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be nice wicka posted:you literally called me a raving autistic for suggesting we should read articles correctly edit: eh, I'll not continue this onto a new page. What I said was more or less already said. 1500quidporsche posted:Why was in banned in 87? I don't remember the rule changes for that year. sleepwalkers fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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1500quidporsche posted:Understandable on Arrows part, didn't the B186 pretty much mop the floor against them and Brabham? The BT55 and A9 were not good cars, the BT55 was hampered by the weird-rear end engine position. I think the A10 and BT56 wouldn't have had that much of a problem though.
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sleepwalkers posted:edit: eh, I'll not continue this onto a new page. What I said was more or less already said. I like 8W Forix. The F1 Rejects forums are also good for weird/bad cars.
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sleepwalkers posted:As a new fan, these older cars are absolutely insane. Is there a decent resource for seeing some of the crazier designs and whether they were any good or not? If you're technically inclined HGP had a really good website for engines a while back I can post when I get home. Somebody else had a link from a forum where a guy that rebuild older cars for rich fuckers explained alot of poo poo although I forget who posted that.
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I liked in old cars how you were able to see the entire engine/gearbox because it was all uncovered
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Here; http://www.grandprixengines.co.uk/
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1500quidporsche posted:If you're technically inclined HGP had a really good website for engines a while back I can post when I get home. Somebody else had a link from a forum where a guy that rebuild older cars for rich fuckers explained alot of poo poo although I forget who posted that. That'd be awesome. I am maybe the least technically inclined person on the planet when it comes to cars and racing, but even if I don't understand the details, I enjoy reading about that stuff. Even just getting a rough grasp on comparative differences and the discrepancies in strategy/goals is fascinating. ^^ Thanks!
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sleepwalkers posted:edit: eh, I'll not continue this onto a new page. What I said was more or less already said. Ever seen a six wheeled F1 car before?  Now you have
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I really wish Tyrell survived. They were the last true small budget/big ideas team.
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El Hefe posted:I liked in old cars how you were able to see the entire engine/gearbox because it was all uncovered i had a shot from the rear but i appear to have retardedly deleted it (thanks 16gb iphone). that exhaust tho, it looks like it should double as a machine gun. 
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1500quidporsche posted:I really wish Tyrell survived. They were the last true small budget/big ideas team. They did. Tyrell -> BAR -> Honda -> Brawn -> Mercedes
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In the same way you could say Minardi survived, yeah I guess they did.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Ever seen a six wheeled F1 car before?    Also this 
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1500quidporsche posted:In the same way you could say Minardi survived, yeah I guess they did. i still miss have consistent backmarkers as respectable as minardi. minardi never felt like they were innately poo poo like hrt/caterham/marussia did, they just didn't have any money and competed as best they could under those constraints.
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be nice wicka posted:i still miss have consistent backmarkers as respectable as minardi. minardi never felt like they were innately poo poo like hrt/caterham/marussia did, they just didn't have any money and competed as best they could under those constraints. It's because they were a midfield/lower-midfield team (See also: Larrousse) until everybody behind them vanished due to rising costs in the mid 90s. The last real privateer was Forti.
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1500quidporsche posted:Yeah none of those poo poo teams felt like they'd get any better if they had more cash. It certainly seemed like for a while Caterham had some cash thrown at it and they were still hot garbage. gently caress Caterham for making Kamui Kobayashi look like garbage.
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be nice wicka posted:i still miss have consistent backmarkers as respectable as minardi. minardi never felt like they were innately poo poo like hrt/caterham/marussia did, they just didn't have any money and competed as best they could under those constraints. I'd be more inclined to support Toro Minardi if it wasn't run by an energy drinks empire. Edit: plucky Australians and what not
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Norns posted:gently caress Caterham for making Kamui Kobayashi look like garbage. i still regularly watch the japanese gp podium where he finished third and the crowd went loving nuts
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Kamui is pretty good in Formula Nippon, I wish him luck in the WEC.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Ever seen a six wheeled F1 car before? I don't know whether my favorite thing about this car is that it has six wheels or that it's sponsored by travelers checks.
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Well, it is from 1976.
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Kamui tweets with porn stars just like Lewis.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:I am not attacking you, that is the difference, you seem to take offence at everything and any criticism tor differing opions to what you say you take unbelievably personal and will proceed to try and 'out argue' <insert opponent of the day here> until you are satisfied that everyone has got the message on how pedantic you are. I mean christ on a stick you are too much sometimes. This pretty much is my observation as well.
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I don't think I could ever tell what wicka+somebody were arguing about well enough to form an opinion on it.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I don't think I could ever tell what wicka+somebody were arguing about well enough to form an opinion on it. my cat was running across the keyboard
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Now I have Robert Miles' Children playing in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwqmJilXxJY
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I don't think I could ever tell what wicka+somebody were arguing about well enough to form an opinion on it. Well at least I'm making a name for myself in this thread. This is actually my favorite 6 wheeler because it actually worked enough that the FIA got scared and preemptively banned 4WD F1DriverQuidenBerg fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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1500quidporsche posted:Well at least I'm making a name for myself in this thread. too many syllables in the username IMO
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I trust 1500quidporsche's opinion on engine dynamics far more than I trust wika's insane ramblings over perceived misunderstandings in an article based on speculation. I do however, love reading it.
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Either way its done. Me and Wicka sorted it and we're best buds now. edit: also for the sake of everyone's sanity it is fine to shorten it to 1500q or something else. F1DriverQuidenBerg fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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MustardFacial posted:I trust 1500quidporsche's opinion on engine dynamics far more than I trust wika's insane ramblings over perceived misunderstandings in an article based on speculation. I do however, love reading it. The article was pretty confusingly written.
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autosport shipped all their talent to Motorsport.com ilu 1500q xoxo
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be nice wicka posted:autosport shipped all their talent to Motorsport.com autosport went to poo poo ever since they decided to dig their own grave by doing the bullshit paywall
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one thousand five hundred British pound porsche posted:edit: also for the sake of everyone's sanity it is fine to shorten it to 1500q or something else. Got it.
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