled well, accelerated nicely with the turbo/automatic, had plenty of room. On the downside, the seats had nono thigh support if you're taller than 6ft, no lower back support, they were generally mushy and unsupportive. The stereo and steering wheel controls were a mess. Interior used nicer bits than the last generation and everything seemed to be put together well. The seats and controls along with the exterior styling would cross the Civic off my list. edit: at least the Civic is just ugly - the Corolla manages to be bland and ugly Goober Peas fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Apr 9, 2016 |
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Why the gently caress cant you buy the new WRX in Hyper Blue with a manual? only autos fuckin everywhere here.
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Apr 10, 2016 12:54
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Because the manuals are the only ones that sell.
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oRenj9 posted:Because the manuals are the only ones that sell. you cant configure it in that colour (in Australia, at least) with a manual.
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Did you try asking the dealer if they can order it in that combo?
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It's limited to 200 autos or 50 STIs. No manual wrx 
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Apr 11, 2016 12:59
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Updated A3, most people fell asleep because the car looks only slightly different at best: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2017-audi-a3-sedan-and-convertible-photos-and-info-news I'm not a huge fan of the weird headlight shape, and a lot of manufacturers seem top be getting weird with them lately. Probably more significant is the RS3 is coming to the US next year as a 2018 model: http://blog.caranddriver.com/confirmed-launch-details-of-the-audi-rs3-sedan/ The no manual is surely a deal killer for many, which I can definitely understand. I have to wonder if they'll address the engine position since reviews of the current RS3 have essentially said the engine is great and makes fantastic noise, but that it's position causes a lot of (Audi typical) understeer and so the Golf R/Audi S3 end up being the better buy handling wise. I'll be really interested to see how BMW, MB and like competitors respond. Perhaps an M2 Gran Coupe with more customization options? Or the next gen CLA keeps it's price point while improving interior quality? Maybe the next gen SS steals some sales too from those that aren't badge loyal? I know car nerds love wagons, but fast sedans warm my heart! 
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$50,000 for a 2.0T AWD jetta. How much is the Focus RS going to sell for again?
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BloodBag posted:$50,000 for a 2.0T AWD jetta. How much is the Focus RS going to sell for again? Less. On one hand, it's a 2.5T Jetta with close to 400 HP. On the other hand, sedan. Bleh. Too bad, I like the look of the hatch. Not that I'm buying anything until I build a proper garage, which adds a bit to the cost of the next car ...
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BloodBag posted:$50,000 for a 2.0T AWD jetta. How much is the Focus RS going to sell for again? Troll post? The RS3 is a five cylinder with quite a bit more power than the Focus in it's current gen. MSRP on the base Focus RS is ~35k, but let's be honest, it's going to be $40k with goodies and dealer markup. If we're calling the Golf R/S3 a Jetta then we should probably just ignore all of the good things about the RS and focus (  GET IT) only on the parts of it's interior that it shares with the regular Focus. I think we can all agree 5 cylinder engines are weird and cool and the Focus RS is weird and cool too. 
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I'd expect the interior to be significantly better than whatever poo poo is in the RS too.
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The big problem with the Audi for me is Audi made it. I don't trust the Chrysler of Germany.
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Sadi posted:The big problem with the Audi for me is Audi made it. I don't trust the Chrysler of Germany. Which German automaker isn't the Chrysler of Germany?
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quote:The current A3 convertible, meanwhile, starts at $37,525, and tops out at $49,375 for a Quattro 2.0T Prestige model. That's what hosed me up, the convertible model, not the RS3. Seat Safety Switch posted:Which German automaker isn't the Chrysler of Germany? I'm trying to think of what wouldn't be the Chrysler of Germany and I'm coming up with nothing. I mean you've got Audi that requires service position for everything and puts timing chains with lovely guides against firewalls along with all other VW malarkey. You've got BMW's GDCS/iDrive computer failures/turbo failures/HPFP failures/subframe tearing. VW with some of the most off the wall horseshit I've ever even heard of like coolant migration. Porsche: IMS bearing failures. Mercedes...What's Mercedes got?
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BloodBag posted:Mercedes...What's Mercedes got? Well, Chrysler's money for one thing 
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W210 awd E-class front spring. I would still consider Mercedes the least "why the gently caress" of the Germans
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That spring setup never ceases to amaze me. For whatever reason reunification ruined German engineers. They went from making simple straightforward cars that just work to overly complicated crap that inevitably light itself on fire or pissed fluid out of taillights as soon as that wall fell.
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1500quidporsche posted:That spring setup never ceases to amaze me. They stole the East Germans' ideas (one Trabant documentary interviewed a major Trabant engineer, who outright claims the "Mk 3" Trabant prototype became the revolutionary Mk1 Rabbit as VW poached their engineers) and then sat on their laurels for multiple decades while marketing stole ad copy from watch manufacturers trying to explain why their movements kept inferior time to a three cent chunk of Japanesium. It's probably the same reason why the rest of the first world's R&D quality has gone to poo poo over the last two decades. Why be the sucker to spend the cash to make a good product when credit is cheap and you can entrench your company overnight through leveraged buyouts of your competitors who wasted their money on product? But in reality it was probably engineering hubris trying to differentiate themselves from Japanese cars. "If we don't do this cool new feature I just came up with right now, the Japanese will mass produce it for a thirtieth of the cost in five years and then we'll really be hosed." Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Which German automaker isn't the Chrysler of Germany? MINI? They're the rover of Germany  BloodBag posted:I'm trying to think of what wouldn't be the Chrysler of Germany and I'm coming up with nothing. I mean you've got Audi that requires service position for everything and puts timing chains with lovely guides against firewalls along with all other VW malarkey. You've got BMW's GDCS/iDrive computer failures/turbo failures/HPFP failures/subframe tearing. VW with some of the most off the wall horseshit I've ever even heard of like coolant migration. Porsche: IMS bearing failures. Mercedes...What's Mercedes got? Don't forget removing the oil dipstick from most cars so that it can only be checked electronically. I think most current gen VW/Audi 2.0Ts have one, but I'm sure it's going away soon. I think almost all of them are actively doing this to the entire lineups? I know BMW is, I can't recall on MBs.  CornHolio posted:Well, Chrysler's money for one thing Hahaha 
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Humbug posted:W210 awd E-class front spring. :wut: Anyway, here's a golden oldie "Sooner or later every car falls apart. Ours does it later!" How have the W212's held up reliability and build quality wise?
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