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ether
May 20, 2001

Star Citizen: It's all about the Benjamins

edit: catte tax

ether fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Apr 16, 2016

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TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Strategic Tea posted:

They deserved it. Ben's website is the cumulation of just how disgusting everything to do with the community is.

Yeah, but Lando doesn't deserve a free ride because goons find him funny.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

peter gabriel posted:

I am going to take a wild guess here and say they will hand wave it all away

After some of the backer discussions I have had, their ability to ignore things they don't like is unparalleled in human history.

Ezekeel
Nov 18, 2015

This must be the first time I see Lesnick actually taking responsibility for something he said/did. He probably realized not even he could weasel his way out of this one by twisting words and lying like he usually does.

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012

KM Scorchio
Feb 13, 2008

"If you don't find rape hilarious, you're a sensitive crybaby."
This thread is monstrous. It is dwarfed only by Derek's ego.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Ezekeel posted:

This must be the first time I see Lesnick actually taking responsibility for something he said/did. He probably realized not even he could weasel his way out of this one by twisting words and lying like he usually does.

Taking the 'oh I was a kid back then' way out isn't assuming responsibility.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Kakarot posted:

Did he admit to this?I think he might go to jail since he worked at a school..

He loving what?

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

ewe2 posted:

OK I hesitate to call this a comedy parody, and I can't believe I'm feeling slightly guilty for using a Michael Jackson song but...oh god..



* Lyrics
* Originally I wasn't even going to add accordian but it sounded too angry.
* Ben is a creepy motherfucker, pass it on.
* Musicians have the weirdest ways to deal with trauma.

Honestly, I think you went as far with that as you could. Any further and it really wouldn't have been funny at all. So once again, GJ on your music.

beep_boop
Feb 2, 2016
I suck at this poo poo, but I found a thing that makes spaceship shaped wordclouds.

Allow me to present the Ben "HamTwoSlices" Lesnick wordcloud:

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

I'm starting to think the eating isn't due to the misery of working for CIG, it might be the deficient impulse control typical of sociopaths/narcissists. But I'd hate for this to get into threat assessment territory.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Skellybones posted:

You could apply there as a tester, show them your YouTube videos

That's ADORBS!

You thinking they actually HIRE software testers!

You're so cute!

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Hopper posted:

Yeah I guess Beer is right. The website will vanish, it will be spun as goons doing this to ruin the dream and Ben will keep his job. I also doubt he will learn anything and rather post/make some arrogant bullshit comment to the effect of "you lost this one goons".

I actually doubt any media will pick this up. The fear of being torpedoed by the cult is too great.
The overdue story isn't the Book of Loaf, it's "Citizen Con". We know it inside and out and this thread is a testament to how unbelievable it is. Sooner or later that story hits. As with the Ion Storm story a generation ago, there comes a time when the disparity between the public record and the truth is too great, the untold story simply obvious to ignore.

G0RF fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Jul 19, 2016

A Lone Girl Flier
Sep 29, 2009

This post is dedicated to all those who fell by the forums, for nothing is wasted, and every apparent failure is but a challenge to others.

:eyepop:

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

I really don't think sociopaths are as common or cartoonish as people think.

People are perfectly capable of switching off their empathy without a medical condition.

Ponzi
Feb 21, 2016


DEPORTED FROM FLAVOR TOWN

ICSA 67 LOSER
Fun Shoe

D_Smart posted:

As I've said before, I'm very conflicted about Jared because, you know - gently caress it - I like the guy. He reminds me of me with that IDGAF vibe he's got going.

Regardless, I know that deep down, he's the kinda guy who, when push comes to shove, will do the right thing.

Also, him and Ben weren't "friends" and saying they were "colleagues" would be a stretch of sorts.

@lando, I know you're reading this, and I know your SA handle. I also know that you know you're about to get (if not already - remember the conversion from two days ago?) fired.

Now, you should probably make good on that threat to quit, and just do it. This ship has sailed. You know this.

You've had a ton of jobs before; and you can find work again. Good idea not unpacking though.

Also bookmark this: http://www.dereksmart.org/forums/topic/discussion-forum-rules/#post-3048

Did you mean to write conversation?. Otherwise, I don't understand.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

TTerrible posted:

Apart from one of them is a Sci-Fi film and the other on is Jared, a real person, complicit in selling $2k spaceships he knew would never be finished. People have lost jobs, broken up marriages and ruined lives over this poo poo.

I'm gonna chime in here with an unpopular perspective, but one I hope some people can at least consider. I'm sure you've heard of situations where a new casino gets built somewhere, and there's a story or two of some guy who bets away his life savings and house and ruins his family. Anger is always directed at the casino - this was a God-fearing, upstanding family man who was ruined by the casino. It's also bullshit - the man is a weak-willed, self-centered, mathematically-challenged piece of poo poo and always was - he was fortunate to live in an environment where his crippling personality inadequacies simply never encountered the necessary external stimuli to become a liability.

Same with some guy who brags about "never cheating on his wife" when he's an ugly sack of poo poo and his wife is the only woman in a 500-mile radius. Then he goes on a trip to Thailand and fucks the first 60 women he sees, and picks up (and brings home) just as many diseases. "It's the evil of the sex trade corrupting this man!" No, it's him being a dumb, weak prick. The minute temptation came into the picture, he failed.

Such is the case with the Star Citizen backers. Broken marriages and ruined lives happened, but they are not the fault of Star Citizen. Even if the game came out and was 100% of what was promised, what those people have done is abhorrent, and indefensible. Strength comes from standing up and doing the right thing even when presented with overwhelming temptation. The rock star who doesn't gently caress the groupies because he's faithful to his wife. The gambling man who decides the risk isn't worth his house and family and ignores the casino right next door. And the dreamer, for whom Star Citizen represents everything they've ever wanted in a game ever since they were a child, realizing that even if it's real, it's not worth ruining their lives over.

For everything else, there's MasterCard.

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

Strategic Tea posted:

So I'm curious - Ben seems to be passionate about three non wing commander things - terrorism, shooting sprees and fascists.

Someone lay some pop psychology on me? Or is it just that those are the only news-worthy things that'll make it through to you if you're an insulated ignorant piece of poo poo?

Nothing to do with pop psychology - terrorism and shootings are extremely newsworthy, and he stalked a news anchor for years!

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

D_Smart posted:

https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/721441191078723585

Problem here is he was about 25 at the time. Not a kid.

Not just that, he originally linked it himself saying it was just a 'joke site'.

NOW however, he's saying he was an 'angry kid' as in that he meant it seriously only a few years before becoming 'community manager' at CIG.

So which is it? A joke or did you mean this seriously, you big fat scumsucking liar?!

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Scruffpuff posted:

I'm gonna chime in here with an unpopular perspective, but one I hope some people can at least consider. I'm sure you've heard of situations where a new casino gets built somewhere, and there's a story or two of some guy who bets away his life savings and house and ruins his family. Anger is always directed at the casino - this was a God-fearing, upstanding family man who was ruined by the casino. It's also bullshit - the man is a weak-willed, self-centered, mathematically-challenged piece of poo poo and always was - he was fortunate to live in an environment where his crippling personality inadequacies simply never encountered the necessary external stimuli to become a liability.

Same with some guy who brags about "never cheating on his wife" when he's an ugly sack of poo poo and his wife is the only woman in a 500-mile radius. Then he goes on a trip to Thailand and fucks the first 60 women he sees, and picks up (and brings home) just as many diseases. "It's the evil of the sex trade corrupting this man!" No, it's him being a dumb, weak prick. The minute temptation came into the picture, he failed.

Such is the case with the Star Citizen backers. Broken marriages and ruined lives happened, but they are not the fault of Star Citizen. Even if the game came out and was 100% of what was promised, what those people have done is abhorrent, and indefensible. Strength comes from standing up and doing the right thing even when presented with overwhelming temptation. The rock star who doesn't gently caress the groupies because he's faithful to his wife. The gambling man who decides the risk isn't worth his house and family and ignores the casino right next door. And the dreamer, for whom Star Citizen represents everything they've ever wanted in a game ever since they were a child, realizing that even if it's real, it's not worth ruining their lives over.

For everything else, there's MasterCard.

Ok but in this example all of the games in the casino were rigged and were never going to payout and Lando was still furiously selling chips.

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

CrazyLoon posted:

Not just that, he originally linked it himself saying it was just a 'joke site'.

NOW however, he's saying he was an 'angry kid' as in that he meant it seriously only a few years before becoming 'community manager' at CIG.

So which is it? A joke or did you mean this seriously, you big fat scumsucking liar?!

I want to know which goon bought him Enemy Mine. Becuase thats either Toast's or Lando's alt account.

SurfaceDetail
Feb 17, 2016

by Cowcaster

Ponzi posted:

Did you mean to write conversation?. Otherwise, I don't understand.

you dont agree with D_smart. You convert

TODD BONZALEZ
Jul 3, 2010




Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

According to what's been heard, erin isn't the smarter brother, they're both pigshit thick.


And chris did something bad to a group of artists, they responded by saying "gently caress it" and just straight up walking out the door, on the spot.

Was this a very recent thing?

Kakarot
Jul 20, 2013

by zen death robot
Buglord

Crazy_BlackParrot posted:

Awww man, this poo poo is a goldmine
If selling heroin to minors is a crime, then I guess you'd better lock me up. #18,808


:vince:
Def going to jail

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

TTerrible posted:

Ok but in this example all of the games in the casino were rigged and were never going to payout and Lando was still furiously selling chips.

I'll see you that and raise you a neck tattoo.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

cocaine dad show posted:

Was this a very recent thing?

I have no idea whether it was recent, but it was in the uk branch of CIG, want me to message you the deets?

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Yeah, I think I'm broken or something because despite knowing this is all true, my brain still cant process all of this. It refuses to believe someone could be such a unapologetic creep and still get a job as a PR person. It seriously throws into question every single moderating thing he's have a finger on, hell on the entire community.

I dont even feel like poo poo posting anymore. I want off Mr.CIGs wild ride.

Hold the line, lad, HOLD THE LINE! I know it's rough. I know you want to go home, see the family, that special someone. I know it seems this hell will never end. But I promise you this, if we stay the course, we will win! I know we have lost men, good men and women. But their sacrifice will be in vain if we leave now. The enemy is already starting to crack and run. But the only way we can win is if you HOLD THE LINE!

Samizdata fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Apr 16, 2016

The Meat Dimension
Mar 29, 2010

Gravy Boat 2k
I'm buying a donut on the way home gently caress this dude forever.

Danknificent
Nov 20, 2015

Jinkies! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands.

Scruffpuff posted:

I'm gonna chime in here with an unpopular perspective, but one I hope some people can at least consider. I'm sure you've heard of situations where a new casino gets built somewhere, and there's a story or two of some guy who bets away his life savings and house and ruins his family. Anger is always directed at the casino - this was a God-fearing, upstanding family man who was ruined by the casino. It's also bullshit - the man is a weak-willed, self-centered, mathematically-challenged piece of poo poo and always was - he was fortunate to live in an environment where his crippling personality inadequacies simply never encountered the necessary external stimuli to become a liability.

Same with some guy who brags about "never cheating on his wife" when he's an ugly sack of poo poo and his wife is the only woman in a 500-mile radius. Then he goes on a trip to Thailand and fucks the first 60 women he sees, and picks up (and brings home) just as many diseases. "It's the evil of the sex trade corrupting this man!" No, it's him being a dumb, weak prick. The minute temptation came into the picture, he failed.

Such is the case with the Star Citizen backers. Broken marriages and ruined lives happened, but they are not the fault of Star Citizen. Even if the game came out and was 100% of what was promised, what those people have done is abhorrent, and indefensible. Strength comes from standing up and doing the right thing even when presented with overwhelming temptation. The rock star who doesn't gently caress the groupies because he's faithful to his wife. The gambling man who decides the risk isn't worth his house and family and ignores the casino right next door. And the dreamer, for whom Star Citizen represents everything they've ever wanted in a game ever since they were a child, realizing that even if it's real, it's not worth ruining their lives over.

For everything else, there's MasterCard.

Absolutely right, but it doesn't change what are some objectively sketchy business practices - so it's okay to call out SC too.

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

CrazyLoon posted:

Not just that, he originally linked it himself saying it was just a 'joke site'.

NOW however, he's saying he was an 'angry kid' as in that he meant it seriously only a few years before becoming 'community manager' at CIG.

So which is it? A joke or did you mean this seriously, you big fat scumsucking liar?!

I don't think he had realised for himself how bad it is - I don't think he has the necessary social skills or awareness to make that judgement. I suspect that since Lando/others at CIG found out, someone there has drilled into him just how loving bad it is and that he is going to have to be humble as gently caress about it if he wants to come through this storm intact.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

nerds on derek's hate subreddit killed poo poo lesnick said

TODD BONZALEZ
Jul 3, 2010




Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

I have no idea whether it was recent, but it was in the uk branch of CIG, want me to message you the deets?

Sure go ahead, sounds good :)

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Twitter suspended that ShitLesnickSays account. Haha. If it's not so bad why try to suspend the account giving quotes?

Also I don't see how they can hold up that suspension. It wasn't impersonating him.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Danknificent posted:

Absolutely right, but it doesn't change what are some objectively sketchy business practices - so it's okay to call out SC too.

I'm 100% on board with CIG being burned to the ground for everything they've done. 100%. But I feel worse for the people who plunked down $45-$100 or so because they got suckered, much moreso than the people who willfully ruined themselves financially. The second group did the wrong thing even if CIG was totally on the level.

Galarox
Sep 23, 2015

Fun Shoe
Hello all..

Been catching up with the thread (which is impossible... 500 or so pages since I was last online) then, skipping around I saw the Lesnageddon. OMG. He's got to be a dead man walking.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Tigey posted:

I don't think he had realised for himself how bad it is - I don't think he has the necessary social skills or awareness to make that judgement. I suspect that since Lando/others at CIG found out, someone there has drilled into him just how loving bad it is and that he is going to have to be humble as gently caress about it if he wants to come through this storm intact.

Even if he did that, he wrote this, in his own words, 'when he was at school' - what he didn't mention is that he WORKED AT THE SCHOOL AS AN EMPLOYEE.

And now he is seriously admitting with this latest tweet, that what he wrote back then about 13-year olds and sex ect. was serious and NOT a joke!

Jesus H. Christ...just...no really, if journalists or at the drat least orgs like FF don't rip a loving crater into CIG for trying to whitewash or play this off like it's no big deal to have a guy like this in charge of community management since the very start, I seriously don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

Strategic Tea posted:

I really don't think sociopaths are as common or cartoonish as people think.

People are perfectly capable of switching off their empathy without a medical condition.

I mean this kind of proves that though - Lesnick isn't some kind of criminal mastermind, he's just some goony weasel with an inexplicable obsession with what might be the worst sci-fi movie ever made. It's not cartoonish, it's really really banal.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

Galarox posted:

Hello all..

Been catching up with the thread (which is impossible... 500 or so pages since I was last online) then, skipping around I saw the Lesnageddon. OMG. He's got to be a dead man walking.

If you've only got that far, buckle up. You've not seen poo poo yet.

stinch
Nov 21, 2013

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

I have no idea whether it was recent, but it was in the uk branch of CIG, want me to message you the deets?

If it was the character team it's known about.

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Kakarot
Jul 20, 2013

by zen death robot
Buglord

Daztek posted:

I don't like Chinese food:( But I do like offending minorities. So it's a tossup. #17,342

And I don't think there are many minorities at UT either. #17,862

I hate all minorities. I hate carrots. #18,766

If selling heroin to minors is a crime, then I guess you'd better lock me up. #18,808

I like how WC killed off all the minorities. #15,351

I don't get enough mail. I should offend more minorities. #17,098

Can't you just heckle minorities like the rest of us? #13,591

:aaa:

Isn't Toast Asian?

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