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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

All of these songs wish they were as good and timeless as Cameo's Word Up.

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claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
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i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Rhyno posted:

Also if you don't like New Order you're a jerk.

While they're a good band, their last album was lame, which depressed me more in the wake of Duran Duran putting out a good one that same year (try Duran Duran's last album, y'all)

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Madkal posted:

For me it is Sweet Home Alabama. gently caress that song. gently caress it hard.

XO please change thread title to "Skynrd SUCKS"

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Aphrodite posted:

Man you guys are old.

This is Aphrodite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYM6qv-za8w

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Well it wasn't supposed to come out this way, but yes I will be playing Captain Marvel.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Speaking of people being Marvel characters—

Squizzle posted:

Let me go right ahead and tell everyone not to engage this point, nor continue this line of discussion, nor even allude to having read that post.

Nothing good can come of this conversation. Nothing.

If you all succeed in not getting into this conversation, I'll do a big update, maybe two, to the long-neglected Battleworld thread idk next week-ish. If you fail, welp, I can't actually do anything about that, but loving please just listen to me this time.

It turns out that I can't draw or skillfully edit drawings in a robust image editor, so things have been slow going, but I have been pounding at this every day.

Also there will be a visual component.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Skynyrd owns, you guys suck.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Endless Mike posted:

Skynyrd owns, you guys suck.

If we're talking "Things Goin' On" Skynyrd that's a fine opinion. Sweet Home Alabama and Free Bird have been overplayed to hell and back.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

I can't even tell you how super shocked I am to see so many old white guy like musical opinions in a comic book forum. I never would have guessed that would be the demographic posting here!

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
WickedHate would have even'd out the demographic.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Yvonmukluk posted:

Oh yeah? I unironically like The Fall, and think it gets a bad rap for what it is. Bring it!

I agree with you, and think you hold the correct opinion. Albarn set out to do his version of Daft Punk's Human After All, and did it quite well. I don't think the Gorillaz have ever put out a "bad" album, just ones that sound and feel quite different than others. (Daft Punk too, for that matter)

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

i like fetty wap

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Alaois posted:

i like fetty wap

I'd like a whole lot more modern hip hop if the artists didn't have such stupid names.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

Alaois posted:

i like fetty wap

I literally never noticed until this post that his name is "Fetty Wap" not "Fetty Wasp". I have no idea why I read it like that ever.

E:

X-O posted:

I can't even tell you how super shocked I am to see so many old white guy like musical opinions in a comic book forum. I never would have guessed that would be the demographic posting here!

:colbert: excuse me, I'm a 25 year old white guy thank you. I can't blame my musical tastes on my age.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Rhyno posted:

I'd like a whole lot more modern hip hop if the artists didn't have such stupid names.

I know he's not exactly as modern as big names such as Journey, Lynyrd Skynyrd, or even a Jefferson Starship but the greatest name in the history of music belongs to a certain guy that calls himself Del The Funky Homosapien.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Rhyno posted:

I'd like a whole lot more modern hip hop if the artists didn't have such stupid names.

Off the top of my head, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Jay Electronica, and others are now owed an apology.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I feel lame for liking Wax so much, but people really need to get offa my facebook.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Lurdiak posted:

I feel lame for liking Wax so much, but people really need to get offa my facebook.

What is lame about them?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

X-O posted:

I know he's not exactly as modern as big names such as Journey, Lynyrd Skynyrd, or even a Jefferson Starship but the greatest name in the history of music belongs to a certain guy that calls himself Del The Funky Homosapien.

I said stupid names, not the greatest name in the history of mankind.

END ME SCOOB posted:

Off the top of my head, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Jay Electronica, and others are now owed an apology.

I said more modern hip hop.

But gently caress Drake.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Mr Hootington posted:

What is lame about them?

He's a white rapper who mostly raps about sitting around his house.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Lurdiak posted:

He's a white rapper who mostly raps about sitting around his house.

He owes me for infringing on my intellectual property.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Lurdiak posted:

He's a white rapper who mostly raps about sitting around his house.

he speaks to me. any song recommendations?

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Lurdiak posted:

He's a white rapper who mostly raps about sitting around his house.

Now that's more the demographic I expected.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Rhyno posted:

I'd like a whole lot more modern hip hop if the artists didn't have such stupid names.

Almost all bands have dumb names, but we've gotten used to them over the years. It's right and good that the young folks subvert expectations by doing that for individual instead of babd identities, and in styles that sound strange to us. Young people carving out cultural identity niches is a :krad: thing.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Mr Hootington posted:

he speaks to me. any song recommendations?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3hLqnzdo_w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYNMUuGTAOs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_fTlDVhW74


Squizzle posted:

Almost all bands have dumb names, but we've gotten used to them over the years. It's right and good that the young folks subvert expectations by doing that for individual instead of babd identities, and in styles that sound strange to us. Young people carving out cultural identity niches is a :krad: thing.

There's been bands called The Knack and The Guess Who for gently caress's sake.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
The The dates back to the 70s.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




I read something yeeeeeeaaaaaars ago that credited Grandmaster Flash with making hip hop (or at least MCing) as a national thing as opposed to a transient youth culture phenomenon in some cities. It also said that he built his turntables from salvaged components of broken, discarded turntables. Since reading that, I've had this vision of the guy summoning a whole expressive style, that has endured and matured for decades since, with nothing but his own creative force and a tohu va bohu junk heap.

It's way more great man theory of history than I go in for intellectually, but it's such a rad myth that I can't help but love it, and have myth as an unshakable foundation for my old man appreciation of hip hop.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Lurdiak posted:

There's been bands called The Knack and The Guess Who for gently caress's sake.

Not even nearly as good as 1910 Fruitgum Company.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Squizzle posted:

I read something yeeeeeeaaaaaars ago that credited Grandmaster Flash with making hip hop (or at least MCing) as a national thing as opposed to a transient youth culture phenomenon in some cities. It also said that he built his turntables from salvaged components of broken, discarded turntables. Since reading that, I've had this vision of the guy summoning a whole expressive style, that has endured and matured for decades since, with nothing but his own creative force and a tohu va bohu junk heap.

It's way more great man theory of history than I go in for intellectually, but it's such a rad myth that I can't help but love it, and have myth as an unshakable foundation for my old man appreciation of hip hop.

The evolution of hip hop from its early days of DJs trying to hype up the party as they played the hook of a great song over and over to what it became is such an awesome story of art being born from the most underground of places.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



In reading Hip Hop Family Tree, the most striking thing is how little Grandmaster Flash is actually involved in the music published bearing his name.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
There's a local band called Boom Swag and I sat through one of their shows wishing the stage would collapse.

Luchacabra
Jun 12, 2015

Lurdiak posted:

I feel lame for liking Wax so much, but people really need to get offa my facebook.

Wax?

drat, I don't think I've ever heard anyone bring that dude up.
I saw MacGregor open for 2 Skinnee J's back in the day. Put on a hell of a show.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
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Luchacabra posted:

Wax?

drat, I don't think I've ever heard anyone bring that dude up.
I saw MacGregor open for 2 Skinnee J's back in the day. Put on a hell of a show.

2SJ are loving awesome in concert. Or they were. Are they still together?

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Endless Mike posted:

In reading Hip Hop Family Tree, the most striking thing is how little Grandmaster Flash is actually involved in the music published bearing his name.

I really want to read that.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I've seen posters all over town for a Korn tribute band called Porn.

I haven't decided whether the name, or being a Korn tribute band is more embarrassing.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Aphrodite posted:

I've seen posters all over town for a Korn tribute band called Porn.

I haven't decided whether the name, or being a Korn tribute band is more embarrassing.

Individually both are terrible, but together oddly fitting.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Luchacabra posted:

Wax?

drat, I don't think I've ever heard anyone bring that dude up.

It is so weird that he has a twin who is also a rapper. I think I only heard of both of 'em due to a friend seeing them live at some nowhere show in Tennessee or something.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I got very confused about this Wax talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_RELjHhD2s

e: also Gorillaz having an album called The Fall is dumb cause it made me think for a second one of you liked good music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp81sTev4cw

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Apr 14, 2016

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Squizzle posted:

I really want to read that.
You totally should!

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Luchacabra
Jun 12, 2015

Wax's bro is Herbal T, right?
I don't think he even did any lead vocals in MacGregor, just played guitar.

And I don't think 2SJ's are still around, unless they got back together. I was picking up their albums whenever they dropped, but with the rise of iTunes and other methods of buying music, I could have just lost them in the shuffle.

On a semi-related note, Hip Hop Family Tree is pretty awesome. Just be aware that it doesn't really flow as a continuous narrative. It will be talking about Sugar Hill one minute, and then jump to Russell Simmons with no transition. I think the books are pieced together from previously published small strips, so that's probably explains the jarring cuts.

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