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El Hefe posted:Somewhere dirty I always wonder if the reverse would be true; someone comes to Canada from Mexico or something and drinks our water and then is laid up in hospital for months due to the lack of essential parasites and bacteria.
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Apr 9, 2016 04:57
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Scaramouche posted:I always wonder if the reverse would be true; someone comes to Canada from Mexico or something and drinks our water and then is laid up in hospital for months due to the lack of essential parasites and bacteria. lol no it doesn't work that way thankfully also if you ever come here don't eat our cheeses either because they are all unpasteurized, delicious but unpasteurized.
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Apr 9, 2016 05:04
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El Hefe posted:lol no it doesn't work that way thankfully So, the word for that in America is "raw" Raw cheese is actually considered quite the delicacy. Perhaps you should export more of your raw cheese to America and sell it for $20 usd/lb.
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Apr 9, 2016 05:12
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Where did all the drat money go? You used to be getting tons of it from oil exports, it has to have been spent on something.
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Apr 9, 2016 05:15
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The Lone Badger posted:Where did all the drat money go? You used to be getting tons of it from oil exports, it has to have been spent on something. We should ask Mossack Fonseca.
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Apr 9, 2016 05:38
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The Lone Badger posted:Where did all the drat money go? You used to be getting tons of it from oil exports, it has to have been spent on something. They had to support the other socialist state in the region. AKA, they bought a shitton of Cuban Cigars.
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Apr 9, 2016 06:40
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The Lone Badger posted:Where did all the drat money go? You used to be getting tons of it from oil exports, it has to have been spent on something. Gone neatly through the giant, gaping hole in our economy that is the currency exchange controls. By shorthanding PDVSA itself and making it sell the oil income at 6,30 bolivares to the dollar, while the actual black market exchange rate rises at a whopping 1150 bolivares to the dollar, literally billions in income have managed to disappear from the books, straight into the pockets of a very corrupt elite.
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Apr 9, 2016 08:09
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The Lone Badger posted:Where did all the drat money go? You used to be getting tons of it from oil exports, it has to have been spent on something. There's a lot of public expenses that were written in the books but are actually unaccounted for, like in most of the inversions in Valencia's Subway Line or more relevantly the starting funds for the Tocoma Dam construction, which its Hydroelectric Plant was supposed to begin easing Guri's and the other Two Dams' Pressure back in between 2012 and 2014...
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Apr 9, 2016 09:29
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The Lone Badger posted:Where did all the drat money go? You used to be getting tons of it from oil exports, it has to have been spent on something. Most of it was used to buy a lot of useless Russian garbage. The rest is lining the pockets of senior PUSV members.
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Doesn't everyone in Venezuela boil tap water every day in order to have somewhat drinkable water? I know we did! Then a friend of the family gifted us a Tinajero and we started filtering our water trough there. I'm phone posting but it's basically a giant porous rock that filters water one drip at a time. And yes, last time I visited from Spain I developed explosive diarrhea. But I blame the burgers, mostly.
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To make dirty water drinkable you need to filter it then sanitise it (in that order). Just filtering it or just sanitising it is insufficient. (By sanitising I mean any process that will kill the microorganisms. Boiling, UV, adding bleach etc) If the water is already clean and clear you can get away with just sanitising it.
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Apr 9, 2016 11:21
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The Lone Badger posted:To make dirty water drinkable you need to filter it then sanitise it (in that order). Just filtering it or just sanitising it is insufficient. Third world country, first class immune system.
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I have no loving idea what my neighbors do, but I buy some big rear end reusable five-gallon water bottles for drinking water. At any time, there's four of those in my kitchen in case of emergencies plus a 60 gallon plastic container that lasts a couple of days in case the water goes away. Last couple of weeks I had a ten day stretch without water where I had to buy ten of those big water bottles every two days just to cook, flush toilets and shower. That was a minimum wage per week spent just on water for two people. About where the money went, everyone knows the majority of it was stolen, the only question is exactly how much. One of Chavez's old ministers famously admitted that government figures had stolen over 25 billion just through exchange rate shenanigans during the latter half of Chavez's presidency. That's without even considering imports with inflated prices, or the money lost in government contract kickbacks. As someone else mentioned, Venezuela's countryside is littered with half-finished (and that's being generous, since they usually just built a few walls and called it a day) grandiose government projects that never materialized, where did that money go?
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Apr 9, 2016 15:40
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My Imaginary GF posted:The answer to Maduro is clear: The leaders of your national assembly need to man the gently caress up and repeat the most dramatic moment of Roman history. Just killing one communist isn't going to be a big enough step towards Killing All Communists. Think bigger.
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Apr 9, 2016 17:38
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M. Discordia posted:Just killing one communist isn't going to be a big enough step towards Killing All Communists. Think bigger. Are you saying Venezuela needs an Augustos?
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Apr 9, 2016 19:55
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We need less killing, actually.
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Apr 9, 2016 22:28
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The amnesty law promulgated by the AN was just declared unconstitutional by the TSJ. We are living in a dictatorship folks.
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El Hefe posted:The amnesty law promulgated by the AN was just declared unconstitutional by the TSJ. Has the AN yet passed a law that hasn't been declared unconstitutional?
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Apr 12, 2016 02:20
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El Hefe posted:The amnesty law promulgated by the AN was just declared unconstitutional by the TSJ. I kinda wish the AN would stop wasting their loving time and actually go through with impeaching Maduro at all costs. They're taking too long and are starting to look incompetent.
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Apr 12, 2016 02:21
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fnox posted:I kinda wish the AN would stop wasting their loving time and actually go through with impeaching Maduro at all costs. They're taking too long and are starting to look incompetent. They can't "legally" do so because of those two missing members though(??) Not that it sounds like the TSJ wouldn't come up with some other BS reason to delegitimize the process but I believe that's still the blocker is it not? Do those seats just stay vacant for the entire session then? ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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fnox posted:I kinda wish the AN would stop wasting their loving time and actually go through with impeaching Maduro at all costs. They're taking too long and are starting to look incompetent. At this point, I think their only card left to play would be to convene massive protests to accelerate the clash of powers, which would end in violence. Theoretically, they could go right ahead and impeach Maduro tomorrow but the Supreme Court will simply slap down anything they do. It's pretty clear the government has chosen to take the fight one day at a time, but they're beset on all sides by impending crises. In a couple of months, there won't be any food, medicine, and possibly even water or electricity unless the rains come soon. Two years ago I thought Leopoldo and Maria Corina were reckless to attempt to force a change in government through the very same means, but I can't see any other way out of the current stalemate without massive protests. Even then, I don't see the PSUV giving up power, at best they'll throw Maduro under the bus and move forward with a new face and more pragmatic measures. Under a real democratic transition, most high-ranking Chavistas would be facing serious jail time and the loss of their ill-gotten fortunes, and they're clearly willing to let people die in order to delay that moment as much as possible. ComradeCosmobot posted:They can't "legally" do so because of those two missing members though(??) Even with a two-thirds majority, they wouldn't have the immediate power to impeach a president unless he failed to perform his duties as stated by the constitution. However, they could destitute the magistrates of the Supreme Court and break the current stalemate, which is why the court took it upon itself invalidate the three deputies they need to have the supermajority. As if it weren't dirty enough that the Supreme Court made it impossible to destitute their own members, on top of most of them having been appointed illegally, the assembly members they cast aside were the three Native American deputies from the Amazonas state. They literally gave the shaft to Native Americans because they knew it's the only group of Venezuelans that are so shafted and underrepresented that they couldn't do anything about it. Labradoodle fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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There are plans to increase the number of magistrates in the constitutional court of the Supreme Court to 15 from 7, but again, there's no way they're gonna let that happen. The AN are powerless, only widespread riots are gonna change things here and there are gonna be riots once the electric system finally collapses.
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El Hefe posted:There are plans to increase the number of magistrates in the constitutional court of the Supreme Court to 15 from 7, but again, there's no way they're gonna let that happen. So surprise everyone and increase 'em overnight and have the new court rule en masse itself legal, Maduro a big poo-poo head, and mud very tasty when the alternative is what Venezuelans will find available in government stores next month.
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Now there's a idolization of lynching going on all over the social networks. There have been lots of lynching going on lately and many of them are recorded and posted everywhere. Not only that but the sentiment is that lynching is actually positive. I got into a pretty heated argument with my friends the other day because they were supporting it. These are people I consider smart and good. Everything is at a boiling point in Venezuela and lynchings are just a consequence. There's always been resentment towards the criminals that smother the regular Venezuelan every day (understandably) but now that things are at an all time low and you literally can't replace whatever is stolen because there's no money or products, regular people are starting to push against those that would take what they have left. Not to start a debate about lynching, but I find it scary that people are advocating outright killing those who steal due to Venezuelan authorities being completely useless. Things are so bad in Venezuela we're turning into murderers, now.
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 Reading that is terrifying, Hugoon Chavez. Venegoons...Please for the love of all that is good and holy, stay safe. In less worried tones: poo poo like that is going to leave a mark on Venezuelan society, and it won't be a good kind of mark. Venegoons, do you see Venezuelan society recovering from this stuff within 20 years, even? 40? Because my sense is of a country that is a few short steps from being Somalia 2.0.
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Society has greatly decayed, starting from Chavez's double speak that rich people are bad while simultaneously he and his family were becoming the richest people in the country which has led to widespread resentment and a sharp increase in crime, the whole Chavizmo v Opposition situation that has separated family and friends like it never had before in our history... I mean there are so many stories to tell because living here its anything but boring but the saddest thing is they are almost never positive ones.
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Apr 13, 2016 15:36
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IMF says inflation this year its going to be 481.5% and next year it raises to 1.642,8% lol lets just all kill ourselves now this poo poo is so depressing
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Apr 13, 2016 15:47
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Jesus Hefe I want to get you out of there and I don't know how 
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Poison Jam posted:Jesus Hefe I want to get you out of there and I don't know how Start your own business and hire him.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Start your own business and hire him. If I could I would've already done that.
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Poison Jam posted:If I could I would've already done that. What's stopping you? I'm in the process of doing that to help some qualified international friends. Why can't you?
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Man don't feel too bad for me, I am in a much better position than a lot of people, yesterday I saw a news article about a woman who gave birth standing in line at a supermarket... and about that: hundreds of newborns are dying because hospitals don't have the most basic medicines to treat simple infections
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Apr 13, 2016 18:09
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El Hefe posted:Man don't feel too bad for me, I am in a much better position than a lot of people, yesterday I saw a news article about a woman who gave birth standing in line at a supermarket... No no no, is no child mortality in socialist paradise Venezuela. You is mistaken; is late-term abortions, as Venezuela only nation to stand up to catholic church in south america. Is socialists utopias 
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My Imaginary GF posted:What's stopping you? I'm in the process of doing that to help some qualified international friends. Why can't you? Being disabled (quite literally unable to get off my backside), unable to work and being poor as poo poo. Otherwise I would do that. Wait I'm in England so they would send him straight back, I just remembered why you have a reputation
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Poison Jam posted:Being disabled (quite literally unable to get off my backside), unable to work and being poor as poo poo. Otherwise I would do that. Wait I'm in England so they would send him straight back, I just remembered why you have a reputation Excuses. You're clearly able to type --- organize some project proposals, make connections, start an org, and offer him a placement.
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Poison Jam posted:Being disabled (quite literally unable to get off my backside), unable to work and being poor as poo poo. Otherwise I would do that. Wait I'm in England so they would send him straight back, I just remembered why you have a reputation Don't mind MIGF. He's... uh... just kind of like that. Don't take it personally.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Excuses. You're clearly able to type --- organize some project proposals, make connections, start an org, and offer him a placement. My carer or a friend types things for me but who loving cares this is a Venezuela thread and you're a tosspot so I'll just leave it. I hope things get better somehow there but I'm worried about what will happen when the dam stops operating. e: Constant Hamprince posted:Don't mind MIGF. He's... uh... just kind of like that. Don't take it personally. Why would I take that thing seriously? Nobody else ever has
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I'm leaving this year for Sweden, this August actually. I'm trying to find a job that pays in dollars, and well, I'm trying to get the funds to be somewhat comfortable outside. There is no hope for this country, chaos is coming, and it's inevitable.
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