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Duke Igthorn posted:*holds up a paper bag full of poop* < this is you *holds up a picture of me* <this is me. *picture of me in my voice* I think that kid got off way too easily for a crime spree that ended in four deaths *paper bag full of poop in a mouthful of poop voice* OH SO YOU WANT EXTREME PUNISHMENT FOR A MINOR HUH????? * *picture of me* maybe there's a middle ground between keeping him in the environment that fostered the behavior his own lawyer admits is toxic and murdering him with a drill? *paper bag full of poop* YOU JUST WANT REVENGE RAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!! *picture of me puts on a leather jacket and skateboards away to have sex with many hot women* *bag of poop* THIS IS A VALID DEBATE TACTIC!!! *holds up two pictures of me* "this guy appears upset" "oh, quite"
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get dual monitors, turn one off, and then when you turn the otherone off turn the first one on, then keep doing that
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computer parts posted:How many people? The problem is ISPs say they will service you at X price, until you get to contracting and then you find out, oh well there's a $10k installation fee because we need to lay new line to service your specific location.
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Apr 15, 2016 22:18
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BonoMan posted:Mississippi, which is getting railed in the news (rightfully so - even though Gov. Bryant says everyone is "overreacting"), has decided to forgo any sensible legislation or repealing of our discriminatory laws and instead hit the really important topics. Is there anything to this law other than scratching a bizarre, culturally backwards itch? I can't imagine any demonstrable need to have armed security inside a church. Is this just taking God and guns and mashing them together for feel good legislation or are people in MS sincerely terrified that ISIS is going to kick down the chapel doors and open fire any day now? Do priests and pastors get a say in whether people can carry firearms into their churches?
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Amergin posted:Military <> Public Works  this is amazing thank you.
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I hope every black church in Mississippi stations armed guards at their doors.
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Apr 15, 2016 22:26
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BonoMan posted:Apparently the ATF defines pistol as any handgun that doesn't contain it's ammo in a revolving cylinder so there was probably a need to CYA and make sure they were distinctly mentioned here. Yeah, both dictionary and legal definitions are kind of all over the place so I'm sure that's it. Pistol can either be defined the same as a handgun, or as a not-revolver handgun, depending on who's talking.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Is there anything to this law other than scratching a bizarre, culturally backwards itch? I can't imagine any demonstrable need to have armed security inside a church. Is this just taking God and guns and mashing them together for feel good legislation or are people in MS sincerely terrified that ISIS is going to kick down the chapel doors and open fire any day now? Do priests and pastors get a say in whether people can carry firearms into their churches? Column rear end in a top hat, meet Column Bigot. PhazonLink posted:Except this is already a thing. There's a non -zero amount of small towns and horror stories where a town sheriff ,the local church, and football coach are gods. I guess, also I'm a white dude so my time spent in the deep south was pretty... mundane. Still sucks 
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Is there anything to this law other than scratching a bizarre, culturally backwards itch? I can't imagine any demonstrable need to have armed security inside a church. Is this just taking God and guns and mashing them together for feel good legislation or are people in MS sincerely terrified that ISIS is going to kick down the chapel doors and open fire any day now? Do priests and pastors get a say in whether people can carry firearms into their churches? They seriously, legitimately believe they are about to be under attack. They literally think ISIS is probably somewhere planning an attack this VERY SECOND on their own little backyard church. Myopic doesn't even cover it. These are people so bored with their lives or upset at what their lives have become that they need to create elaborate fantasies to feel they have a purpose.
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Apr 15, 2016 22:35
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BonoMan posted:They seriously, legitimately believe they are about to be under attack. They literally think ISIS is probably somewhere planning an attack this VERY SECOND on their own little backyard church. Remember too that when the Charleston church shooting occurred they were falling all over themselves to loudly proclaim that the incident had NOTHING to do with race AT ALL and was instead a targeted attack on Christianity, and All Lives Matter. Quite a few of them probably actually believe that so I'm sure there's a very real fear that a scary atheist is going to show up and definitely shoot up their all-white church for loving Jesus too much.
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Apr 15, 2016 22:40
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Aerox posted:Remember too that when the Charleston church shooting occurred they were falling all over themselves to loudly proclaim that the incident had NOTHING to do with race AT ALL and was instead a targeted attack on Christianity, and All Lives Matter. Yeah they definitely view themselves as some sort of underdog fledgling group of people that EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET!
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The thing to remember is that they want their paranoid fantasies to become reality. They get off on the thought of an ISIL gunman storming their church so that not only do they get to play cowboy and heroically slay the bad guy but also because they desperately want their pathological racist world view to be proven correct. I honestly believe that if you delved deep enough into the core of these people that they would be more than willing to see their fellow Christian parishioners brutally murdered in some terrorist attack if it means that they can then exploit the fallout from that tragedy for their own purposes.
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Apr 15, 2016 22:47
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It's going to be fun to read how a few non-white families who have been to the same church for decades were escorted out of the church at gun point 'just in case one of them was in ISIS' soon. Edit: Oh, and won't this mean guns will can now be bought tax free for the church? Jim Bob can now get that uzi he always wanted.
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Apr 15, 2016 22:48
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The thing to remember is that they want their paranoid fantasies to become reality. They get off on the thought of an ISIL gunman storming their church so that not only do they get to play cowboy and heroically slay the bad guy but also because they desperately want their pathological racist world view to be proven correct. I honestly believe that if you delved deep enough into the core of these people that they would be more than willing to see their fellow Christian parishioners brutally murdered in some terrorist attack if it means that they can then exploit the fallout from that tragedy for their own purposes. This reminds me of when I was in Texas and some guy was just going off on some documentary made about Saladin. Like he was legitimately pissed and I asked why. Turns out it's because Saladin killed so many Christians during the crusades and that he shouldn't be glorified in a documentary. Like really? It was 1000 years ago and you're still extremely pissed about this one event? It's like time has no meaning for these people.
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Apr 15, 2016 22:52
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Trabisnikof posted:The problem is ISPs say they will service you at X price, until you get to contracting and then you find out, oh well there's a $10k installation fee because we need to lay new line to service your specific location. And how many people does this effect?
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Apr 15, 2016 22:58
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Can someone please elaborate on what all this church law entails? Some of the posts make it sound like it's a step away from letting churches appoint their own Judge Dredd's and I'm hoping the reality isn't quite that ridiculous.
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Apr 15, 2016 23:01
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Buckwheat Sings posted:This reminds me of when I was in Texas and some guy was just going off on some documentary made about Saladin. Like he was legitimately pissed and I asked why. Turns out it's because Saladin killed so many Christians during the crusades and that he shouldn't be glorified in a documentary. Like really? It was 1000 years ago and you're still extremely pissed about this one event? It's like time has no meaning for these people. And Saladin's the one Islamic historical figure we're allowed to like, even. 
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computer parts posted:And how many people does this effect? Probably a couple million. Tiny percentages of a huge amount of people adds up.
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Apr 15, 2016 23:02
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I hope every black church in Mississippi stations armed guards at their doors. This was my immediate kneejerk response. Frankly, they periodically need it way more than any white Christian church in the country ever has.
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Apr 15, 2016 23:03
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Buckwheat Sings posted:This reminds me of when I was in Texas and some guy was just going off on some documentary made about Saladin. Like he was legitimately pissed and I asked why. Turns out it's because Saladin killed so many Christians during the crusades and that he shouldn't be glorified in a documentary. Like really? It was 1000 years ago and you're still extremely pissed about this one event? It's like time has no meaning for these people. lol Saladin was objectively a better and more merciful human being than every one of his Christian King contemporaries. And only one side was slaughtering innocent civilians by the tens of thousands, mostly Jews, just because they existed and it wasn't the Muslims.
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Zerilan posted:Can someone please elaborate on what all this church law entails? Some of the posts make it sound like it's a step away from letting churches appoint their own Judge Dredd's and I'm hoping the reality isn't quite that ridiculous. It is. Churches are empowered to hire private armed security forces, those security forces are allowed to use deadly force if they feel it is justified and will be given the same leeway as sworn law enforcement officers when making that determination.
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Buckwheat Sings posted:This reminds me of when I was in Texas and some guy was just going off on some documentary made about Saladin. Like he was legitimately pissed and I asked why. Turns out it's because Saladin killed so many Christians during the crusades and that he shouldn't be glorified in a documentary. Like really? It was 1000 years ago and you're still extremely pissed about this one event? It's like time has no meaning for these people. So what about the Romans pre- conversion or the Vikings pre- conversion?* *I already know the answer.
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Mulva posted:It is. Churches are empowered to hire private armed security forces, those security forces are allowed to use deadly force if they feel it is justified and will be given the same leeway as sworn law enforcement officers when making that determination.  Welp, this is probably going to blow up the moment security for a black church or a mosque shoot a white guy and the Miss. government tries their hardest to imply "well we meant white Christian churches only" without flat out saying it.
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Zerilan posted:
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GreyjoyBastard posted:This was my immediate kneejerk response. I think there's some black church in Arkansas that got burnt exactly for doing this back in the 20s
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Zerilan posted:
It's worse as it doesnt have to be an actual security force. It's literally made to be able to make regular parishioners the "security force." They do have to be licensed gin owners but that's a tiny formality. They are awarded immunity for their actions. It's not like they are required to hire an actual security force that trains and insures their employees.
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BonoMan posted:It's worse as it doesnt have to be an actual security force. It's literally made to be able to make regular parishioners the "security force." They do have to be licensed gin owners but that's a tiny formality. They are awarded immunity for their actions. I'm having a hard time imagining any scenario that doesn't involve that old southpark episode meme They're comin' right fer us! In which these people don't somehow gun down a bus full of Mexican children. Its the Stand Your Ground church edition. It makes no goddamn sense.
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Mississippi just legalized a neo medieval Knights Templar. Not really that surprising given their long obsession with grand knights and wizards. 
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Also it legalizes permitless concealed carry throughout the state so hurray! Bout to join the ranks of the politest societies.
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whitey delenda est posted:Also it legalizes permitless concealed carry throughout the state so hurray! Bout to join the ranks of the politest societies. White Knight (lol) meets Black Cop in White Neighborhood.
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If you think that the prosecutor, judge, and jury will actually give the muslim security guard the same 'leeway' as police officers then I have a racist bridge to sell you.
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Yeah if I were in the ACLU or SPLC or something like that, I'd start putting aside money to find mosques and black churches in MS and get members gun licenses and (tax-free!) guns, like now. You don't like the visuals of two muslim men with handguns standing outside a mosque looking very serious? Welp, your dumb bill did this.
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RuanGacho posted:White Knight (lol) meets Black Cop in White Neighborhood. A Honkey in Bling Arthur's Court
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I hope every black church in Mississippi stations armed guards at their doors. This, but Mosques. Though it'd probably(definitely) result in some good 'ol boys killing said muslims "because they're ISIS" or some equally awful poo poo reason.
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Yes, providing the next great conservative image meme will surely not backfire for American Muslims. Otoh, I am getting tired of that same old black panthers intimidating voters photo in fwd:fwd:fwd from old people.
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Considering these bills are just to fuel the paranoia, racist sentiments, and persecution complexes of conservative Christians, I'm sure there will be some mosques or churches with mostly black congregations considering having guards out of legitimate security concerns.
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Zerilan posted:Considering these bills are just to fuel the paranoia, racist sentiments, and persecution complexes of conservative Christians, I'm sure there will be some mosques or churches with mostly black congregations considering having guards out of legitimate security concerns. Usually they hire professionals. This bill is about regular church members becoming armed guards too.
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The very discussion shows how disconnected this world is from the Next Level. These people call themselves Christians.
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