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 One quarter down, three to go, and US Politics ain’t getting any simpler. Between the digging in of heels at a Supreme Court nominee and the wild riotous rallies of Donald Trump, the United States sure seems to be losing its center. But hey, it’s not all bad! The median low income person can no longer afford their median low income housing, food and transportation costs! So sit tight, because before we get to the long, hot summer, we first need to take a wild ride in the USPOL thread for April 2016!  114th Congress Bingo Card You will be unsurprised to learn that Congress has done quite well to uphold their vow to do very little this month, but that doesn’t mean we can’t check in on our favorite branch of government!
 Other News, featuring the Clinton Corner Beware of Hillary, because she’ll control when you wake up! I think it goes without saying that that means you shouldn’t vote for Hillary! In other news…
Talk to other goons (why would you want to do that?) Remember that we have an IRC channel at synirc in #poligoon for livesteaming stuff. Goon Recommendations Documentaries
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Related threads "US Politics" is an incredibly broad topic, as A) the country is freaking huge and B) given our role in international events pretty much everything impacts us. So there are other subthreads 2016 Presidential Primary 2016 US Senate Elections SCOTUS thread Right Wing Media There are also regional subthreads that are usually pretty slow, but sometimes cross-pollinate with this thread when something important is happening. Pacific Northwest Illinois Texas California Lifted the rest of the above from FriedChicken. As before post suggestions for adding to the above and I'll edit them in if I see them. And remember folks, drink chat goes in D&D chat thread. Drink responsibly. Your liver will thank you. 
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Is that reading list in the OP still considered worth reading? I've been looking for some politics books.
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I'd say so, yes, but would make a few additions: Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right by Jane Mayer The Price of Inequality: How Today's Divided Society Endangers Our Future by Joseph Stiglitz Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea by Mark Blyth Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq, 2003 to 2005 by Thomas Ricks The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East by Robert Fisk Dreamland: The True Tale of America's Opiate Epidemic by Sam Quinones Somebody fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Apr 1, 2016 09:58
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GOP the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o
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So today is the day when the GOP says "Haha, Gotcha" Right? gently caress.
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Apr 1, 2016 13:38
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Tennesseans: do you have any good local politics blogs you follow? I'm getting tired of trawling the local news websites for Nashville politics and would welcome any opinions on good link aggregators or blogs for it.
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Apr 1, 2016 13:45
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So California has passed a $15 minimum wage. Governor Moonbeam has promised to sign it on Monday. It will slowly increase the minimum wage until it hits $15 in 2022 (2023 for businesses with 25 or less employees), and starting in 2024 it will tie the minimum wage to inflation. This was a panicked effort by the legislature because two union groups had ballot propositions going up in November that would have probably passed and set the min wage to $15 a hell of a lot faster.
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California's Governor is named Moonbeam?  That's awesome.
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Apr 1, 2016 13:55
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Solfrann posted:So today is the day when the GOP says "Haha, Gotcha" Trump comes to the podium. He announces that his entire run up to this point was a sham. The lights go dim, everyone is silent, suddenly California Love starts to blare across the room. Bah Gawd that's Marco Rubio's music!
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Apr 1, 2016 13:57
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gradenko_2000 posted:California's Governor is named Moonbeam? It's an old name for Jerry Brown going back to the 70s because he locked up the weird people vote in CA: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/weekinreview/07mckinley.html?_r=0
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Man, good for them. I wish I still lived there, even though it wouldn't affect me in any way. I look forward to when it's fully kicked in and CA's economy does gangbusters, much to the shock and chagrin of the GOP.
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Apr 1, 2016 14:01
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I completely missed out on the Alabama governor's sex scandal. Was it discussed in the March thread?
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OxySnake posted:Bah Gawd that's Marco Rubio's music! Maybe it'll be an amazing magic trick and it turns out that the Real Rubio was in a Trump suit all along, and he had sent an automaton to all those debates.
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WampaLord posted:Man, good for them. I wish I still lived there, even though it wouldn't affect me in any way. They'll blame it on GOP bootstraps or something else reeking of poo poo.
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gradenko_2000 posted:California's Governor is named Moonbeam? Here's his official song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoA_zY6tqQw
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Hang on there, California wage earners! Things will be getting better (in the next decade or so). CA needs $15/hr yesterday, not in six years.
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Josh Lyman posted:I completely missed out on the Alabama governor's sex scandal. Was it discussed in the March thread? It's been percolating for a while I believe.
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Litany Unheard posted:Here's his official song: i mean the shock about Jerry Brown was, to me, that this guy from 30 years ago is still politically relevant on a state level without achieving any sort of national office.
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Litany Unheard posted:So California has passed a $15 minimum wage. Governor Moonbeam has promised to sign it on Monday. Does this end the $15 fight or are activists viewing it as a firewall?
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Jerry Brown is precisely the right kind of crazy needed to govern California.
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DemeaninDemon posted:They'll blame it on GOP bootstraps or something else reeking of poo poo. That will probably work well enough for GOPe purposes unfortunately. Just look how well they've been able to continue with all the tried and true Protect the Job Creators/Economy/America by Lowering Taxes myth despite what has been happening in Kansas and other states where they've been successful at implementing their dream policies. Personally I think its going to take some sort of crisis where those policies and myths are seen as the cause of the crisis, or at least as being unable to address that crisis, by the people who keep voting Repub. for things to change in those states. I simply have no idea what that sort of crisis might look like. By any reasonable measure these people should've started voting out the current Repubs and at least replacing them with other Repubs (if not Dems) who would support other policies a few years ago but instead they've been reelected without much issue. I don't see how this doesn't all get at least a little ugly. By that I mean almost total failures of local govt. and economies in the poorer or former middle class areas in those states that went full bore with the small govt. and low-to-no-tax planks.
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Radbot posted:Hang on there, California wage earners! Things will be getting better (in the next decade or so). Generally speaking, that quick of a hike could actually have some the negative effects that you hear about when people talk about min wage raises, that's why a gradual approach is usually best. Six years to roughly double might sound like a long time and without looking it might be a little longer than needed, but there are real issues to consider when you're talking about raising wages quickly for such a large amount of people with some very diverse economic situations across the state.
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gohmak posted:Does this end the $15 fight or are activists viewing it as a firewall? The unions agreed to pull their ballot measures if this legislation passed. The fight is over, the war is won. And the real win here is tying the wage to inflation. California will automatically raise their minimum wage along with inflation starting in 2024. Hopefully this ends up serving as a model for other states.
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Joementum posted:Jerry Brown is precisely the right kind of crazy needed to govern California. You have to give credit to Arnold for his barely concealed contempt for the legislature though.
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I remember reading in previous threads about rear end in a top hat landlords who gathered to discuss the best ways to extract ever-increasing rent from their tenants. What prevents any hike in minimum wage from finding its way into their pockets, especially if they collude to set a rising floor on rents?
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Litany Unheard posted:So California has passed a $15 minimum wage. Governor Moonbeam has promised to sign it on Monday. Cuomo announced a budget last night that includes a similar plan to get to $15, although it scales up at different speeds in different parts of the state. I think NYC is supposed to get to $15 by 2018 but other areas may take until 2022 or stop short of $15. Nice to see some good news about state-level initiatives for a change after all the heinous regressive bullshit certain states have been pulling lately.
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Radbot posted:Hang on there, California wage earners! Things will be getting better (in the next decade or so). Christ Radbot, you're never happy. How do you get through the day?
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DemeaninDemon posted:The Gop true believers don't feel cognitive dissonance. If you're a friend or family member of them, and you're persistent and willing to put up with the BS of talking to someone who does that stuff, you can eventually make them really start to think and reassess their beliefs. On the internet however...forget it. Grundulum posted:What prevents any hike in minimum wage from finding its way into their pockets, especially if they collude to set a rising floor on rents? PC LOAD LETTER fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Grundulum posted:I remember reading in previous threads about rear end in a top hat landlords who gathered to discuss the best ways to extract ever-increasing rent from their tenants. What prevents any hike in minimum wage from finding its way into their pockets, especially if they collude to set a rising floor on rents? The hope there is that if they get too greedy or raise rents too quickly it would trigger the state legislature to act. That possibility might act as a brake though the more shortsighted ones (most of them, really) might try to cash in regardless.
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Grundulum posted:I remember reading in previous threads about rear end in a top hat landlords who gathered to discuss the best ways to extract ever-increasing rent from their tenants. What prevents any hike in minimum wage from finding its way into their pockets, especially if they collude to set a rising floor on rents? Ideally, some Form of rent control?
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so ny, ca, and wa will have $15 min wages in the future. any other states?
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Hulk Krogan posted:Cuomo announced a budget last night that includes a similar plan to get to $15, although it scales up at different speeds in different parts of the state. I think NYC is supposed to get to $15 by 2018 but other areas may take until 2022 or stop short of $15. It was announced as $15 for NYC, $12.50 for the rest of the state. Which is annoying but not unreasonable - the cost of living in NYC is completely out of whack with the rest of the state.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/03/26/black-mailman-handcuffed-by-nypd-while-delivering-packages-video-shows/ This get covered yet? it was a few days ago, but I didn't see it after skimming the last thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boSnHI6idsE edit Abel Wingnut posted:so ny, ca, and wa will have $15 min wages in the future. any other states? All of them once Bernie is president 
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Sir Tonk posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/03/26/black-mailman-handcuffed-by-nypd-while-delivering-packages-video-shows/ It's getting really frustrating that this sort of thing is being covered more in the media because of camera phones and such but no one seems to want to do anything about it.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:They do. You can tell by how they suddenly drop the subject or instantly shift to the next talking point about the subject (if there is one, elsewise they drop it) then get angry at you if you won't let it just go. Perhaps I spend too much time in the Freep thread then. My city's running into that hard. Not much in the way of low end homes but there are sure as hell a lot of henry-light (for the area) housing development going on. Market's brutal for those shopping for under 200k.
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OxySnake posted:Trump comes to the podium. DeathSandwich posted:Trump get's ratfucked at the RNC. All the while a shadowy robed figure sits unmoving on stage. As the votes are collected the robed figure approaches the podium unprovoked and begins breathing heavy.
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Radbot posted:Hang on there, California wage earners! Things will be getting better (in the next decade or so). you're an accelerationist, why would you want CA to ever get a minimum wage increase
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Zelder posted:you're an accelerationist, why would you want CA to ever get a minimum wage increase So he can complain that it's not enough.
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Zelder posted:you're an accelerationist, why would you want CA to ever get a minimum wage increase Can't whine about incrementalism if nothing incrementally good ever happens.
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