Batman v Superman: Dawn of Color?

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Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

Only twenty minutes.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:13

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# ? May 26, 2024 14:43

Guy A. Person: May 23, 2003

quote:

Sad thing is, I wrote that in 20 minutes

There is a lot more for him to be sad about holy sheesh

:whitewater:

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:15

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!; Lipstick Apathy

Yo here's an incredibly rambling and pandering promo where John Cena finally turns heel and officially brings back the Attitude Era and the sad thing is, I wrote that in 20 minutes

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:20

wyoming: Jun 7, 2010; Like a television
tuned to a dead channel.

That is actually pretty sad for 20 minutes worth of work.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:31

ungulateman: Apr 18, 2012; pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

John Cena as Batman.

I am vengeance.

I am the night.

I am JOHN CENA (doot doo doo doo)

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:31

Equeen: Oct 29, 2011; Pole dance~

ungulateman posted:

John Cena as Batman.

I am vengeance.

I am the night.

I am JOHN CENA (doot doo doo doo)

Please, a pair of jorts can fool him. :rolleyes:

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:39

AccountSupervisor: Aug 3, 2004; I am greatful for my loop pedal

Im going to ask a question to frequent posters in here talking about the editing of the film and it might sound confrontational but Im actually just curious

Do any of you have any formal education in editing or have any experience editing narrative films?

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:41

Yaws: Oct 23, 2013

AccountSupervisor posted:

Im going to ask a question to frequent posters in here talking about the editing of the film and it might sound confrontational but Im actually just curious

Do any of you have any formal education in editing or have any experience editing narrative films?

no lol

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:45

Equeen: Oct 29, 2011; Pole dance~

AccountSupervisor posted:

Im going to ask a question to frequent posters in here talking about the editing of the film and it might sound confrontational but Im actually just curious

Do any of you have any formal education in editing or have any experience editing narrative films?

The Cameo had a pretty decent post about editing:

The Cameo posted:

Assembly cuts usually end up being long like that. Age of Ultron and BvS aren't like M:I 2 where the cut Woo actually wanted to put in theaters was well over three hours. An assembly cut is literally all the scenes you shot slapped together by an editor, using the best takes, to give an amorphous version of the film, much like a rough draft of a story is every goddamn thing that goes through your mind. You could just as well call it an outline cut. Every single plotline, every single character beat, every single thing deemed important enough to print to film is in that damned thing. They're practically dailies laid end to end.

Then you start tearing things out because the editor and director and producer see what things are egregious to the story, what's repetitive statements or character beats, who's important to the story and who's not, and all those little things, and the film whittles down by minutes at a time. And that's just called a rough cut, and that's the one you start showing to the people paying for the picture to show them you haven't hosed the football on their dime. The rough cut is also when you start to go "okay we need to reshoot this, maybe add a beat here" and you start lining up what you're going to use the (normally) already allotted time for pick-ups/reshoots so that when you get to the next step you're not going to be missing anything.

Then you're down to the fine cut. On a bigger movie you're getting finalized FX shots and score is being recorded and laid into the sound mix and sound editors are combing over the cuts and adding foley and you're maybe coming close on locking some of the reels that are less intensive on things and studio screenings are happening and the color timing is locked and everything's at a boil. This is where Snyder and Brenner probably felt great about their three hour cut and then between this and the picture lock (in fact maybe after picture lock, since apparently there was some screenings of this cut as well as an MPAA screening that earned it the R rating) some execs were like "we want this to be 2.5 and oh yeah IT MUST BE PG-13, you sickos" to squeeze in an extra screening a day and they basically had to rip a couple entire character arcs out to make it work.

And then picture locks and FX shots are finalizing and music locks and sound mixing is finalizing and by that point the studio's lining schedules up for everyone for junkets and premieres against people's other obligations. If you're Snyder, you start storyboarding Justice League off of Terrio's latest draft and figuring logistics like shooting locations and whatnot (like Fong having a schedule problem thanks to Skull Island's shooting period and pick-up time coming right in the middle of JL production so gotta find a new DP).

People can remark that directors are turning in real long assembly cuts all they want but the initial Fury Road assembly cut was like five hours long (out of 480 hours of footage, so already that's a culling beyond belief) and Sixel got it to a little over 120 minutes. Editing is a balancing act and a series of gut decisions that you don't necessarily know will pan out. People relate editing to screenwriting quite often, and that's because in the end you're still kind of bumbling around in the dark with a lot of ideas to sift through and figuring out what darlings you can kill and what ones take the whole thing down with them if you do and you're just constantly slamming your head against miniscule moments and revising and revising and revising and revising and

(what I'm saying is that the internet is beginning to have a habit of using the assembly cut against a movie when they're completely missing the intent of an assembly cut in the first place. Age of Ultron's problems aren't sourced in the fact that Whedon had a four-hour cut in assembly, because he was never going to seriously try to put that cut out in theaters.)

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:45

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Equeen posted:

What could have been...

I can't believe we were deprived of such wonderful lines like, "You thought a pair of glasses could fool the world's greatest detective?" and "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck."

my script is better

# ? Apr 17, 2016 02:56

Equeen: Oct 29, 2011; Pole dance~

CelticPredator posted:

my script is better

SUPERMAN: Tell that to Zod's snapped neck.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 03:00

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Equeen posted:

SUPERMAN: Tell that to Zod's snapped neck.

The title this thread deserves.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 03:03

Mazzagatti2Hotty: Jan 23, 2012; JON JONES APOLOGIST #3

CelticPredator posted:

my script is better

# ? Apr 17, 2016 03:05

Guy A. Person: May 23, 2003

CelticPredator posted:

my script is better

Ya but how long did it take you to write it homey?

# ? Apr 17, 2016 03:27

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

alt ending

# ? Apr 17, 2016 03:46

Uatu The Lurker: Sep 14, 2003; I can say no more!
Already I have over stayed my time in this ephemeral sphere!

CelticPredator posted:

alt ending

Shoulda been this.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 04:24

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

CelticPredator posted:

alt ending

Wasn't expecting that. I legit LOL'd.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 05:41

JonathonSpectre: Jul 23, 2003; I replaced the Shermatar and text with this because I don't wanna see racial slurs every time you post what the fuck; Soiled Meat

CelticPredator posted:

my script is better

I can't tell you how much I love, "It's a homing grenade."

# ? Apr 17, 2016 05:42

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Gotdamm autocorrect

# ? Apr 17, 2016 05:51

Yoshifan823: Feb 19, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Equeen posted:

What could have been...

I can't believe we were deprived of such wonderful lines like, "You thought a pair of glasses could fool the world's greatest detective?" and "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck."

The only thing worse than a work a nerd feels they have to correct, is the work that nerd makes to correct it.

CelticPredator posted:

alt ending

Except this this is dope

# ? Apr 17, 2016 06:11

sponges: Sep 15, 2011

Equeen posted:

What could have been...

I can't believe we were deprived of such wonderful lines like, "You thought a pair of glasses could fool the world's greatest detective?" and "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck."

Man, he's getting raked over the coals for this

sponges fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Apr 17, 2016

# ? Apr 17, 2016 06:46

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:

Man, he's getting raked over the coals for this

As he should be, that's high school student fanfiction tier garbage.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:06

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:

Man, he's getting raked over the coals for this

Deservedly so. Him being all smug about it, coupled with his smug-looking profile picture isn't doing him any favors too heh.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:32

Guy A. Person: May 23, 2003

Wheeee posted:

As he should be, that's high school student fanfiction tier garbage.

It's not even that right it's the smugness of the "this only took me 20 minutes :smug:

" line

He could have easily approached it like "I'm not a professional writer but here are my ideas for improving this scene, maybe some banter would help". Instead he thought what he wrote was a vast improvement done in record time. He's delusional about his talent and super smug about it, it's pretty funny!

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:35

sponges: Sep 15, 2011

Wheeee posted:

As he should be, that's high school student fanfiction tier garbage.

The dialogue is so clunky. They're speaking in blatant exposition.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:39

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

Seems like he's backpedaling on twitter now and said he did it for "kicks". Yeah, well... he should tell that to Zod's snapped neck lmao. That loving line.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:40

Guy A. Person: May 23, 2003

Oh weird he did it for kicks? So he wasn't going to submit that script to WB and hopefully get that scene reshot for the director's cut? Well then in that case I guess call off the dogs fellas.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:43

Pirate Jet: May 2, 2010

People are really desperate to avoid the Martha line, huh?

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:49

The MSJ: May 17, 2010

"Tell that to the car wreck containing my father's mangled corpse," said Tony Stark.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:49

sponges: Sep 15, 2011

And doesn't Superman already know that Bruce Wayne is Batman when they fight?

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:52

Yoshifan823: Feb 19, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:

And doesn't Superman already know that Bruce Wayne is Batman when they fight?

Yeah, Clark figures it out in like, 5 seconds at Lex's manor, same as Wonder Woman and Mercy Graves.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:54

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

Guy A. Person posted:

Oh weird he did it for kicks? So he wasn't going to submit that script to WB and hopefully get that scene reshot for the director's cut? Well then in that case I guess call off the dogs fellas.

I'm more surprised he didn't use the "but I said I did it in 20 minutes" option select as a response to everyone making GBS threads all over him on twitter, haha. Not sure if that would have been worse or not though.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:55

Pirate Jet: May 2, 2010

I don't much regret saying that the writing in the actual fight between BatSupes is pretty ace. The characters' ideologies are expressed in way more memorable and concise terms than whatever that kind of garbage is.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 07:56

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

teagone posted:

Seems like he's backpedaling on twitter now and said he did it for "kicks". Yeah, well... he should tell that to Zod's snapped neck lmao. That loving line.

I'm not even sure why Batman would say something like that. It's like... did he sympathize with Zod or...?

# ? Apr 17, 2016 08:09

sponges: Sep 15, 2011

Milky Moor posted:

I'm not even sure why Batman would say something like that. It's like... did he sympathize with Zod or...?

Yeah there's no way this Batman would give a gently caress about Zod being killed. Batman kills low level henchmen in BvS.

sponges fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Apr 17, 2016

# ? Apr 17, 2016 08:11

SuperMechagodzilla: Jun 9, 2007; NEWT REBORN

Sylink posted:

Question: Why didn't superman take the scout ship away from the city by BvS? Wouldn't he want it back in safe hands (in the Arctic or wherever) rather than leave for Lex/governments to peruse?

This is actually a good example of distorted fan expectations: this persistent question of "why didn't Superman..." is based on the presumption that the character can do anything, and therefore the universe is an expression of his will.

Why didn't the character break into Area 52 and steal a bunch of confiscated technology? The actual question is why on Earth would he? - and the only answer there is a tactical-realist assertion that the character must perform optimally. Speedrun for a 100% completion rating, and if anything bad happens it's because he allowed it.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 08:22

Wheeee: Mar 11, 2001; When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Speedrun for a 100% completion rating, and if anything bad happens it's because he allowed it.

Superman hosed up by not demanding no items, Final Destination against Batman.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 09:32

Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

Sylink posted:

Its not like they could stop him.

The whole movie is already 2,5 hours about how they can't do nothing about it and how it scares people.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 10:47

Hollismason: Jun 30, 2007; An alright dude.

I am really surprised this didn't break the billion dollar mark. I was pretty positive it would but uh no.

# ? Apr 17, 2016 12:11

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# ? May 26, 2024 14:43

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

CelticPredator posted:

my script is better

# ? Apr 17, 2016 12:48

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