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Randarkman posted:Sure it's what he wanted. But would he be able to carry it out effectively without risking the Hungarians telling him to gently caress off and possibly plunge the Empire into civil war? The Hungarians and the compromise with them was essential in keeping the Empire together since 1867. Even though Hungarian intransigence also was a major part in blocking any further attempts at compromise to keep running somewhat smoothly. Still would have been better for the empire than what followed.
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This entire conversation has made me extremely thirsty for a "general war never broke out in early 20th century Europe but some other poo poo happened and now everyone's nervous again" HoI4 mod. Though I guess that it's a lot more difficult to construct a scenario there that's both plausible and produces fun gameplay, compared to something like Kaiserreich. I think it's a lot more interesting of a question in terms of alt histories though, WW2 is so much the child of WW1 that it's intriguing to think what could have happened without it.
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RabidWeasel posted:This entire conversation has made me extremely thirsty for a "general war never broke out in early 20th century Europe but some other poo poo happened and now everyone's nervous again" HoI4 mod. Though I guess that it's a lot more difficult to construct a scenario there that's both plausible and produces fun gameplay, compared to something like Kaiserreich. Well, if it's an HoI IV mod, the answer is "something that's basically like WW2 anyway". 
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RabidWeasel posted:This entire conversation has made me extremely thirsty for a "general war never broke out in early 20th century Europe but some other poo poo happened and now everyone's nervous again" HoI4 mod. Though I guess that it's a lot more difficult to construct a scenario there that's both plausible and produces fun gameplay, compared to something like Kaiserreich.
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Would probably be some kind of conflict that looks a lot like WW1 politically fought with newer weapons. However you could have some fun working from the assumption that essentially nobody's fought an actual war since 1870 and this means that you haven't really got any people who know how to use those weapons properly since you haven't had anything like WW1 to kick you in the balls and force you to innovate. So I guess you could have some stuff like really large battleships, weird or lacking tank designs and maybe something like a lock on researching modern military doctrines until a war actually breaks out. It's really hard to imagine a successful communist revolution or nazism without WW1. Without WW1 its quite likely that the imperialist powers will have covered even more of the world without the world wars coming along to sound the death knell of the era of colonial imperialism, might even have something like an almost completely carved up China. Ottoman Empire might be around, since there hasn't been a major war, or the great powers could have found a way to partition it peacefully in the interest of avoiding war. Some kind of world system where Britain, France and Russia are essentially settling points of dispute between them by carving up the world between them and shutting out younger and ambitious powers like Germany, Italy and Japan could be a thing but might produce a situation a bit too similar to how WW2 turned out in history. Perhaps have Germany and Japan trying to gain an advantage against Britain by supporting nationalist movements in their colonies, if you still have the Ottoman Empire in some form then Germany might have gotten a lot further along in developing their infrastructure and strengthening their army, giving them a very real economic presence in the Middle East. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Apr 11, 2016 |
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Ofaloaf posted:There was a Hearts of Iron 2 mod to that end, A Peace To End All Peaces. Can't recall if it was any good or not, probably involved a Nazi France or some such. I had a vague memory of this but wasn't it more or less just "nothing happens in Europe for 20 years, then suddenly WW1 starts in 1938". Like it was just WW1 being fought with WW2 tech?
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The USA would also have been much weaker compared to the rest of Europe (simply because Europe hadn't trashed itself in WW1) which would make for a drastically different ww2 even if all the players were the same.
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Randarkman posted:Some kind of world system where Britain, France and Russia are essentially settling points of dispute between them by carving up the world between them and shutting out younger and ambitious powers like Germany, Italy and Japan could be a thing but might produce a situation a bit too similar to how WW2 turned out in history. Perhaps have Germany and Japan trying to gain an advantage against Britain by supporting nationalist movements in their colonies, if you still have the Ottoman Empire in some form then Germany might have gotten a lot further along in developing their infrastructure and strengthening their army, giving them a very real economic presence in the Middle East. ...oh God, I'm doing the AH.com thing. nah gently caress thinking about it, take 1914 borders and then use the time between then and the HoI 4 startdate to justify any changes you want to make for gameplay's sake. france v. britain gogogogo
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Speaking of AH as much as I love kaiserreich is there any other cool alternate history than it for Darkest Hour? Because even though I spent only a hundred hours on it i wanna try something else
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I think I'd like to see a HOI4 alt history that was more like Europa Gooniversalis. Split up into more balanced states that see warfare in all sorts of non traditional spots. Paradox game themed, so... Byzantium, Norse Vinland, Aztecs, Al Andlus, Old Great Bulgaria mixed up with Imperial Britain, the North German Federation, Italy, and Zulu with fighter planes. Like, just goofy and fun without worrying about a profound or plausible backatory. 
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Apr 12, 2016 04:36
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Ofaloaf posted:I am very uncertain that in a scenario where the 1910s remain flaccid that Britain, France and Russia would be Pals 4 Life. The Fashoda Incindent was 16 years prior to WWI, and without a war against Germany to redeem Alsace-Lorraine, French nationalists would surely direct more of their energies to colonial matters and cause further troubles there. Go back to 1870 have France win the war. 1936: Bonapartist French Empire endures and the colonial rivalry between Britain and France is becoming intolerable, especially as it is moving out of Africa and the French are conspiring with Indian nationalists in a bid to wrest the British Empire of its most valuable possession. Meanwhile in Germany the Rhineland states are chafing under French political and economic dominance in place to keep the states of the North German federation from joining with Prussia and threatening the French Empire once more.
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Fintilgin posted:I think I'd like to see a HOI4 alt history that was more like Europa Gooniversalis. Split up into more balanced states that see warfare in all sorts of non traditional spots. Paradox game themed, so... Byzantium, Norse Vinland, Aztecs, Al Andlus, Old Great Bulgaria mixed up with Imperial Britain, the North German Federation, Italy, and Zulu with fighter planes. In the east, the Bhutanese dragon rises. Byzantium civil war with the Republic of Crete breaking off. Do the Scottish-dominated UK from Wiz's Azerbaijan game (is that the right source?)
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Tahirovic posted:Since some of you here actually have a clue about history, is Christopher Clark rated as a good author/source for history books? Looking at Iron Kingdom: The Rise and Downfall of Prussia, 1600-1947 because it seems to be one of the best rated books about Prussia. It is an excellent read, although the title is a little deceptive- he skimps on the detail once the German Empire is formed. If he hadn't, of course, the book would be eight hundred pages long.
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The Narrator posted:Do the Scottish-dominated UK from Wiz's Azerbaijan game (is that the right source?) Hohenzollern, I think. But rebuilding mods for some of the more famous goon LP's of old (Hohenzollern, Jerusalem, maybe Texas) would be pretty neat.
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The USA didn't join WWI, George Marshal is a foreign logistic advisor in Prussia, the spring offensive works thanks to his talents, all 4 major powers end the war with civil wars at home. Welcome to shattered Europe.
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Apr 12, 2016 09:13
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Speaking of AH as much as I love kaiserreich is there any other cool alternate history than it for Darkest Hour? Because even though I spent only a hundred hours on it i wanna try something else I really like the Communist Germany one, where you can choose an alternate history for Germany and effects from that. It involves a second world war where Germany and the USSR fighter over who is the better Socialist, then eventually the capitalist powers engineering a war against you. Has a lot of cool alt history events if you are bored with Kaiserreich.
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Fintilgin posted:I think I'd like to see a HOI4 alt history that was more like Europa Gooniversalis. Split up into more balanced states that see warfare in all sorts of non traditional spots. Paradox game themed, so... Byzantium, Norse Vinland, Aztecs, Al Andlus, Old Great Bulgaria mixed up with Imperial Britain, the North German Federation, Italy, and Zulu with fighter planes. HOI2 did this and no one played it.
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Apr 12, 2016 18:14
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http://support.paradoxplaza.com/hc/en-us/requests/new Provide a good summary of your problem, e.g. "Can't start the game" or "Unable to purchase Ducats using credit card". 
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Apr 13, 2016 05:06
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I want a mod based on the setting from Iron Storm.
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Enjoy posted:http://support.paradoxplaza.com/hc/en-us/requests/new Pretty sure it has said that for a while now.
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Fintilgin posted:I think I'd like to see a HOI4 alt history that was more like Europa Gooniversalis. Split up into more balanced states that see warfare in all sorts of non traditional spots. Paradox game themed, so... Byzantium, Norse Vinland, Aztecs, Al Andlus, Old Great Bulgaria mixed up with Imperial Britain, the North German Federation, Italy, and Zulu with fighter planes. A thousand times this. Back in the LP Kabal there was talk of making a Clash of LPs scenario, Jerusalem Vs Texas Vs Ghana Vs Hohengermany Vs Byzantium Vs Neubauten Vs Gothia Vs Afghanistan Vs Scandinavia, with the rest of the world populated with allies and enemies of said nations, but making scenarios for Hearts of Iron 4 seems like a pain in the rear end in general.
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From what I've heard HoI scenario modding has always been a huge pain because the games are basically scripted to within an inch of their lives.
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Oberleutnant posted:From what I've heard HoI scenario modding has always been a huge pain because the games are basically scripted to within an inch of their lives. HOI4 promises to be much more EU-like in its scripting.
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I imagine you could make map modes for HoI4 without changing anything else, to keep focus trees and general balance.
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Drone posted:HOI4 promises to be much more EU-like in its scripting. Get ready for the Polish-German communist alliance declaring war on Ecuador.
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Vicky is the one paradox game that desperately needs some scripting.
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Star posted:I want a mod based on the setting from Iron Storm. Man. How has no-one done a METAL GEAR mod. You'd think the areas of interest would overlap...
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Since no one has posted it, this week's World War Wednesday stream is now available on Twitch. Not yet available on Youtube though. https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive/v/60319973 This week involves moving on to a new country (two, in fact), terrible puns about countries and someone blowing someone else's horn in the stream. Also looks like they've been refining the graphics a bit, but that could just me imagining things.
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[quote="Psychotic Weasel" post=""458680638"]someone blowing someone else's horn in the stream. [/quote] Is that an expression I wasn't aware of?
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Apr 14, 2016 07:04
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Seems Manchukuo is in.
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Randarkman posted:Seems Manchukuo is in. Which hopefully means they've boosted the AI a bit!
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Yo, Ofaloaf, is there anywhere you can get the deets on the After the End mod? Just a lowdown on the cool cultures and religions and whatnot. Also, is there a known error where you can't reform the Rust Cult as the republic of Detroit? Because I was looking forward to it and it doesn't seem to recognize me as being a rust cultist. 
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Phlegmish posted:Is that an expression I wasn't aware of? "Blowing your own horn" = bragging. I assume he means that the stream is talking someone else up.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Yo, Ofaloaf, is there anywhere you can get the deets on the After the End mod? Just a lowdown on the cool cultures and religions and whatnot. Religions:
There's a fuckton of religions, I'm sure Shadeoses could talk more about 'em too. quote:Also, is there a known error where you can't reform the Rust Cult as the republic of Detroit? Because I was looking forward to it and it doesn't seem to recognize me as being a rust cultist.
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Tomn posted:"Blowing your own horn" = bragging. I assume he means that the stream is talking someone else up. Yes, towards the beginning of the stream the host mentions he keeps "blowing Daniel's horn" in reference to him constantly mentioning how good he is at the game. But it also makes for a convenient sexual innuendo as well.
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I like playing as the Emperor in California, or convert to the Thelemic religion when the redcoats arrive or play as an Americanist elective president with the empires submod and recreate the USA.
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here is WWW on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfZr_UbIIUU Randarkman posted:Seems Manchukuo is in. Mengkukuo, not Manchukuo
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Tuskin38 posted:here is WWW on youtube The hell? I don't exactly remember the specifics of people getting grognardy about Manchukuo being removed, but I resisted the impulse to join them accepting the handwave that as a puppet with no political independence or influence beyond providing some auxiliary troops you could just pretend it was an extension of Japan. If the comparatively unimportant Mengkukuo is in you have to confront the fact that a relatively important Ww2 state has been removed because ai/overseas supply is still broken after 4 games.
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Stellaris went up for pre-order on Steam. Normal Pre-Order ($39):
Digital Deluxe "Nova" Edition Pre-Order ($49):
Collector's "Galaxy" Edition Pre-Order ($69):
Everyone hurry up and pre-order so you can cancel it at the drop of a hat!
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Drone posted:Stellaris went up for pre-order on Steam. You uhh get the game too right?
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