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If the police are people who are paid to perform full time, those duties upon which it is incumbent for every citizen to uphold by virtue of their civic duty, it follows that bashing the fash is totally legit even if the coppers don't agree. E: January 8th, 1968 British Prime Minister Harold Wilson endorses the I'm Backing Britain campaign for working an additional half hour each day without pay.
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FinalGamer posted:Wow, I had no idea the Daily Express was that old. Founded in 1900
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Thanks for setting me straight Forkboy, I hadn't read the full Corbyn thing. Guavanaut posted:Most of the protests are planned in advance and get permission, and most of the planning bit is careful not to overstep the line. Maintaining the freedom of speech and assembly is important, and the fascists are careful to ride parasite-like within those maintained lines until they decide it is time not to not to. Or hide in a baggage area behind a shutter. Thanks for explaining, the cunning devils. Your avatar is really, really creepy by the way  Edit: In lighter news, enjoy some epic lorry driving on the M6 toll: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36045260
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FinalGamer posted:The best part of Private Eye, the very simplest means to call out bullshit on people. You'd think so wouldn't you? But in the runup to the last election I had dinner with a friend who was unironically voting Tory because he wanted to make sure he could pass everything on to his daughter. I pointed out that a: he could do that already because his estate was almost certainly not worth over the threshold, and b: his daughter was loving two years old, it's not like the rules won't have changed 50 times before then anyway. He was not persuaded.
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TinTower posted:By the way, if you guys want a laugh, Cathy Brennan yes, that one is trying to get me kicked out of the Lib Dems for calling her a fake goth. Thought you would have learned your lesson about accusing people of only being dark on the outside.
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TinTower posted:By the way, if you guys want a laugh, Cathy Brennan yes, that one is trying to get me kicked out of the Lib Dems for calling her a fake goth. is there more than one Cathy Brennan? Who is she / they?
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Gonzo McFee posted:Thought you would have learned your lesson about accusing people of only being dark on the outside. hahaha
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Gonzo McFee posted:Thought you would have learned your lesson about accusing people of only being dark on the outside.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Thought you would have learned your lesson about accusing people of only being dark on the outside. 
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JFairfax posted:is there more than one Cathy Brennan? Who is she / they? A bigoted sack of poo poo who hates transexual women.
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Apr 14, 2016 18:47
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TinTower posted:
I'm calling bullshit. Everyone knows that Cheese does not aid digestion. (Unless you're lactose intolerant in which case it aids in a bad way.) Get your facts together St Ivel!
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Gonzo McFee posted:Thought you would have learned your lesson about accusing people of only being dark on the outside. Hahahahaha 
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It's funny, I find it difficult to tell Lib Dem politics apart from NUS politics now. Say what you want about the Blairites, but at least there's a certain modicum of actual politics in their squabbling.
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Gonzo McFee posted:A bigoted sack of poo poo who hates transexual women. I just googled her and it's ironic because she looks like a bloke
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Speaking of Squabbling, a splinter of UKIP has left in Wales to form the "Abolish the Welsh Assembly" party for the next Welsh Assembly election. Was nice of BBC to be impartial and run their ad that looked like it was done in MS paint.
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Fans posted:Speaking of Squabbling, a splinter of UKIP has left in Wales to form the "Abolish the Welsh Assembly" party for the next Welsh Assembly election. Was nice of BBC to be impartial and run their ad that looked like it was done in MS paint. Got a link?
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Sadly all they have is a man who looks like a three week old ham https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx1QDYOIlcg I think the BBC puts up all ads on its site eventually though.
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Fans posted:Speaking of Squabbling, a splinter of UKIP has left in Wales to form the "Abolish the Welsh Assembly" party for the next Welsh Assembly election. Was nice of BBC to be impartial and run their ad that looked like it was done in MS paint. There is something hilarious about people running for office on an 'abolish this office' stance.
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RE: fashchat, when I was in uni we watched a super good documentary about french antifa, ANTIFA - Chasseurs de skins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfDbTgb6uyc trigger warning: french, subtitles
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Fans posted:Speaking of Squabbling, a splinter of UKIP has left in Wales to form the "Abolish the Welsh Assembly" party for the next Welsh Assembly election. Was nice of BBC to be impartial and run their ad that looked like it was done in MS paint. Prince John posted:Thanks for explaining, the cunning devils. I'm not sure if it's cunning so much as the group psychology of the sort of people who tend to join these groups. At any highly charged protest or rally there tend to be a few that get carried away and brick an unpopular business or set a bin on fire, but with these groups it's more like a dozen turn up and ten of them end up attacking a group or business based on their perceived identity, so I don't buy that they're out for anything but targeted group violence. The language that they use when they think someone's watching tries deliberately hard to cover that and avoid directly attacking a protected group while retaining the core group identity. You could probably make a bot to generate them. Patriots Against Jihadis, that kind of thing.
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Fans posted:Sadly all they have is a man who looks like a three week old ham To be fair to him, he apparently was paralysed from a fall going hiking.
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Apr 14, 2016 19:32
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Glazed ham.
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Pissflaps posted:Glazed ham. yeah that's the term when you cum over the pig's face
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as in 'I turned mrs pissflaps into a glazed ham last night'
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Doesn't poor Missflaps suffer enough without you dragging her good name through the mud? That poor woman.
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TinTower posted:By the way, if you guys want a laugh, Cathy Brennan yes, that one is trying to get me kicked out of the Lib Dems for calling her a fake goth. Why are you still in the Lib Dems?
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Cerv posted:Why are you still in the Lib Dems? Why is anyone still in the Lib Dems?
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I have a friend who has been in the lib dems since birth basically and I think he's finally realised he'll never be an MP. When I go to London in May I am going to have a drink with him in the National Liberal Club in Westminster.
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JFairfax posted:I just googled her and it's ironic because she looks like a bloke How many times have you been probated for being awful in this thread? go away
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Prince John posted:Thanks for explaining, the cunning devils. Also to address your other question, there are very few proscribed organisations in the UK. In fact until 2000, there were precisely zero*. Now there's lots of waffle about the British tradition of freedom and blah blah blah but really the reason is that up until that point legislators had realised the rampant stupidity of saying "The Chorlton-cum-Hardy Morris Dancers are now a banned group!" because hey presto they disappear and the Chorlton-cum-Hardy Folk Dance Appreciation Society sets up in their place. Of course, utter loving stupidity of a policy was never much of a barrier to Blairite Labour Home Secretaries, and so we got the Terrorism Act 2000, which among many other things allows the Home Secretary proscribe an organisation if it: quote: commits or participates in acts of terrorism; Now the Terrorism Act is pretty loosely-written in what terrorism actually is, but even then the EDL don't fit that definition. C18 maaaaybe do, and some of the other fringe groups, especially those linked with the Loyalists, almost definitely do, but the proportionality test still gives a pretty high bar to cross. However even the quickest glance at the list of proscribed organisations (Irish ones aside) will give you a fairly good idea of what the Home Office actually think "terrorism" is and how it's defined. Even then proscription in the Terrorism Act doesn't actually just say "You're banned, haha" (although it does make it an offence to be a member of such a group), it's actually more to do with seizing funds and disrupting logistics of established international groups. It's as effective as a chocolate teapot but legally at least it's consistent. *Well technically there were zero in England, Wales, and Scotland. Banning orders existed for groups in Northern Ireland pretty much since Home Rule began, but again - common sense has never been much of an ingredient in the legislative mix there.
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Fans posted:Why is anyone still in the Lib Dems? What's a Lib Dem?
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Thanks for the effort post. In case anyone wants to know the list, it's here (pdf warning): https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/509003/20160318proscription.pdf 66 non-Norn Iron related ones. I'd like to propose dethroning Monster Munch as the UKMT crisp of choice. They're clearly resting on their laurels if they think that this counts as a full pack of crisps: 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Also to address your other question, there are very few proscribed organisations in the UK. In fact until 2000, there were precisely zero*. Now there's lots of waffle about the British tradition of freedom and blah blah blah but really the reason is that up until that point legislators had realised the rampant stupidity of saying "The Chorlton-cum-Hardy Morris Dancers are now a banned group!" because hey presto they disappear and the Chorlton-cum-Hardy Folk Dance Appreciation Society sets up in their place. Another one of those beautiful laws that make already-illegal things illegal.
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Implied Consent posted:What's a Lib Dem? A miserable pile of policies.
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Prince John posted:I'd like to propose dethroning Monster Munch as the UKMT crisp of choice. They're clearly resting on their laurels if they think that this counts as a full pack of crisps: Send it to their Twitter and you'll probably get offered a free bag or something.
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Prince John posted:Thanks for the effort post. In case anyone wants to know the list, it's here (pdf warning): https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/509003/20160318proscription.pdf quote:
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Also  that they put N17 on there less than a year before they disbanded, and have refused to remove them even after the US have.
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JFairfax posted:what flavour monster munch are those? Pickled onion, it's a purple pack
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TinTower posted:By the way, if you guys want a laugh, Cathy Brennan yes, that one is trying to get me kicked out of the Lib Dems for calling her a fake goth. Well on one hand you've got a horrible bigot with a history of abuse towards members of their own party, and on the other you have Cathy Brennan.
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