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Ugleb posted:I'm not sure if its Scourge or Shaltari. Scourge get up close via stealth then melt face. Shaltari get their gate shenanigans with infantry deployment and are/were going to be brittle ships with those long range ion(?) cannons that cause major spikes when fired. The twist being that Shaltari also get their shields up mechanic which is meant to dramatically boost their durability when active. Long range particle lances, some ion stuff that is close range and maybe ignores PD i think. I think Shaltari are more the Eldar type, although i think they will be surprisingly good at the close action game with their stuff that skips PD and the fact that they have the best point defense of any of the factions.
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# ? Apr 8, 2016 17:34 |
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New rules for everyone! Although scourge players will have to use their Monitors to proxy Corruptors. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0159/4298/files/Retaliator_-_Experimental_Rules_1.0.pdf https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0159/4298/files/Monitor_-_Experimental_Rules_1.0.pdf https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0159/4298/files/Angelos_A2_-_Experimental_Rules_1.0.pdf https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0159/4298/files/Leopard_-_Experimental_Rules_1.0.pdf https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0159/4298/files/Thunder_Wagon_-_Experimental_Rules_1.0.pdf
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# ? Apr 8, 2016 17:36 |
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These are also up on the Hawk site directly http://www.hawkwargames.com/collections/dual-blisters
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# ? Apr 8, 2016 18:08 |
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Weird that the corruptor rules are up but the Monitor is what's being sold.
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# ? Apr 8, 2016 20:13 |
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Retaliator seems legit. Tho I'm not sure on how barrage is good on it other than point blank big template.
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# ? Apr 8, 2016 21:44 |
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So the Corruptor can advance 12" each turn firing a base of Razorworms into buildings as it goes. So a single Corruptor could pump out up to 6 bases of free Razorworms in a game for 80pts. This could be awesome in a scenario like Recon, just dump worms into every building before your opponent reaches your side of the board and he has to fight through them!
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# ? Apr 8, 2016 23:43 |
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Yeah, and a single base of razorworms is enough to at least damage a squad of most races basic infantry - they'll die against exotics, but most things do. Its not a unit you'll want two of, but one of them will be great in most missions. One FAQ needed already, does a bunker count as a building? Bunker Assault is a favorite at Invasion, and spending a few turns firing Razorworms into a contested bunker is going to ruin the enemies day.
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# ? Apr 9, 2016 08:08 |
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Think I've come up with my first list to test around with the Seraphim and I really want to take two of them. Kodiak (Captain) Ferrum Katana (6) Eagle Legionnaires (2) -Raven Legionnaires (2) -Raven Falcons (2) Legionnaires (2) Rapier (3) (Condor/Missiles) Wolverines (4) Seraphim Retaliator Seraphim Retaliator I usually kind of find my lists tend to go overkill on infantry or anti tank and I have a lot of dudes not doing very much, so I've kind of gone for the inverse here and think I have a good measure of everything. I was tempted to try to run Sabres but I feel like I really really need the demo the Katana's provide. I feel like I'm running light on AA too but then I tend to usually take too much. My past two games I have had exactly one initiative win so I'm taking a Captain. Thoughts? Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Apr 9, 2016 |
# ? Apr 9, 2016 10:42 |
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Hawk have announced their new show-only models for this year: a PHR DZC thing and a civilian vehicles pack. Hoping to get them this weekend. Also I did an unboxing of the Aegis Orbital Defense Laser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIsbBr4F4M I did one for the Underground Hangar set also, it will be online soon, that one is even shorter since it's just a single piece of resin (and 4 metal satellite dishes).
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 19:34 |
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The PHR dropship counts as a Neptune proxy it seems. I now want at least one for use with a command squad! Very pretty looking imo.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 23:25 |
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Ugleb posted:The PHR dropship counts as a Neptune proxy it seems. I now want at least one for use with a command squad! Very pretty looking imo. Pics?
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 23:26 |
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I'm on my phone but the pictures are on the Hawk Facebook page. I'll try to post pictures while I'm at the show on my Facebook page (links in the YouTube video description above).
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 23:39 |
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I looked it up: It's like a giant Triton.
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# ? Apr 14, 2016 23:47 |
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Today Facebook gives us:quote:On our final update before Salute, we have the next wave of releases to show off. These will be available in very limited quantities at Salute this year. The pics are some of the stuff shown back at Invasion, PHR Menchit A2, Scourge Corruptor and Shaltari Firebird. MOAR MONORAIL?
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# ? Apr 15, 2016 16:18 |
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I wonder if they'll have any new Dropfleet models. I want a look at the Scourge Battleships.
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# ? Apr 15, 2016 19:26 |
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Yo UK Goons, there's a DzC tournament down here in FSG on the 28-29th of May for those who are up for travelling. Standard format of 1,500pts with more details to follow. I slapped up a thread on their forums here for those interested: http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8222
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# ? Apr 15, 2016 19:56 |
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Some salute pictures scrounged together from facebook: And a BoW video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4My6IFjIe08 The shaltari battleship and the stations look huge. In the video i bet some of it is perspective, but still...
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# ? Apr 16, 2016 16:58 |
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I've just been looking at those very models. They're as huge as they look, I assure you.
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# ? Apr 16, 2016 17:55 |
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Shaltari BS looking good, wonder which ones aren't done yet.
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# ? Apr 16, 2016 17:55 |
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Bugger me that'd a beast
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# ? Apr 16, 2016 19:28 |
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Ugleb posted:MOAR MONORAIL? Turned out they were just extra track packs, with upright pillars.
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# ? Apr 16, 2016 20:30 |
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Yeah I got the expansion...now I need to get the original set! Should have gotten it from the Troll Trader, they had some fantastic prices. Loxbourne posted:I've just been looking at those very models. They're as huge as they look, I assure you. You were there, too? Should have said! Unless you did and I missed it.
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# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:35 |
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wdarkk posted:Shaltari BS looking good, wonder which ones aren't done yet. I would assume hes worked on each variation for a faction at the same time, and since we have seen the UCM one and now the Shaltari I would imagine the PHR and Scourge ones still need work.
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# ? Apr 16, 2016 22:27 |
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Pash posted:I would assume hes worked on each variation for a faction at the same time, and since we have seen the UCM one and now the Shaltari I would imagine the PHR and Scourge ones still need work. I haven't seen anyone put a picture of the PHR or Scourge ones from Salute, so you may be right. Goons who went to Salute, did you see either of those? Also I had my first game vs the Resistance today. Those bikes are pretty hard to deal with as Scourge, my Raider was slower than them if it wanted to move and fire, and its acid hose has the same energy value as the bikers' armor value. In theory the Annihilator could have helped, if it wasn't too busy rolling ones and infuriating me. Usually it does so much better than that!
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 00:08 |
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Loxbourne posted:Turned out they were just extra track packs, with upright pillars. Eh, its a thing I guess. Was kinda hoping some sort of structure or ruined sections maybe but whatever. Salute turns out to be a good one for teasers then. Reconquest Phase 2 book out in '6-8 weeks' so probably end of June/July which I'm cool with. Next Invasion is happening 17th/18th September by the way, so the book will be out in plenty of time. Dropfleet backers will be getting our stuff 'June-July, things are on track working to our own schedule' says Dave. So probably late July then. That pic of a cabinet shelf full of space stations is all made FROM A SINGLE SET! Holy crap was that good value in the Kickstarter! If Dave reckons they under costed it then I think we can expect a price hike come retail. No idea on the game mechanics but I'm guessing there is probably enough there for a couple of tables worth in a typical game. And finally, them Shaltari capital ships. I'm gonna need to clear space in the cabinet when these things come out! Interesting to see they are labelled as Battleship and Supercarrier. Anyone know if the hull section pictured right of the supercarrier is part of it? Looks similar to the top piece of the assembled battleship. Do they come from the same kit?
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 00:12 |
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So general release probably won't be till August. I want my super awesome space ships. I want them so bad.
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 00:23 |
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FrostyPox posted:So general release probably won't be till August. I want my super awesome space ships. I want them so bad. At least it gives me some time to paint up my kickstarter stuff.
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 00:39 |
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Well, I'm really hoping to get my stuff in June, but I doubt it. Back in late January Dave was hoping to (as a long shot) have reconquest phase 2 out for Salute but it is still 2 months away. Hawk are trying to get a lot done with a small team and look to be advancing kinda slowly on everything at the moment. All of their recent timetable predictions are slipping into the later end of their estimates. Still, it looks like Dropfleet will have a pretty cool launch offering.
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 00:47 |
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I took pictures but looks like all the bases are covered already, except maybe the space station, I'll upload those later. First place we went to was the Hawk stand, I got Reconquest 1.1,one of every show model and the monorail expansion too. Also got a bit of swag: Not shown is my second Saga force with dice, Renedra terrain for Frostgrave/fantasy, Dark Deeds game from Games & Gears and second Dungeon Saga game I picked up for a friend. The books at top left were brought to get signed, got loads of luck/fame rubs for my dice! And apparently I won a KR Multicase Backpack4, that'll teach me to not look through everything in the swag bag! Now I gotta pay 20 quid for postage, what a ripoff!
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 12:16 |
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"a bit of swag" That said, i added the station pack to my dropfleet pledge after the "we made it too cheap" comment from that Crossquoting this from the terrain thread: Bistromatic posted:More modular terrain planning! Turns out committing to a grid system is the hardest part. Also doing an actual introduction since i might crosspost this for some feedback in other places and i never gave one in this thread Here's the test pieces mentioned, i don't think i've posted them in this thread before: As it says, i'd appreciate any feedback. Especially gameplay related seeing how this thread has the actual players. I think i might end up with a slightly lower building density but some extra LoS blocking from the elevation. And i'd be really thankful if someone could measure the width of the standard hawk roads on the ruinscape/cityscape tiles as well the the width of the civilian vehicles or their resistance variants. I asked in the local whatsapp group but no one there seems to feel like doing it. Edit: on the test pieces the road is 10cm wide and i'm trying figure out what would be a reasonable lane width for civilian vehicles, not for huge APCs and batmobile buggies Bistromatic fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Ugleb posted:Anyone know if the hull section pictured right of the supercarrier is part of it? Looks similar to the top piece of the assembled battleship. Do they come from the same kit? The upper section with two "prongs" is for the carrier (and has what looks like a flight deck between them). The one with triple particle cannons is from the battleship. Current theory seems to be that the upper hull section on the battleship is an enormous turret, but Dave wasn't telling...people with Admiral access, does the Shaltari battleship have an all-arc triple-cannon weapon? I asked Dave about the carrier and he said it arrived from the manufacturers with broken "wing sections" so they couldn't show off the full model. No idea where those would go. I also asked him why the UCM battleships have those big gaps in their hulls. He said he wanted something visually distinct from the generic grey cylinder with engines that most human spaceship designs end up being at present.
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 21:48 |
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Loxbourne posted:The upper section with two "prongs" is for the carrier (and has what looks like a flight deck between them). The one with triple particle cannons is from the battleship. Current theory seems to be that the upper hull section on the battleship is an enormous turret, but Dave wasn't telling...people with Admiral access, does the Shaltari battleship have an all-arc triple-cannon weapon? Shaltari are meant to be 'big guns pointing forwards' right? It does look like a trio of big guns, but maybe with a more limited fire arc? Looks like there are smaller turrets along the sides. Looking at the sides underslung towards the back, are those three torpedoes? If so, then 'holy crap'. Ugleb fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Ugleb posted:Looks like there are smaller turrets along the sides. Looking at the sides underslung towards the back, are those three torpedoes? If so, then 'holy crap'. Not torpedoes (thankfully!), they're secondary turrets a la the Cayman in DzC. I'm told by Sources(TM) that the triple-doomgun is fixed forward currently, so that's a relief. Still a very mean-looking ship.
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 23:49 |
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Gaah fast movers are so cool but so frustrating to use sometimes. The availability roll after they've come out of reserve is the most irritating thing ever. Kinda surprised Hawk even implemented it, it's just inherently frustrating when you consider having to hit and then damage afterwards as well.
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 23:50 |
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Flipswitch posted:Gaah fast movers are so cool but so frustrating to use sometimes. The availability roll after they've come out of reserve is the most irritating thing ever. Kinda surprised Hawk even implemented it, it's just inherently frustrating when you consider having to hit and then damage afterwards as well. Theoretically you can use Forward Observers to auto-pass the availability rule for attack runs (but not intercepts).
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 23:53 |
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wdarkk posted:Theoretically you can use Forward Observers to auto-pass the availability rule for attack runs (but not intercepts).
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# ? Apr 17, 2016 23:57 |
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Here's my Salute walk-through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jXsRKW3Of0 Just about every table, vendor and club is in there, so you can see what it was like. No commentary from me in it, mostly because I don't know most of the historical games but if you're wondering what it was like there you go. The Hawk stand is in there as well as the 'full size' New Orleans carrier, but like all the stands it's a quick swing-round of the camera.
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# ? Apr 18, 2016 08:10 |
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I thought Dropzone had a rule that Evasion was negated by AA weapons, but now I can't find that. EDIT: Maybe I was confused with Skimmers, since those DO have that rule, and it states that the Skimmer rule is a special form of Evasion? EDIT2: Checked the rules forum and Evasion is definitely not negated. wdarkk fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Apr 18, 2016 |
# ? Apr 18, 2016 22:42 |
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It's a bit of a mess at the moment - Skimmers don't have the evasion rule as 'this is already included in the skimmer bonus', but the +2Ac for skimmers is ignored by AA weapons, and evasion isn't (As some flyers have Evasion, which would make it pointess). It's from 1.0 not having Evasion countermeasers, but the skimmer/AA rule is there.
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# ? Apr 18, 2016 22:54 |
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I'm thinking that the difference in AA vs Skimmer and AA vs Evasion is intentional, albeit confusing, due to some air units having Evasion (which would never work otherwise). What's a good way for Scourge to kill Freeriders/ATVs? They have high armor (for infantry) and high speed, so my Screamer was never able to get into position to shoot them (and even if it could, it'd have a hard time damaging them), and they have high evasion, so everything else was missing like crazy. The Annihilator has a poor accuracy already and just deviated off them.
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