a victory for liberty over tyranny

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Liquid Dinosaur: Dec 16, 2011; by Smythe

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

One Doo-dooed in the Cuckoo's Nest.

They did think that some traditionally-woven Native American basket was a bird's nest, and they do love to defecate on Native American artifacts. And Chief was Native American. It's all coming together now.

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# ? May 11, 2024 07:07

ThePeavstenator: Dec 18, 2012; Establish the Buns

Someone should edit laughtracks into videos that SovCits post when they deal with law enforcement. It's funnier writing than most modern sitcoms.

# ? Apr 15, 2016 21:40

ThePeavstenator: Dec 18, 2012; Establish the Buns

"License and Registration please."

*Laughtrack*

:v:

"I do not recognize your authority or wish to create joinder."

*Seinfeld Bass Theme into Scene Cut*

# ? Apr 15, 2016 21:43

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

https://twitter.com/JGermanRJ/status/721084382279114752
https://twitter.com/JGermanRJ/status/721104898230591488
https://twitter.com/JGermanRJ/status/721105956298297344
https://twitter.com/JGermanRJ/status/721148409801891840

# ? Apr 16, 2016 03:20

cumshitter: Sep 27, 2005; by Fluffdaddy

That lawyer has a public Facebook page and it's great, because one post will be, "Welp, did some work on my tractor today" that maybe 1-2 family members respond to and then it will be, "Latest update on the Ammon case" with shitloads of crazies and a few legit looking lawyers commenting. This is all on the page for his practice, not his personal.

Anyway here's more info on why the lawyer was kicked out. Apparently he promised Ammon that he would go to Nevada and NEVER leave the court room. While he was there he got a call from the court demanding something be filed that day, and he chose to conduct his business over the phone there in the court room. He copies the order at the bottom of the post, hopefully someone with law experience can explain what's going on.

I guess it's great that he's supporting his client. I ain't no fancy city lawyer, but shouldn't your lawyer try to stay in the state where he's allowed to practice and in reach of the court where he's representing you? I figure that's how a lawyer is best able to support you.

cumshitter has issued a correction as of 03:37 on Apr 16, 2016

# ? Apr 16, 2016 03:33

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

Price range: $$$

# ? Apr 16, 2016 03:36

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

I wanna give those reviews a look.

"5/5 picked me up from high school and took me to dinner to celebrate beating my DUI!"

# ? Apr 16, 2016 03:42

stuffed crust punk: Oct 8, 2004; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

ThePeavstenator posted:

"License and Registration please."

*Laughtrack*

"I do not recognize your authority or wish to create joinder."

*Seinfeld Bass Theme into Scene Cut*

These people would watch horse apples and not get the joke

# ? Apr 16, 2016 04:55

CaptainSarcastic: Jul 6, 2013

I know the building those chucklefucks have their office in. I used to have lunch there sometimes when I worked downtown. Nice fountain in the courtyard - too bad these fuckwits sully the building with their presence.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 05:31

Kazak_Hstan: Apr 28, 2014; Grimey Drawer

cumshitter posted:

That lawyer has a public Facebook page and it's great, because one post will be, "Welp, did some work on my tractor today" that maybe 1-2 family members respond to and then it will be, "Latest update on the Ammon case" with shitloads of crazies and a few legit looking lawyers commenting. This is all on the page for his practice, not his personal.

Anyway here's more info on why the lawyer was kicked out. Apparently he promised Ammon that he would go to Nevada and NEVER leave the court room. While he was there he got a call from the court demanding something be filed that day, and he chose to conduct his business over the phone there in the court room. He copies the order at the bottom of the post, hopefully someone with law experience can explain what's going on.

I guess it's great that he's supporting his client. I ain't no fancy city lawyer, but shouldn't your lawyer try to stay in the state where he's allowed to practice and in reach of the court where he's representing you? I figure that's how a lawyer is best able to support you.

That is a stunt, nothing more.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 06:10

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I know the building those chucklefucks have their office in. I used to have lunch there sometimes when I worked downtown. Nice fountain in the courtyard - too bad these fuckwits sully the building with their presence.

I firmly support the right of literally everyone to a competent and vigorous defense.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 06:15

cumshitter: Sep 27, 2005; by Fluffdaddy

Kazak_Hstan posted:

That is a stunt, nothing more.

Yeah, I figure it's a stunt. I'm just not sure whether the lawyer purposely submitted a motion he knew would have a deadline on that day or if he took advantage of the call to make a scene.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 06:31

WrenP-Complete: Jul 27, 2012

Does anyone happen to have the link for the document that Fry gave his attorney with the sovereign citizen tomfoolery?

No joinder please.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 07:01

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Ammon Bundy, 4 others balk at pleas in Nevada standoff case

LAS VEGAS � Two sons of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and three other men refused to enter pleas Friday in federal court in Las Vegas to charges in an armed confrontation with government agents two years ago.

Ammon Bundy said that he was mistreated while he was taken by authorities to Nevada from Oregon, where he and the others have been held since their arrests in the occupation of a U.S. wildlife refuge this year.

Ryan Bundy said he wants to serve as his own lawyer.

Blaine Cooper and Ryan Payne said their rights are being violated.

Brian Cavalier offered federal prosecutors a pocket copy of the U.S. Constitution.

The men are among 19 people facing conspiracy, obstruction, weapon and assault charges in the April 2014 standoff with federal agents near Bunkerville.

Magistrate Judge George Foley Jr. entered not guilty pleas for each man and ordered them to remain in federal custody.

Defense lawyers had fought the move to Nevada, arguing that it would impair their ability to effectively represent their clients and prepare for a Sept. 7 trial tied to the 41-day armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge outside Burns.

On Tuesday, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied their request to block the transfer, citing a 1987 U.S. Supreme Court opinion without offering further explanation.

The case, Hilton v. Braunskil, reiterated standards governing when a hold, or stay, should be placed on a civil judgment: when the person requesting it has made a strong showing that he or she is likely to succeed on the merits; that the person will be irreparably injured without a hold; whether issuing a hold would substantially harm other parties; and where the public interest lies.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/04/ammon_bundy_4_others_refuse_to.html#incart_2box

# ? Apr 16, 2016 09:22

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

A good article: http://www.vice.com/read/the-prophet-and-the-acolyte-v23n2

# ? Apr 16, 2016 09:41

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

quote:

2 Bundys, 3 others balk at pleas in Nevada standoff case

LAS VEGAS (AP) � Two sons of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and three other men refused Friday to enter pleas in federal court in Las Vegas to charges in an armed confrontation with government agents two years ago.

Magistrate Judge George Foley Jr. entered not guilty pleas on behalf of each man during a sometimes contentious arraignment that featured cat-calls and cheers from about 30 Bundy backers and defendants' family members, under watchful eyes of about a dozen U.S. marshals.

"We don't need any outbursts," Foley warned from the U.S. District Court bench. Twice he told the restive audience, "This is not a show."

Before balking at entering his plea, Ammon Bundy alleged he had been mistreated in custody to Nevada from Oregon, where he and the others have been held since their arrests in the occupation of a U.S. wildlife refuge this year.

He said he'd been handcuffed for 23 hours during the move, including 11 hours to a bench, and that jailers once passed him by when other inmates were fed. He said he got a meal after he complained.

"I do not see how we are being treated as innocent in any way," he said.

His brother and co-defendant, Ryan Bundy, professed to understand his rights but not the charges against him. He also said he wants to serve as his own lawyer.

The judge noted that a court clerk and prosecutor Steven Myhre had just spent 94 minutes reading the 63-page, 16-count indictment aloud. The word-for-word recital came after the defendants exercised their right to hear the charges against them.

A grand jury accused 19 people � including Friday's defendants, family patriarch Cliven Bundy and 13 others who were arraigned previously � of conspiracy, obstruction, weapon, threats and assault charges in the April 2014 standoff with federal agents near Bunkerville, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. All 19 are now in federal custody in and around Las Vegas.

Seven men, including the five in court Friday, are also facing conspiracy, weapon, theft and damaging government property charges in Portland, Oregon, stemming from the 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

U.S. District Judge Anna Brown in Portland has scheduled jury selection to begin Sept. 7 in the Oregon case, despite defense attorneys' objections that they won't have enough time to prepare and that it would be improper to make their clients defend two cases at once in different states.

Co-defendants Blaine Cooper and Ryan Payne stood Friday next to their court-appointed attorneys in Las Vegas and said their rights were being violated.

Payne told the judge it was "preposterous, sir," to have to defend himself against federal charges in two jurisdictions at the same time.

"I don't understand the pretense of this level of government to bring forth such charges," he added.

Brian Cavalier finished his arraignment � "I will not be entering a plea today," he said � by offering federal prosecutors a pocket copy of the U.S. Constitution.

The cordon of marshals tensed when Cooper picked up the pamphlet and tossed it onto the table of the U.S. attorneys handling the case.

Another federal magistrate judge has scheduled an April 22 hearing to determine if the Nevada case will be designated "complex," and if a May 2 trial date is feasible.

Ammon Bundy's attorney in the Oregon case, Michael Arnold, was removed from the Las Vegas courtroom gallery by marshals after beginning to text on his cellphone while the indictment was being read.

Arnold protested as he left that he hadn't heard a pre-hearing warning that cellphone use was prohibited, because he was meeting with his client at the time.

The lawyer later said he was using the device to meet a deadline set by the judge in the Oregon case.

"Literally I had to be in two places at once," Arnold told The Associated Press. "It illustrates the impossibility of doing two cases at one time justly and fairly."

http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Bundy-brothers-others-due-in-Nevada-court-in-7250803.php

What a mess, plenty more entertainment to come from this I imagine.

I would blow Dane Cook has issued a correction as of 09:46 on Apr 16, 2016

# ? Apr 16, 2016 09:43

Geostomp: Oct 22, 2008; Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Jumpingmanjim posted:

A good article: http://www.vice.com/read/the-prophet-and-the-acolyte-v23n2

So they really were a proto-cult in the making.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 16:25

Bates: Jun 15, 2006

I hope they Drunk History this whole thing. Over-acting with drunken narration is the only way to convey what is happening.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 17:00

Shakenbaker: Nov 14, 2005; Grimey Drawer

Jumpingmanjim posted:

A good article: http://www.vice.com/read/the-prophet-and-the-acolyte-v23n2

This is the best first line of any article ever written:

Vice posted:

Wes Kjar rode shotgun as we drove away from the standoff, over the Stinkingwater Mountains toward Idaho.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 17:43

Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Discendo Vox posted:

https://twitter.com/JGermanRJ/status/721084382279114752

How has she not been indited yet?

# ? Apr 16, 2016 18:18

Edmund Sparkler: Jul 4, 2003; For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

Dapper_Swindler posted:

How has she not been indited yet?

Ideally, the Feds are just doing the same thing to her that they did to the occupiers. Let her get bolder and bolder, doing increasingly stupid poo poo until they throw the book at her.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 22:17

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Dapper_Swindler posted:

How has she not been indited yet?

I'm not sure she's actually broken the law yet.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 23:30

fade5: May 31, 2012; by exmarx

Jumpingmanjim posted:

A good article: http://www.vice.com/read/the-prophet-and-the-acolyte-v23n2

Once again, VICE proves they're at their best when writing about/filming crazy gun-toting heavily-armed militias. Usually they're somewhere in the Middle East rather than the US when they do it though. :v:

Seriously though, that article is pro-click as hell.

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# ? Apr 16, 2016 23:56

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

fade5 posted:

Once again, VICE proves they're at their best when writing about/filming crazy gun-toting heavily-armed militias. Usually they're somewhere in the Middle East rather than the US when they do it though.

Seriously though, that article is pro-click as hell.

VICE is the best magazine about doing heroin in active war zones

# ? Apr 17, 2016 00:48

Rebel Blob: Mar 1, 2008; Can't post for 5 hours!

Photo of one of Cliven Bundy's ultra-free-range cattle. From a petition for the government to round up the Bundy's cattle, for the cattle's own welfare.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:22

Lord of Pie: Mar 2, 2007

Rebel Blob posted:

Photo of one of Cliven Bundy's ultra-free-range cattle. From a petition for the government to round up the Bundy's cattle, for the cattle's own welfare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0&t=9s

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:29

Mad Doctor Cthulhu: Mar 3, 2008

Rebel Blob posted:

Photo of one of Cliven Bundy's ultra-free-range cattle. From a petition for the government to round up the Bundy's cattle, for the cattle's own welfare.

Are there any laws regarding cruelty when it comes to livestock? This is most certainly neglect.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:45

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

Are there any laws regarding cruelty when it comes to livestock? This is most certainly neglect.

livestock are generally exempted from those statutes or subject to lax standards (see, e.g., cowschwitz in california)

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:48

Edmund Sparkler: Jul 4, 2003; For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

Are there any laws regarding cruelty when it comes to livestock? This is most certainly neglect.

There are laws in this country that specifically make it illegal to investigate and record livestock abuse so I wouldn't be super hopeful.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:50

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://twitter.com/oreothlypis/status/721400804968521728

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:52

fade5: May 31, 2012; by exmarx

Rebel Blob posted:

Photo of one of Cliven Bundy's ultra-free-range cattle. From a petition for the government to round up the Bundy's cattle, for the cattle's own welfare.

Jesus Christ, how is that cow still alive? You can literally see the outline of the Aitch Bone clear as day, and those are indentations no cow should ever have.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 03:07

Geostomp: Oct 22, 2008; Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Rebel Blob posted:

Photo of one of Cliven Bundy's ultra-free-range cattle. From a petition for the government to round up the Bundy's cattle, for the cattle's own welfare.

Pictured: The results of Cliven Bundy's leadership skills. Not that it'll help, but I hope pictures of these animals are passed around so that everyone can see just how much of a "rancher" Bundy and his clan really are.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 03:18

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

The Oregon Society of Professional Journalists is having a panel discussion on covering the Oregon Standoff including:

quote:

Panelists include Les Zaitz (The Oregonian), Amanda Peacher and John Sepulvado (Oregon Public Broadcasting), Wanda Moore (KTVZ), and Samantha White (Burns Times-Herald). Jeff Wohler, retired Oregonian editor, will moderate.

They are live tweeting it

https://twitter.com/spjoregon

And I hope there will be a recording

Highlights so far:

https://twitter.com/SPJOregon/status/721519034341064704

https://twitter.com/SPJOregon/status/721520761584754688

https://twitter.com/SPJOregon/status/721522667493335041

https://twitter.com/SPJOregon/status/721525071714451456

# ? Apr 17, 2016 03:31

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Geostomp posted:

Pictured: The results of Cliven Bundy's leadership skills. Not that it'll help, but I hope pictures of these animals are passed around so that everyone can see just how much of a "rancher" Bundy and his clan really are.

no but if they would just give him the land that's rightfully his for some reason that cow would look like this:

# ? Apr 17, 2016 04:54

point of return: Aug 13, 2011; by exmarx

"When I say Ammon Bundy's a dipshit I mean it" should be the new thread title

# ? Apr 17, 2016 04:55

Focacciasaurus_Rex: Dec 13, 2010

FIRST TIME posted:

There are laws in this country that specifically make it illegal to investigate and record livestock abuse so I wouldn't be super hopeful.

Only in Missouri and South Carolina, known backwards poo poo-holes.

Everywhere else those laws were either rejected or quickly repealed for being unconstitutional. :ssh:

# ? Apr 17, 2016 04:56

Mad Doctor Cthulhu: Mar 3, 2008

Geostomp posted:

Pictured: The results of Cliven Bundy's leadership skills. Not that it'll help, but I hope pictures of these animals are passed around so that everyone can see just how much of a "rancher" Bundy and his clan really are.

The dedicated ones will go on about how this is somehow the government's fault, all the while calling up their lawyers asking about any plea deals.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 05:16

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

Jumpingmanjim posted:

https://twitter.com/SPJOregon/status/721520761584754688

Nice to see Brian Cavalier is still staying active.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 05:28

red19fire: May 26, 2010

Knight posted:

Nice to see Brian Cavalier is still staying active.

quote:

Ritzheimer is a staff sergeant and retired Marine reservist with two combat deployments to Iraq as a motor vehicle operator according to personnel records.

Hahaha I was in Motor T. It's where you go if you're too dumb for literally anything else. or have ever admitted to doing drugs, or failed out of any other school.

Officially, I have done drugs once in my life.

VVV Do you yet understand why every single patriot idiot pretends to be black ops special forces and not ho-hum boring rear end jobs?

score requirements:
Motor T Mechanic (me): 95
Bulk Fuel Specialist: 85
Motor T Driver: 85
Basic Infantry: 80

red19fire has issued a correction as of 07:59 on Apr 17, 2016

# ? Apr 17, 2016 05:54

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# ? May 11, 2024 07:07

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

red19fire posted:

Hahaha I was in Motor T. It's where you go if you're too dumb for literally anything else. or have ever admitted to doing drugs, or failed out of any other school.

Officially, I have done drugs once in my life.

Wait so in the marines if they think you're a substance abuser they make you the loving designated driver?

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:15

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