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oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

oddium posted:

she's already on the Thousand Sunny

congrats me. please feel free to check out my other predictions, like Roger eating the gum gum fruit

oddium fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Apr 14, 2016

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Shoren
Apr 6, 2011

victoria concordia crescit

dordreff posted:

Presumably on Whole Cake Island but I don't think it's been explicitly stated yet so maybe not.

I thought it was explicitly stated as Whole Cake Island by Count Cat or Duke Dog in one of the last chapters? If there is any island fitting for Big Mom's operations it's one called Whole Cake Island.

Real Cool Catfish
Jun 6, 2011
Blackbeard is just tearing poo poo up isn't he

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

Shoren posted:

I thought it was explicitly stated as Whole Cake Island by Count Cat or Duke Dog in one of the last chapters? If there is any island fitting for Big Mom's operations it's one called Whole Cake Island.
It has to be Whole Cake Island by virtue of it being the only Big Mom island known to the protagonists, unless Luffy and co are just randomly sailing around looking for her

GoldenPrice
Oct 2, 2013
I can recognize Dragon and Sabo on the newspaper pictures but the two others are too blurry to make out.

FossilFuelUser
May 8, 2004
Global Warming
Carrot new member checklist:
-Sad backstory: Not yet
-not useless: She attacked zoro without getting cut in half. She also attacked luffy but since it was for comedy "power levels" dont count.
-Unique personality: Check. She has no idea how the outside world works and she is prone to mood swings.
-Dream: not yet unless you count seeing the sea as a dream.

I still think she's going to be a temporary ally like Camie or Kinemon, but with this chapter it's more likely she will join.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

HerraS posted:

:laffo: if you still think anyone but Blackbeard is going to be the final boss

Unless Blackbeard is going to be revealed to have killed Dragon I wouldn't take this as any kind of proof, because all he's done is wreck an island. Which isn't hard when you have the quake fruit. And I highly doubt that's going to happen given that Luffy doesn't know Dragon, hasn't met the revolutionaries and Dragon hasn't done anything of note beyond saving Luffy's life back in Loguetown. The fact Blackbeard has yet to beat any big guns and is scared of Akainu feels more foretelling than him busting up an island frankly.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


As much as I'd like to see a mink as a permanent member of the crew, it isn't going to be Carrot, and isn't looking likely to be any of them.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

tsob posted:

Unless Blackbeard is going to be revealed to have killed Dragon I wouldn't take this as any kind of proof, because all he's done is wreck an island. Which isn't hard when you have the quake fruit. And I highly doubt that's going to happen given that Luffy doesn't know Dragon, hasn't met the revolutionaries and Dragon hasn't done anything of note beyond saving Luffy's life back in Loguetown. The fact Blackbeard has yet to beat any big guns and is scared of Akainu feels more foretelling than him busting up an island frankly.

There's zero chance that Oda would have Dragon killed off-screen like that. If anything, it'll be the impetus for Dragon and co. to relocate to a new hideout and eventually join forces with Luffy for their shared revenge on Blackbeard.

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?
Fun chapter with quite the bombshell at the end. Also it's always great to see those old characters again. Poor Cobra though.

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


Carrot and Pedro are probably just companions for this arc, and that's fine. I think they're both really fun characters in different ways.

All the setup for Reverie was incredible and everything I hoped for. We caught glimpses of so many crazy looking world leaders! I wonder if anyone knows what ridiculous influence the Strawhats have with a good portion of the worlds heads of state.

I guess we're not gonna get Iceburg if this is royalty only. I wonder if Water 7 had a royal family we never saw, or if it's just not represented in Reverie due to its government structure.

I'm really worried for the revolutionaries. :ohdear: I've always thought they were the most sympathetic faction, and every one of them we met (including Sabo) are incredibly cool. I'm sure none of the named characters will be killed off or captured off screen (it's a bit early for another brother rescue arc), but it's a blow to their movement at the very least. I wonder how Robin will react to all this...

Shoren
Apr 6, 2011

victoria concordia crescit

Eiba posted:

We caught glimpses of so many crazy looking world leaders!

Like the one whose facial hair appeared to be shaped like clock hands on his chin? Oda had a thing for weird chins this chapter.

Rohan Kishibe
Oct 29, 2011

Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.

Eiba posted:

I guess we're not gonna get Iceburg if this is royalty only. I wonder if Water 7 had a royal family we never saw, or if it's just not represented in Reverie due to its government structure.

Well, we know that the World Government represents over 200 countries, so unless the Revolutionaries have been rocking it ULTRA HARD in the last two years, only like a quarter of the WG countries send representatives to the Reverie. It's like a G8 summit.

deep space nein
Aug 25, 2011

tsob posted:

Unless Blackbeard is going to be revealed to have killed Dragon I wouldn't take this as any kind of proof, because all he's done is wreck an island. Which isn't hard when you have the quake fruit. And I highly doubt that's going to happen given that Luffy doesn't know Dragon, hasn't met the revolutionaries and Dragon hasn't done anything of note beyond saving Luffy's life back in Loguetown. The fact Blackbeard has yet to beat any big guns and is scared of Akainu feels more foretelling than him busting up an island frankly.

I'm hoping the flashback will be Blackbeard running away but levelling the island out of spite while his ships and lackys are being torched/drowned by weather.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
carrots prolly just an ally and will be like inurashi was to roger.

JohnnyCocksville
Feb 1, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Bleremiah posted:

Blackbeard is just tearing poo poo up isn't he

He's a Jihadist

FossilFuelUser
May 8, 2004
Global Warming

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

As much as I'd like to see a mink as a permanent member of the crew, it isn't going to be Carrot, and isn't looking likely to be any of them.


It's too early to tell. At this point in Franky and Robin's storylines they were villains, and Law was a random future enemy. You can't tell until it becomes too late to check off all the "new member" points before they're about to leave.

FossilFuelUser fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Apr 14, 2016

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

I love how everyone's glossed over Vivi being able to casually jump from the crow's nest to the deck of a ship and land without any injury.

Shoren
Apr 6, 2011

victoria concordia crescit

deep space nein posted:

I'm hoping the flashback will be Blackbeard running away but levelling the island out of spite while his ships and lackys are being torched/drowned by weather.

Now that you mention it, this is probably the case. The Revolutionaries have to be impossible to launch a sneak attack against given Dragon's status with the Marines and World Government. Following on that point, they must have multiple contingency plans for evacuating as well. The headline only said the island was in ruins which must be the biggest piece of news from that event meaning Dragon and Sabo would be OK.

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

AradoBalanga posted:

I love how everyone's glossed over Vivi being able to casually jump from the crow's nest to the deck of a ship and land without any injury.
She started out as a Baroque Works ninja, it's not that far out imo

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
if his island is known by the WG, wouldn't be surprised if aokiji was the one who did it. after all, it was a secret island known only to BB's crew.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

Cat Machine posted:

She started out as a Baroque Works ninja, it's not that far out imo
It's been eons since I've read the Whiskey Peak arc, but I don't recall Vivi being able to make giant leaps during that time period.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

She was Jesse and James from Pokemon during the Laboon arc

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

Rohan Kishibe posted:

Well, we know that the World Government represents over 200 countries, so unless the Revolutionaries have been rocking it ULTRA HARD in the last two years, only like a quarter of the WG countries send representatives to the Reverie. It's like a G8 summit.

You're probably right with the G8 analogy. The biggest, strongest, most important and influential countries/islands like Alabasta and Dressrosa and Fishman Island are expected to attend with their dignitaries. Given the Marineford and Dressrosa jump cuts, it's probably a given other countries are embroiled in civil war and Revolutionary activity and are thus unable to attend even if Reverie is super important.

I don't know about you all, but I think it's kind of hilarious that Wapol was awarded his own country to act and dress like comic book villains and spend all their time laughing evilly with lightning in the background constantly. Also, it's called Evil Black Drum island. :haw:

anime was right posted:

if his island is known by the WG, wouldn't be surprised if aokiji was the one who did it. after all, it was a secret island known only to BB's crew.

Nah, I think it was Blackbeard's crew that was responsible. Burgess was last seen informing back his location on a Den Den Mushi and it even showed a picture of Blackbeard on the newspaper on the bottom left. The WG is probably tracking Blackbeard's movements as a Yonkou and discovered Baltigo's existence after this incident.

Also, Aokiji resigned from the Navy after his death struggle with Akainu and is working for Blackbeard now, possibly as a double-agent.

On that note, do you all think there's other secret islands/pseudo-islands like Zou out there in the Grand Line/New World that are obscurely located/difficult to get to or hidden?

Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Apr 14, 2016

deep space nein
Aug 25, 2011

anime was right posted:

if his island is known by the WG, wouldn't be surprised if aokiji was the one who did it. after all, it was a secret island known only to BB's crew.

Burgess was captured by Sabo and brought there, then Burgess called Laffite and told him to follow Burgess' vivre card and bring the fleet

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

deep space nein posted:

Burgess was captured by Sabo and brought there, then Burgess called Laffite and told him to follow Burgess' vivre card and bring the fleet

yes, but the newspaper has knowledge of this had to get out somehow. this has nothing to do with the destruction and everything to do with how the information was spread.

im not saying who destroyed it, just that the WG (and the newspaper) knows potentially because aokiji is part of BB's crew.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

deep space nein posted:

Burgess was captured by Sabo and brought there, then Burgess called Laffite and told him to follow Burgess' vivre card and bring the fleet

I thought Burgess was just stowed away on Sabo's ship and not captured?

Millions
Sep 13, 2007

Do you believe in heroes?

anime was right posted:

aokiji is part of BB's crew.

Did I miss something?

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

you missed the part where aokiji is part of teach's crew apparently

Fuckshoes
Jul 11, 2001

sup ladies

Millions posted:

Did I miss something?

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JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Millions posted:

Did I miss something?

See this page of Chapter 793 - http://kissmanga.com/Manga/One-Piece/Chapter-793?id=251235#6

The Gorosei say "What of the matter of Kuzan [Aokiji's real / civilian name]? It seems that man's inestimable military assets are now in the hands of Blackbeard!"

AfroGunsou
Dec 8, 2009

:yeah:
the way he says "tied up with" makes it sound more like he could be pursuing them rather than joining them but who knows
aokiji doesn't seem at all like the kind of person to pal around with blackbeard

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


Also, when Luffy runs in on Burgess and has his chat with Blackbeard (chapter 710), Burgess was saying they couldn't trust Aokiji, and Blackbeard said the same was true for Shiliew (implying Blackbeard trusts Aokiji).

It's not clear he's a member of Blackbeard's crew, but the Gorosei think he's one of Blackbeard's "assets". Given what we know of Blackbeard and Kuzan, I doubt Kuzan would straight up join, but there's some relationship there. It's possible he was involved with the destruction of Baltigo, but it all depends on what he's up to. He's not the type to abandon his own "justice" so I'm sure he's not just a lackey of Blackbeard now (unless he knows and appreciates Blackbeard's ultimate plan- whatever that might be).

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Wouldn't it be hosed up if this was just a show and Dragon has teamed up with Blackbeard too?

Je suis fatigue
May 5, 2009

Amazing! It's a double J.O.!
The revolutionaries left to gently caress up the reverie well before Blackbeard's crew made it there, and Blackbeard takes credit for wrecking the place for some sort of WG favor as he is prone to do.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Je suis fatigue posted:

The revolutionaries left to gently caress up the reverie well before Blackbeard's crew made it there, and Blackbeard takes credit for wrecking the place for some sort of WG favor as he is prone to do.

There is no way he doesn't know how much the WG would love to just murder him at this point

Sub Harrison
May 2, 2013

I can't imagine Dragon gets captured before doing anything on-screen (besides slap a logia user in rogue town which isn't even that amazing anymore).

I'm betting the revolutionary army retreat and call in all their forces like Ivankov and Crab guy. And I'm banking on BB realizing Baltigo is actually the destination island of the missing road poneglyph. Lately, everyone 30 years or older has been on Roger's goddamn ship. Maybe Dragon was on board too, trashed the poneglyph with Oden's help, then made his base on the missing island?

Sub Harrison fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Apr 15, 2016

d[-.-]b
Aug 1, 2004

my fav champ that hero who cats a spell that make all bad guy fall down and say my dick BIG
Why the hell is Hercule going back to the Boin Archipelago?

edit: Unrelated, but how long have I been incorrectly saying Nefertiti in my head for Vivi's last name?

d[-.-]b fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Apr 15, 2016

Crazyeyes
Nov 5, 2009

If I were human, I believe my response would be: 'go to hell'.

"d[-.- posted:

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Why the hell is Hercule going back to the Boin Archipelago?

Cause that's where he is originally from. He is riding a giant hercules beetle and gives absolutely 0 fucks and it is amazing.

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Advice
Feb 17, 2007

Je veux ton amour
Et je veux ton revanche
Je veux ton amour
I don't wanna be friends
Didn't the title say, "It's been years since he's been back", which makes sense. He escorted Usopp to Saobondy, we've seen him in other places, not like he's in a huge rush to go back to the dangerous island with man-eating plants.

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