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Maybe Poland and Russia have had an assasin war going for the last 20 years and most of those weird deaths of Russian generals are caused by Poles. Russians decide to concentrate their effords on big strikes instead 
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alex314 posted:Maybe Poland and Russia have had an assasin war going for the last 20 years and most of those weird deaths of Russian generals are caused by Poles. Russians decide to concentrate their effords on big strikes instead Litvinenko was killed with polonium.
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Apr 12, 2016 17:44
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Yeah, the mighty Polish army totally needed crippling. They seriously believe they are relevant to something like Russia?
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Apr 12, 2016 17:53
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anilEhilated posted:Yeah, the mighty Polish army totally needed crippling. They seriously believe they are relevant to something like Russia? Doesn't Poland live in constant fear that Russia is going to try and restart the USSR and start rolling past Ukraine? I don't think their obvious invasion of Ukraine and Crimea is helping matters.
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Apr 12, 2016 19:06
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chitoryu12 posted:Doesn't Poland live in constant fear that Russia is going to try and restart the USSR and start rolling past Ukraine? I don't think their obvious invasion of Ukraine and Crimea is helping matters. I wouldn't call it fear, not in Poland and not anywhere else in eastern Europe. A few foreign journalists have asked me this when I've been in uniform. "Aren't you afraid that Russia might invade Estonia" ? *snort* of course I'm not afraid.
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Apr 12, 2016 19:48
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55 years ago today, Yuri Gagarin becomes the first man in space. Russia decides to celebrate.
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ringu0 posted:55 years ago today, Yuri Gagarin becomes the first man in space. Russia decides to celebrate. They misspelled their swastika.
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Apr 12, 2016 20:36
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ringu0 posted:55 years ago today, Yuri Gagarin becomes the first man in space. Russia decides to celebrate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnwZo2bUjAU Greetings, Maj. Gagarin!
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steinrokkan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnwZo2bUjAU Another version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKcbI4DzP5k This song fits the occasion as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbAewzcFtlE And a few more on the theme of space travel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaBzp6cNTW0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TYqDTvMwUU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfJBC72O7mM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkdsIcqAglQ
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ringu0 posted:55 years ago today, Yuri Gagarin becomes the first man in space. Russia decides to celebrate. They are just thanking the people that made it possible.
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chitoryu12 posted:Doesn't Poland live in constant fear that Russia is going to try and restart the USSR and start rolling past Ukraine? I don't think their obvious invasion of Ukraine and Crimea is helping matters.
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I think the Polish army is large and well-equipped enough to give the Russians a pause and to make them consider sabotage over direct invasion, if you live in the Tom Clancy world of the Red Menace crossing the borders any day now.
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It's less about rational fear, more that "resisting a foreign invader" is one of the core elements of the modern Polish culture. It prevailed in its formative years (when Poland was divided between three other countries) and got cranked up to 11 after the Nazi invasion and 50 years of being a Russian satellite country. Starting from the elementary school, the Polish child is bombarded with imagery of plucky Polish heroes standing up to the foreign oppressor and winning - well, at least morally. It's not even conscious indoctrination - it's just the fact that our best poets, writers and artists wouldn't shut the gently caress up about independence. Polish nationalism was never based on feelings of superiority, but fear that someone will come and make us slaves again. Hence the fears of Russia, who did gently caress with us before - hence for many people it's only natural they are going to do this now.
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At a Moscow bus stop.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:At a Moscow bus stop. Who's paying for these? 
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Apr 13, 2016 07:21
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sparatuvs posted:Who's paying for these?
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The proposed doubling of monetary fine rates did not go through in the Estonian parliament. However, of 101 MPs 50 still voted for it. One coalition member was absent and three of them voted against it. No problem, it was surely an accident. It will work the next time surely, after they have instilled some party discipline. I'm now half-wishing that it would go through, to just give the opposition more ammunition before next year's elections. jonnypeh fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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steinrokkan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnwZo2bUjAU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKjNOj8KAvM (Title is "For the hero of my childhood", it's about Gagarin)
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steinrokkan posted:I think the Polish army is large and well-equipped enough to give the Russians a pause and to make them consider sabotage over direct invasion, if you live in the Tom Clancy world of the Red Menace crossing the borders any day now. The Poles have actually built up a decent army. On paper, it could beat the comically underfunded Bundeswehr and take Berlin. Russia would get a proper bloody nose if it tried anything.
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redscare posted:The Poles have actually built up a decent army. On paper, it could beat the comically underfunded Bundeswehr and take Berlin. Russia would get a proper bloody nose if it tried anything. Yeah, I was not being sarcastic, the Polish army is genuinely impressive for the country of its size.
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steinrokkan posted:Yeah, I was not being sarcastic, the Polish army is genuinely impressive for the country of its size. It's more a sign of messed up priorities.
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sparatuvs posted:It's more a sign of messed up priorities. Looking at ukraine, those priorities aren't that messed up.
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drilldo squirt posted:Looking at ukraine, those priorities aren't that messed up. correct
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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So it looks like there will be a Hroysman government in Ukraine after all -- the coalition voted for it in its own meeting (though the Rada vote is still outstanding). Making it work seems to have required an absurd number of Vice Prime Ministers. Highlights of negotiations mostly involved Ukrainian and Western press demonstrating poor quality of their work (OMG, they are horse-trading over ministerial portofolios, how barbaric --- did they think Steinmeier became German FM because he was the best person in the country for the job?), including complete inability to adjust poorly sourced preconceptions based on actual evidence (what do you mean Hroysman has his own opinions? We KNOW he is Poroshenko's puppet, so clearly this is just super-disfuction unique to Ukraine, and not a politician being less than 100%-aligned with their mentor, which happens everywhere else). Also present was traditional over willingness to take anything journalist/MP Leschenko says as true uncritically, not at all tempered by his inability to do his actual MP job. OddObserver fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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drilldo squirt posted:Looking at ukraine, those priorities aren't that messed up. Russia isn't gonna invade Poland. 
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sparatuvs posted:Russia isn't gonna invade Poland. "Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine", " Russia isn't going to annex Crimea" ---- lots of people slightly over 2 years ago. Having enough of a military that Russia can't even think of a fait accompli is one way of actually making the prediction true.
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sparatuvs posted:Russia isn't gonna invade Poland. Because of the Polish tank horde, duh.
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Apr 13, 2016 17:54
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Russia is still a rational actor, Ukraine has proved that. Don't turn it into a mindless bogeyman who wants to invade for the sake of painting the map like some eu4 player. Plus I can't get banned after we all perish in nuclear hellfire.
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sparatuvs posted:Russia is still a rational actor, Ukraine has proved that. Don't turn it into a mindless bogeyman who wants to invade for the sake of painting the map like some eu4 player. From a western "sovereign states are inviolable unless the violator is America and the violee is a desert shithole" perspective that's not rational.
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Apr 13, 2016 17:58
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Looks like I get to meet a real life cyborg tomorrow! quote:You are cordially invited to attend the screening
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Delpino posted:Looks like I get to meet a real life cyborg tomorrow! Is this a public event? Can you still RSVP?
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OddObserver posted:"Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine", " Russia isn't going to annex Crimea" ---- lots of people slightly over 2 years ago. Having enough of a military that Russia can't even think of a fait accompli is one way of actually making the prediction true. Unless Ukraine joined NATO slightly over 2 years ago, it's still not that compelling of evidence. It'd be like saying because America invaded Iraq, North Korea is next. Invading random politically isolated nations is nothing like invading nations with explicit mutual defense pacts with nuclear superpowers.
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sparatuvs posted:Is this a public event? Can you still RSVP? It was an invite, and I don't see anything on the embassy's page about it so I don't think it's a public event unfortunately.
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Russian warplanes have aggressively zipped around a US destroyer a dozen times in the Baltic: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36039703 Is Putin trying to call our bluff? Or are we calling his?
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Grouchio posted:Russian warplanes have aggressively zipped around a US destroyer a dozen times in the Baltic: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36039703 I don't know grouchio, but it definitely means ww3 starts tomorrow.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:41
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sparatuvs posted:Russia is still a rational actor, Ukraine has proved that. Don't turn it into a mindless bogeyman who wants to invade for the sake of painting the map like some eu4 player. Invasion is not the only way for Russia to bully Poland if it didn't have a strong military deterrent. THough the threat of political destabilization doesn't seem so bad now that PiS is a thing...
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blowfish posted:From a western "sovereign states are inviolable unless the violator is America and the violee is a desert shithole" perspective that's not rational. That, or Haiti.
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Grouchio posted:Russian warplanes have aggressively zipped around a US destroyer a dozen times in the Baltic: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36039703 It's the same ship they buzzed in the Black Sea in 2014. Leave USS Donald Cook alone!
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sparatuvs posted:I don't know grouchio, but it definitely means ww3 starts tomorrow. Good, good. See you all in hell.
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No doubt they will be telling us how just like a year ago, even more effeminate homowesterners serving on that ship have resigned over the incident.
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