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Hogge Wild posted:toi sun tarinasi kuulostaa käyräkurkkudirektiivi-tarinalta Plot twist: the permit is actually only available at R-kiosks. (Like passports.)
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No toi oli se toinen vaihtoehto mitä odotin eli joku kiistää tarinan todenperäisyyden kun ei ole itse törmännyt samaan. Sääntelyhän on hyvästä ja jos viranomainen kahnaa eikä tiedä mistään mitään syy on toki hallintoalamaisen eikö juu. Tämä ketju ei petä. Jäbä on muuten ollut yrittäjä vuodesta -95 asti. Kyllä se tietää mitä tekee.
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Apr 16, 2016 12:21
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Ligur posted:Jäbä on muuten ollut yrittäjä vuodesta -95 asti. Kyllä se tietää mitä tekee. All evidence points to contrary.
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Apr 16, 2016 12:21
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You guys are defending Trafi for banning a no-risk business  I nailed that 
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Apr 16, 2016 12:25
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Ligur posted:Jäbä on muuten ollut yrittäjä vuodesta -95 asti. Kyllä se tietää mitä tekee. If he is for example a raksa-yrittäjä, he probably knows lot about raksa-stuff. That doesn't actually matter poo poo when it comes to a different specialty, like Totally heterosexual Yacht club ownership.
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Apr 16, 2016 12:28
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I don't know about you guys, but super anal regulations about motor vehicles sounds just like Finland.
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Apr 16, 2016 12:33
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The worst part is these guys *like* it and are attacking the enterpreneur.
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Apr 16, 2016 12:42
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Elukka posted:Yeah if you just take it at face value. If this catches on, companies will cycle through sufficiently desperate people under the illusion that they may get employed and use them for free labor. Another fun possibility is it will become the norm to work for free for your first few months because if you're willing to do it and someone else is not clearly you are the better employee. Also I hate to break it to you but for most people over the course of their lives, the state gives more than they pay towards the running of the state, meaning that your argument about the state supporting peoples' living costs and training while companies "use" us when we are profitable will apply to almost everyone. It's a choice we make by voting for a welfare state. At the same time, these companies make the goods and services that make our quality of life so high so...
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Apr 16, 2016 12:49
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Ligur posted:The worst part is these guys *like* it and are attacking the enterpreneur. The worst part is you STILL not understanding that posting unconfirmed anecdotes as a defense for political opinions is treated by ridicule in general regardless if they are real or not, because there is no way of knowing it on the internet! And LOL at Germany not having five gazillion directives, where do you think the ideas for them in the EU come from, Netherlands? German bureucracy is basically treated as a national characteristic by the German people. They even have a nickname for it instead of putting two words that describe it together. Third of the people in parliament are former civil servants! DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Apr 16, 2016 13:00
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DarkCrawler posted:The worst part is you STILL not understanding that posting unconfirmed anecdotes as a defense for political opinions is treated by ridicule in general regardless if they are real or not, because there is no way of knowing it on the internet! Compared to Finland, Germany is pretty de-regulated. But whatever. The most hilarious part for me is people considering something that didn't happen to them cannot be real if it was posted on the internet. Having internetted for 30 years I can assure you, I don't take anything for given but saying you have to disagree with someone just because it was posted on the internet is pretty sick. Why even post or discuss with anyone anywhere if your position is "that didn't happen/is not real".
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Apr 16, 2016 13:05
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Ligur posted:Compared to Finland, Germany is pretty de-regulated. But whatever. It's really, really, really not. Not that it is something that can be measured perfectly but what I suppose the closest thing to it, Ease of Doing Business Index, actually ranks Finland higher (in the ease of doing business). Go to Germany sometimes. Even the prostitution is regulated. Ligur posted:The most hilarious part for me is people considering something that didn't happen to them cannot be real if it was posted on the internet. Having internetted for 30 years I can assure you, I don't take anything for given but saying you have to disagree with someone just because it was posted on the internet is pretty sick. No, I believe plenty of things are real on the internet. Because these days they are often accompanied by video & photographic evidence. Random anecdotes are fine if you're just telling a funny story and the like, not trying to make a point about something bigger then one person's unconfirmed experiences. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Apr 16, 2016 13:19
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DarkCrawler posted:Go to Germany sometimes. Even the prostitution is regulated. "Regulated" is less regulated than "banned" though
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Apr 16, 2016 13:20
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DarkCrawler posted:It's really, really, really not. Not that it is something that can be measured perfectly but what I suppose the closest thing to it, Ease of Doing Business Index, actually ranks Finland higher (in the ease of doing business). Weird poo poo I have friends living in there and it doesn't sound like everything is so banned as it is in Finland, perhaps they are lying though. quote:No, I believe plenty of things are real on the internet. Random anecdotes are fine if you're just telling a funny story and the like, not trying to make a point about something bigger then one person's unconfirmed experiences. Ahhh, so you can tell anecdotes as long as they have no context, without people flipping out and calling you a liar. Go gently caress urself 
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Apr 16, 2016 13:23
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Darkest Auer posted:"Regulated" is less regulated than "banned" though Well yeah it was more of a joke about the German bureucracy extending everywhere. Seriously I don't know how people don't know about Germany being ridiculously strict about rules. I mean kind of their main stereotype after Nazis. I bet Germany has a million rules about boats and they also invented the rule that Ligur's friend is having problems with too. Ligur posted:Weird poo poo I have friends living in there and it doesn't sound like everything is so banned as it is in Finland, perhaps they are lying though. Well name one thing that isn't "so banned as it is in Finland" besides beer & buying sex which I assume is closer to the stuff you talking with your friends then say the regulatory framework of the entire German economy. Finland has some specific things that are less regulated then in Germany. Firearms & other weapons for one thing that comes to mind immediately Ligur posted:Ahhh, so you can tell anecdotes as long as they have no context, without people flipping out and calling you a liar. Them being a funny random story is the context. I mean you could accuse them of lying about their drinking tale but it would be kind of weird because there is no weight or intention behind the story, it is just intended to amuse. You on the other hand are trying to make a point about politics. If you don't see the difference then  but maybe everyone else aren't being the crazy ones in this case. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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http://www.vttexpertservices.fi/pal...nesertifikaatti
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DarkCrawler posted:I bet Germany has a million rules about boats and they also invented the rule that Ligur's friend is having problems with too. That I don't doubt
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Apr 16, 2016 13:30
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My funny anecdotes are still being notarized by the Chinese Foreign Ministry and the Finnish embassy.
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Apr 16, 2016 14:05
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loving anecdotes!!! 
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Apr 16, 2016 14:23
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Darkest Auer posted:My funny anecdotes are still being notarized by the Chinese Foreign Ministry and the Finnish embassy. Are people being freaked out and angry at you for recounting said anecdotes though?
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Apr 16, 2016 14:40
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Ligur posted:Are people being freaked out and angry at you for recounting said anecdotes though? 
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tämä ei ole kiina- vaan mongooliketju
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Apr 16, 2016 14:54
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Ligur posted:You guys are defending Trafi for banning a no-risk business No, the guys don't believe your story because of your poor moral character, which was demonstrated nicely by this ridiculous pre-emptive uhriutuminen Odotin lähinnä sitä, että joku olisi vastannut tuohon viestiin joko puolustellen sääntelyä tai haukkuen minut natsirasistiksi koska kaverin vene on selkeesti paska ja rasistivene. There is a difference. If it really is true that this magic EU marker is impossible to obtain that really is hosed up. Feel better now?
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Apr 16, 2016 14:59
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Hogge Wild posted:tämä ei ole kiina- vaan mongooliketju There are actually more Mongols in China then in Mongolia
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I just meant that being a private entrepreneur in Finland is literally the worst testament to an individual's judgement possible.
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doverhog posted:No, the guys don't believe your story because of your poor moral character, which was demonstrated nicely by this ridiculous pre-emptive uhriutuminen Odotin lähinnä sitä, että joku olisi vastannut tuohon viestiin joko puolustellen sääntelyä tai haukkuen minut natsirasistiksi koska kaverin vene on selkeesti paska ja rasistivene. There is a difference. Sure thing except people were freaking out before I posted about "puolustellen sääntelyä..." and so on. I just wanted to see how much in this lanka people want to disagree with everything as long as they can disagree and call someone a racist. I slightly failed, they just wanted to call you (errr, me...) a liar. quote:If it really is true that this magic EU marker is impossible to obtain that really is hosed up. Feel better now? Yeah it's something about the engine being too old or whatever so it's hard or impossible to obtain it appears. Sen lisäksi eri viranomaiset on eri mieltä siitä mikä on oikea sääntö jota noudattaa. And no, I don't feel any better, ylisääntely on perseestä eikä auta tai pelasta ketään. Enintään pahoitin siitä mieleni, että salamana porukka puolusti sääntelyä ja epäuskoi (ihan toden) tarinan vaan koska pitää olla eri mieltä, en muuta syytä oikein edes keksi. edit: vastustan turhaa sääntelyä, olen siis of poor moral character
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Ligur posted:vastustan turhaa sääntelyä, olen siis of poor moral character No, that's because of your whole posting history most of which has nothing to do with sääntely.
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doverhog posted:No, that's because of your whole posting history most of which has nothing to do with sääntely. Perphas you should read my posts, then. I have been against sääntely since forever. Not like, libertarian style, regulating is ok to many extent, but Finland has just taken it too far. It is true not all of my posts are about regulation though, but why should they be. I have many things I am interested in and will post about, not just one. Interested in why you think my moral characer is poor. Like, do you think if you loan me five euros I won't pay it back or what?
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Apr 16, 2016 15:33
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You already called yourself and the boat a nazi racist so it's too late to pretend to not know what I was talking about.
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Apr 16, 2016 15:40
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There's a guy talking to the Berocca advertisement on the bus stop. I really wish right-wingers (i.e. the government) would put some money into (mental) health care.
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I mean I really wouldn't mind if not for the fact that he's rubbing his crotch all the time.
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doverhog posted:You already called yourself and the boat a nazi racist so it's too late to pretend to not know what I was talking about. Then it obviously is very easy to explain what you are talking about, right? So there you go. Explain. edit: oh sorry forgot, this is D&D, I said the boat was a "nazi boat" as a loving joke, because in D&D that is the response you usually get when someone disagrees and it might confuse readers by quite a bit, but doverhog, I'm actually looking for a real response Ligur fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Apr 16, 2016 15:56
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Jerry Cotton posted:I mean I really wouldn't mind if not for the fact that he's rubbing his crotch all the time. olisit voinut edes tervehtiä kun kerran postataan samalla foorumilla
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Ligur posted:Then it obviously is very easy to explain what you are talking about, right?
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Hogge Wild posted:olisit voinut edes tervehtiä kun kerran postataan samalla foorumilla I tried but you were too busy. You were, in a manner of speaking, going hog-wild.
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Kuule hain nussivan posted:I'll bite. What is the actual name of this magic "EU merkki" that is needed. EC-merkintä afaik. However the engine is too old to get one. Still love it, folks are masturbating how awesome regulation is. Suomi nousuun! Lisää sääntöjä! Ei voi olla totta!
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Ligur posted:EC-merkintä afaik. However the engine is too old to get one. OK please name the posters who are having a wank to your posts.
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Ligur posted:EC-merkintä afaik. However the engine is too old to get one.
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It's gonna turn out that the boat is an oil-leaking piece of poo poo that should never be allowed out of a scrapyard in the first place. A guy I know is having a real mixed reaction because he was homeless for a while and mv-lehti went hard on armans homelessness-episode. He's trying to make sense of it on facebook and it's funny and sad at the same time.
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Kehveli posted:It's gonna turn out that the boat is an oil-leaking piece of poo poo that should never be allowed out of a scrapyard in the first place. Basically it boils down to this: Arman is a Muslim, therefore it is bad. MV has to appeal to their demographic, after all.
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DarkCrawler posted:There are actually more Mongols in China then in Mongolia it's THAN you loving mongol
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