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grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
How long has there been a desktop version of Army?

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Baron Snow
Feb 8, 2007


6 hours, according to the Facebook announcement.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Oh. Well, there you go. I'm not on FB, so this is news to me.

Works pretty well on Win10. It's nice not having to wait five seconds to select a unit.

PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

Desktop app seems to work well, though the hacker lists still seem to steadfastly refuse to put GADGET 1 on the list.

Sir Teabag
Oct 26, 2007
Would this work on Android? That would be pretty rad as my FLGS has terrible internet and cell reception in the gaming dungeon.

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark
What's wrong with Zerats? I'm new and poo poo, but they don't seem that bad.

PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

Sir Teabag posted:

Would this work on Android? That would be pretty rad as my FLGS has terrible internet and cell reception in the gaming dungeon.

WIndows and Linux only right now. But according to some facebook responses they're working on Mac and "mobile" apps. :toot:

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Sanguine posted:

What's wrong with Zerats? I'm new and poo poo, but they don't seem that bad.

They're absolutely poo poo skirmishers w/r/t points efficiency (which in CA is your lord and master second only to the EI itself). Their cheapest specialist option is a hacker at 25 pts and 0.5 SWC. With mimetism. In comparison, in vanilla CA 25 pts gets me a Shrouded FO, with full camouflage (which improves its survivability a lot as the enemy has to waste orders to discover him and still possibly fail), mines (again, poo poo some mines around a console and make the mission more annoying to your enemy), and an automedikit which saved my rear end more than a few times. And if you play area control you have to kill him dead-dead because even unconscious he scores area control due to the Shasvastii rule. And if I want a hacker for the 5 pts /0.5 SWC more, there's a chance that the enemy won't know that one of the camo markers is a hacker and will stumble into the hacking area.

Zerats don't have mines, don't have medkits, don't have camo so even behind total cover they'll get splattered by the first speculative LGL shot that comes their way and they can't set a hacking trap without hauling their asses to the target, what do they have? The Morat rule, which makes them incapable of ducking into total cover (where you'd want a lovely mission-oriented skirmisher) without passing a Guts roll. Oh, and D-Charges I guess. Which I have on Ko Dali and Rasyats too.

And that's for CA, aka the elite faction. A camo infiltrating specialist in Ariadna is 18-19 points.

In HSN3 Zerats get a FO profile for 22 points, which might mean they'll get fielded in Morat lists every once in a while (still not a chance in vanilla CA).

dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.

StErN posted:

Babby's first Infinity model


Looks pretty good. Would probably brighten up the orange in the helmet if you feel confident highlighting in that tiny space.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
Some really excellent tournament reports and pictures coming in over the past week! Did not fully realise we had such an impressive lot of tournament players around. Great writeups Mr Squarepants and Sir Teabag. EDIT: do these titles mean that tokenbrownguy is now Lord Tokenbrownguy?

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark
I've been absolutely stomped by a tiger soldier for about 5 games in a row now. We're playing 150 pts, I'm maf, and he'll manage to pick off 80% of my monkeys in the first turn.

How do I counter him? With the initiative he can wiggle just right so it's always his B4 on 9 or 12 against my one on 6 or 9. Anything I should try, or is the counter to mimetic airborne troops just luck?

MJ12
Apr 8, 2009

Sanguine posted:

I've been absolutely stomped by a tiger soldier for about 5 games in a row now. We're playing 150 pts, I'm maf, and he'll manage to pick off 80% of my monkeys in the first turn.

How do I counter him? With the initiative he can wiggle just right so it's always his B4 on 9 or 12 against my one on 6 or 9. Anything I should try, or is the counter to mimetic airborne troops just luck?

As I understand the counter is to position your rear-line troops so they're capable of AROing to good positions he might drop in on, so he has to waste orders moving him around into a good position after dropping him farther from the battlefield than you'd like. I'd suggest that multi-wound or pseudo multi-wound models are even worse. Tohaa and (Vanilla/Onyx) EI drop troops are super good for that reason, because you can hot-drop them into places where the enemy has a line of fire, and the Caskuda was ridiculously OP because of the same reason.

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

Genghis Cohen posted:

Some really excellent tournament reports and pictures coming in over the past week! Did not fully realise we had such an impressive lot of tournament players around. Great writeups Mr Squarepants and Sir Teabag. EDIT: do these titles mean that tokenbrownguy is now Lord Tokenbrownguy?

Not if I get stomped at GenCon!

Sanguine posted:

I've been absolutely stomped by a tiger soldier for about 5 games in a row now. We're playing 150 pts, I'm maf, and he'll manage to pick off 80% of my monkeys in the first turn.

How do I counter him? With the initiative he can wiggle just right so it's always his B4 on 9 or 12 against my one on 6 or 9. Anything I should try, or is the counter to mimetic airborne troops just luck?

I ran into these profiles the other day. My buddy is trying Yu JIng lists to get a feel for the faction. I think a decent counter for scary AD in general is Camo'd models in the DZ. Folks will be much less eager to go rampaging through your order pool when there's 360 vision silhouettes chilling out in LoF. Bonus points if those silhouettes are packing long range, heavy damage guns, and can safely punish an aggressive model from cover. Trying to discover well placed camo in the friendly DZ should be painstakingly difficult, due to the range for enemy models placed in the enemy DZ/regular infil, and because of the risk for aggressive models in the DZ due to overlapping friendly LoF. TRO bots are nice, but they can get Shotgun'd or Hacked to death pretty easily. With a camo model, your opponent never knows what they'll run into. They can only theorize your defensive camo and spend orders to reveal it.

On the other hand, imo the real counter to aggressive plays on Turn 1 is orders. Who cares if your opponent knocks out a few regular orders or a specialist when you're packing an order heavy list? If they burnt a good 75% of their orders on killing dudes, their specialists and backline should be exposed/vulnerable or played extremely defensively. Now you get to punish their aggressiveness, wipe out their (now visible) Hidden Deployment models, and set up against/strike back against their regular deployment models that have now advanced up the field. As for Turns 2/3, be sure to coordinated order up some side-map/good AD spot location dudes to put into suppressive fire. You can't ever stop the threat of AD, but you can make it, as MJ12 says, expensive for their order pool.

Unfortunately, as CA Morats, seems like you have neither cheap orders, nor good defensive camo. As someone who isn't super familiar with the faction, I'd say bring all the cheap templates and TRO you can possibly afford.

Exmond
May 31, 2007

Writing is fun!

Sanguine posted:

I've been absolutely stomped by a tiger soldier for about 5 games in a row now. We're playing 150 pts, I'm maf, and he'll manage to pick off 80% of my monkeys in the first turn.

How do I counter him? With the initiative he can wiggle just right so it's always his B4 on 9 or 12 against my one on 6 or 9. Anything I should try, or is the counter to mimetic airborne troops just luck?

Careful positioning and sacrifical lambs. I play USAriadna so I have some grunts with heavy flamethrowers guarding my flanks.

Switch the playfield and pretend you are your opponent. Identify any units he will want to attack and protect them with your sacrificial lambs, or identify any spots where they can jump.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.
Also, play with more points. Given the expensiveness of MAF troopers, 150 is kind of hamstringing yourself. Our resident angry ape player (BlackIronHeart) has encountered some of the same kinds of problems in low-points games because it's hard to get decent damage dealers yet still have enough points left over to feed them orders.

But in addition to the suggestions others have given, if you're worries about your cheerleaders getting taken out by an AD trooper before you even get your first turn, deploy your Vanguard as a link team, especially if you can position it to cover some likely avenues of approach. Yes, it reduces your overall board control, but no AD trooper in his right mind is going to drop anywhere near the ARO rat's-nest that is a Link Team.

Then, once it's your turn and/or his AD trooper is on the ground, drop the Vanguard link and burn a Command Token to reform a link with your primary damage dealers (Rodoks or whatever).

AD troopers are good, but unless they get super lucky and manage to drop exactly into a spot where you have zero LOS to them, you always get at least one free shot on them.

Exmond
May 31, 2007

Writing is fun!
Id just like to say..

gently caress Yuan's Yuan's

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Speaking of links and AD.

Let's say I have three Hellcats. Can I link them off-table? If so, does link-leader triggering AROs still apply, like charging a TR bot with a disposable link? Because that sounds like an expensive way to annoy the hell out of someone when they can only ARO one model as they all drop in.

Tentacle Party
Jul 2, 2003

(breathing intensifies)

Exmond posted:

Id just like to say..

gently caress Yuan's Yuan's

My QK starter should arrive today, i'll keep this in mind!

Signal
Dec 10, 2005

grassy gnoll posted:

Speaking of links and AD.

Let's say I have three Hellcats. Can I link them off-table? If so, does link-leader triggering AROs still apply, like charging a TR bot with a disposable link? Because that sounds like an expensive way to annoy the hell out of someone when they can only ARO one model as they all drop in.

Hellcats aren't linkable, are they? Just Wildcats.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

grassy gnoll posted:

Speaking of links and AD.
Mutually exclusive.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Dang. I need to research before I get smart ideas.

I really hope that gets attention at some point. It'll break my greasy little heart if the next book rolls around and Margot and Duroc don't get Duo, if nothing else, though I guess AD: Inf isn't as beastly as AD: Superior.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

grassy gnoll posted:

It'll break my greasy little heart if the next book rolls around and Margot and Duroc don't get Duo
They don't.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
Nah, Acheron or whatever it ends up being, not HSN3.

MRRF didn't get bumped again, did it?

Black_Nexus
Mar 15, 2007

Nurgle loves ya

grassy gnoll posted:

Nah, Acheron or whatever it ends up being, not HSN3.

MRRF didn't get bumped again, did it?

Nah we are in the next book, you know whenever that happens.

MJ12
Apr 8, 2009

Pierzak posted:

Mutually exclusive.

Can't you coordinated order a mass jump though, which only allows 1 ARO?

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

MJ12 posted:

Can't you coordinated order a mass jump though, which only allows 1 ARO?
It's not linking. You still pay a command token and lose the units' regular orders, and you don't get the extra order efficiency afterwards.

Exmond
May 31, 2007

Writing is fun!

MJ12 posted:

Can't you coordinated order a mass jump though, which only allows 1 ARO?

Yes you can.

http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Airborne_Deployment_(AD)

However all troopers using the coordinate order have to use the same rules and enter/jump on the same side/template.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

Pierzak posted:

It's not linking. You still pay a command token and lose the units' regular orders, and you don't get the extra order efficiency afterwards.

So you are paying a CT for no benefit?

Aix Athanatos
Nov 3, 2011

Not a viking posted:

So you are paying a CT for no benefit?

Drop the same bunch of guys on the same template or board edge and only provoke 1 ARO for the lot. Still not a great benefit IMO but it's something.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Not a viking posted:

So you are paying a CT for no benefit?

Well, technically the whole group triggers a single ARO, and if you hosed up your AD1 declarations you can override them with Van Zant's Tactical Jump, but generally, yeah, that's very niche and inefficient otherwise.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


ze gogggles, they make me outrageously good and undercosted

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

If I had Marksman L2 I'd never stop hip-firing either. Gotta arc them bullets.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes




Is this a Locust?

darnon
Nov 8, 2009

Cat Face Joe posted:

Is this a Locust?

Spetsnasz HMG I believe.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Spetsnaz HMG with Spetsnaz sniper's exact body and legs, but recast with a reposed head and new tactical crap. :nallears:

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



darnon posted:

Spetsnasz HMG I believe.

Pierzak posted:

Spetsnaz HMG with Spetsnaz sniper's exact body and legs, but recast with a reposed head and new tactical crap. :nallears:

Hm. The Fusiler beret threw me off.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
You can tell he's a Rodina model because he's got the blue and white ring shirt, which all Russians are born with.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


when I was living in russia I started to grow a telnyashka, it truly is the most russian of clothing

looks rad too

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Condoleezza Nice!
Jan 4, 2010

Lite som Robin Hood
fast inte

*Plasters the walls with cum*

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