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Speaking of Summons, is it just me, or are the Anchorites a lot less damaging this time around?
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Speaking of Summons, is it just me, or are the Anchorites a lot less damaging this time around? I think they are. In Default I had to change my equipment in order to survive them while in Second they barely scratched me.
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In Bravely Second you have to choose between the old classes. You get the chance to get the other classes later in the game. Here is a list of what I think you should choose for the easiest time. Chapter 1 1. Red Mage vs. Thief. Pick Red Mage, you get a thief knife in the same dungeon so the main job of thief is dealt with easily and Red Mage is a huge power boost over Wizard. You don't get level 5 or 6 white and black magic spells for ages so it retains its utility deep into the game. The big key is that it gives you Aspir very early on, which means you can devour mana pretty easily without running out. Also it allows for crazy BP recovery shenanigans later in the game. 2. Summoner vs Swordmaster. Pick Summoner. You'll notice most of the time I lean very heavily on magic, this is because Spellcraft completely breaks magic and the game over its knee. Swordmaster doesn't offer much beyond a 33% damage increase if you attack four times with a Brave. Summoner basically gives you level 3 elemental magic early in the game and can hit to close to 9999 mid Chapter 3. It's amazing. Chapter 2 3. Merchant vs. White Mage. White Mage, but pick your preference, Merchant is near worthless, it doesn't have leverage any more and you shouldn't be that low on money in this game. White Mage is stronger but is outpaced by bishop. That said it does give you access to air magic which is fairly useful even with summoner. 4. Ranger vs. Black Mage. Coin Toss, Black Mage gets you pierce M. Def from it which amps magic damage significantly, but its utility is in later chapters when you can just have both and it's outpaced by Red Mage's utility and Wizard's intelligence otherwise. Ranger because it enables Berserk farming so you can level jobs quickly, but otherwise it's not that great. 5. Knight vs. Ninja. Ninja. I used to think this was clearly Knight for 2 handed, but I realised that 2 handed is completely worthless in this game because of how good magic is. Dual wield is basically the only physical ability that lets physical classes keep up with magic, since it works with triple and quad wield to amplify damage from all weapons and Ninja's utility beyond that with Karai and Utsememi means that it has a good niche in damage mitigation. Chapter 3 6. Monk vs. Valkyrie. Monk, it's sad but Valk is completely worthless in this game. The class appears too late to do anything and without spellsword the dragoon style, 2 handed valk build just doesn't hit hard enough. With Monk you at least get access to hilarious dual wield / quad wield / knuckle lore builds that hit like a goddamn truck. 7. Performer vs. Pirate. Performer, but they're both good. That said, all of pirate's utility is actually encompassed by patissier which can provide the same debuffs, but no class you have at the time can perform all party buffs the same way performer can, unless you're doing Astrologian/Spellcraft which takes up twice the BP for a slightly enhanced effect and uses at both slots on a character. 8. Time Mage vs. Dark Knight. Time Mage. This choice is largely irrelevant given the point you're at in the game when it happens. You'll be able to get both pretty shortly after. Time Magic at least enables mass haste when combined with spellcraft which is valuable and Time Mage is also the best lategame class by an absolute mile for damage. Dark Knight honestly doesn't offer much because where it was the highest damage dealing class in default it's blown completely out of the water by Time Mage and Meteor Rain. So yeah, all the choice. Feel free to disagree. Oh and for posterity, if people ask about party composition. Here is a party that you can grind up relatively easily in chapter 5 and that should see you through the game fairly easily. I've made it diverse so as not to make the game that boring to play, so it's not optimal, but it's good. Patissier/Performer. BP Recovery, Status Ailment Amp, Item for All, Prolong Support, Limit Breaker. Equipment is anything that increases agility, a staff and a shield. Your limit breaks should programmed to come up based on item usage. This is the core of any team in my mind. Confectionery items are cheap to buy and you're rolling in money by chapter 5. This is the same as the red mage BP battery back in default. Since Patissier is a fast class, you apply Poison pastry to your whole party 3 times, to generate 3 BP from BP recovery and then let the attacks roll in. After you do this twice you'll have generated enough points to be able to use a level 1 staff limit break. This generates 2 BP on its own, giving you an extra BP to spend on buff spells from Performer or Debuffs from Patissier as is your preference. Wizard/Time Mage. BP Recovery, Pierce M.Def (Replace with Consecutive Magic when you get it), MAttack +20%. Equipment, Dual Wield Rods, anything to increase agility or M.Attack. This one's really easy. You brave four times, click Meteor Rain twice and watch your opponent die. Occasionally for really tough ones you might cast reraise blast first and for the hardest you might choose to also cast Hastega on your first turn. Time Mage is completely bonkers. Wizard is just there because it has high int and carries spellcraft as a basic ability. Exorcist/Bishop. BP Recovery, Epic Group Cast, Spellcraft. Equipment, Staff and Shield, make sure you keep this one's MDef low because it can end up too high. This allows your Wizard/Time Mage to keep attacking for free by undoing MP and allows you to cast Ressurect Mist so that if a party member dies they come back the next turn on full HP. Combined with your Time mage this means your party needs to be fully wiped twice in one turn to die. Ninja/Pirate. BP recovery, Triple Wield, Multitask, Frenetic Fighting, Precognition. Equip with anything that has high damage and anything to improve agility for attacks per round. This is one that I like, it hits hard for physical damage, as in hard enough to wipe out normal packs on its own and is a good enough tank and provides an alternate source of debuffs, specifically Shin smash to debuff speed when your Patissier is occupied with BP recovery. Precognition is there because it has to go somewhere to stop your party from being randomly murdered by normal enemies. Cast Ikkikasei and then attack three times each turn to hit for around 40k damage to a single enemy each turn.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:In Bravely Second you have to choose between the old classes. You get the chance to get the other classes later in the game. Here is a list of what I think you should choose for the easiest time. Thanks for all of this! (totally not quoting for posterity/reference when I get farther in).
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Does a golden-framed-portrait Ba'al mean it has Unearthly Buns? 'cause if so, that means I've got a Firstborn with buns. E0.5: It seems I actually have two golden-framed Firstborns, one with the info in Japanese and one with the info in English. Odd. Not sure which one I should be broadcasting... E: Friend code if anyone wants this: 4124-6348-9920 E2: added everyone in the list here: quote:glassyalabolas - 0962-9842-8949 ZZT the Fifth fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 17:29
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Friend codes are the worst and Nintendo sound have established the NNID system properly for the 3DS instead of waiting til the WiiU. Anyway, what's done is done and here's my FC: 2337-4629-4025 I'm currently deleting old/absent friends to make room for new ones. EDIT I've added the following people: quote:glassyalabolas - 0962-9842-8949 Martini Mice-Cream fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 18:05
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Zore posted:Game is good though Im kinda worried since I've already started hitting the damage cap already with some abilities. So, should I be prioritizing upgrading my MOON BATTLESHIP?
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Apr 17, 2016 18:26
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seeing 9999 pop up is really demoralizing for some reason, especially this early.
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Feel free to add me: 3110-6130-8115 Added the folks below - quote:glassyalabolas - 0962-9842-8949
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Apr 17, 2016 18:33
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Rangpur posted:So, should I be prioritizing upgrading my MOON BATTLESHIP? I did, up to about level 10 - that provides a power of 20. The time to delevel a Ba'al one level seems to be 100 hours divided by the total power, so my ship alone would take about 5 hours to delevel. Two ships like that? 2 and a half hours. That's a pretty good pace, honestly. If you have enough people to make the work really quick it might be worth the effort. It also still functions as a labor sink once everything else is fully upgraded. Which is nice, since Bravely Default didn't leave you much to do when Norende was rebuilt. ZZT the Fifth fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 18:35
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This first Ba'al is pushing my poo poo in. I had access to Holy-elemental damage when I did this fight in the demo and it was great but without it I don't seem to have an effective fast way to kill the shadows he summons much less himself, what am I missing? (hopefully it still involves having weapons on everyone's heads)
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Apr 17, 2016 19:05
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DACK FAYDEN posted:This first Ba'al is pushing my poo poo in. I had access to Holy-elemental damage when I did this fight in the demo and it was great but without it I don't seem to have an effective fast way to kill the shadows he summons much less himself, what am I missing? Heat or Fire Hammer hits his weak point.
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Apr 17, 2016 19:07
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adding people on this list, boy does this take forever. My code is 0919-9578-2527 isk posted:glassyalabolas - 0962-9842-8949
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Apr 17, 2016 19:30
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ZZT the Fifth posted:Heat or Fire Hammer hits his weak point.
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Apr 17, 2016 19:43
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small FYI for everyone entering friend codes. You can enter gibberish for the name. When you're fully added, it'll put the correct name automatically.
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Apr 17, 2016 19:49
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Yorkshire Tea posted:3. Merchant vs. White Mage. White Mage, but pick your preference, Merchant is near worthless, it doesn't have leverage any more and you shouldn't be that low on money in this game. White Mage is stronger but is outpaced by bishop. That said it does give you access to air magic which is fairly useful even with summoner. White Mage landslide, but not for that reason. Air magic doesn't matter. Group Cast Master however, is worth it and has perfect synergy with Bishop.
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Just got started, Friend Code is 1821-9009-4750. God bless Nintendo's jank rear end friend system. e: Added everyone here: quote:glassyalabolas - 0962-9842-8949 Levantine fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 21:16
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Aimee is apparently Hol Horse and also paused the battle to ship Yew and Magnolia. This game. 
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Apr 17, 2016 22:05
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Oh my god please tell me Catmancer doesn't suck because they are adorable.
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Apr 17, 2016 22:19
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Where can I get some good Catmancy abilities in chapter 1? I noticed Aero Lanterns, but I don't know how I'm supposed to charm, confuse, or control them... Also, does my party have to learn powers individually, or does one party member learning teach everyone?
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Apr 17, 2016 22:19
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Oh my god please tell me Catmancer doesn't suck because they are adorable. The moment you get them you have access to White Wind ZZT the Fifth posted:Where can I get some good Catmancy abilities in chapter 1? I noticed Aero Lanterns, but I don't know how I'm supposed to charm, confuse, or control them... Go to the forest north of Ancheim and there's an enemy there with a confusion attack One member teaches everyone
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Apr 17, 2016 22:20
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This is a really great sequel so far. The characters are adorable, and Yew's earnest use of "gravy" is endearing add me: 0962-9245-3678
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Apr 17, 2016 22:28
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Terper posted:The moment you get them you have access to White Wind (thanks  )e: where do I buy the cat food? I only checked Ancheim so watch it just be in a shop at one of the port cities and I look stupid but I'm asking anyway DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 22:34
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Josuke Higashikata posted:White Mage landslide, but not for that reason. Air magic doesn't matter. Group Cast Master however, is worth it and has perfect synergy with Bishop. Yes, but you're likely to have both classes when that matters.
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Apr 17, 2016 22:57
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I can't hear you because everyone in my party is meowing too loudly You research at one of the locations on the Lunar Base, then can buy the ingredients from the Adventurer/save point guy.
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Apr 17, 2016 22:58
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Regalingualius posted:You research at one of the locations on the Lunar Base, then can buy the ingredients from the Adventurer/save point guy.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I can't hear you because everyone in my party is meowing too loudly Build the Bioplant, then buy it from the Adventurer Shop. e:f;b E: So I have Blood Thirst, Perforator, Wing Scales, White Wind, and Panzerlied. Panzerlied is in the most recent dungeon I can access; am I missing anything else? ZZT the Fifth fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Apr 17, 2016 23:00
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Joey McChrist posted:This is a really great sequel so far. The characters are adorable, and Yew's earnest use of "gravy" is endearing Yeah, I'm still in chapter one but I'm already kinda blown away with how much I like this more than the first game, and I liked Bravely Default.
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You can also have three characters use the Dig option four times, then have your slowest character Run. Put encounters to 100% and place yourself in a low-level area and go to town.
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Terper posted:You can also have three characters use the Dig option four times, then have your slowest character Run. Put encounters to 100% and place yourself in a low-level area and go to town. Only real issue with this is that every area has its own dig/harvest table. I had to wander around a bunch digging random places to find Leviathan Shashimi so I could confuse the Aero Lanterns to get White Wind.
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Loved everything about the BD (even the cycle of the later chapters), and am ready for the sequel. My code's 3024-5819-1394, feel free to add. I'm Drewsky on my DS, and it's a duketastrophe. It's always a duketastrophe. Edit: I've added all these folks glassyalabolas - 0962-9842-8949 Mokl - 0920-1295-6522 JT Jag - 1091-7719-7704 Eddian - 0061-0041-4079 ZZT the fifth - 4124-6348-9920 Inflammatory - 2836-0545-8951 Mr. Hasty - 0430-8672-5192 irlZaphod - 3179-6055-6192 Samael - 0061-0189-8488 Junpei Hyde - 2148-8399-4584 Dunban -1848-2888-3654 Turhapuuro - 2638-0603-2955 Kin - 2423-3814-4667 Avalerion - 4484-8908-1219 Suaimhneas 0962-9710-0735 Lizzy 0087-3730-9835 Comrade Kirov 0860-3446-7611 AAAAA 4227-2278-4627 The Iron Rose 0404-9896-4344 Rangpur 2853-0728-4947 Bedurndurn 2294-7457-8286 Konig: 1349-5172-3321 Retcon: 4871-3978-2918 Thuryl - 2406-5175-6057 Apocrypha - 4768-8575-9676 Martini Mice-Cream - 2337-4629-4025 isk - 3110-6130-8115 Joey McChrist - 0962-9245-3678 madmac - 2466-4679-8721 Punch Drunk Drewsky fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Apr 18, 2016 00:00
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This game's so good, but it's hosed up that the part I like best is the user interface.
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Apr 18, 2016 00:25
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Forgot to post my friend code, please add: 2466-4679-8721
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Apr 18, 2016 00:31
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I currently have about 9/13 Catmances. Or whatever they're called. Helped out a lot against Aimee. Right now I'm on the Grapp Keep sidequest and is there any possible excuse to side with Ominas at all? He seems like a total dick.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I currently have about 9/13 Catmances. Or whatever they're called. Helped out a lot against Aimee. bahamut is cute.
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If Damage Dispersal triggers, it's possible for the dispersed damage to trigger Revenge on an ally. Was that true in the last game?
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4897-5957-0786 Will be replaying this right after I get through Earthbound... edit: fixed LIVE AMMO COSPLAY fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:4897-5957-0768 It says your friend code isn't valid.
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Well, I've been playing for part of the weekend and would like to connect with fellow goons for friend boosts and the like. My Friend Code is 3093-8433-4418 (appears as VCR) In the interest of actually talking about the game, Ryo's soundtrack is decent so far, but REVO was a hell of an act to follow. I must say that I especially like the calm piece that plays in menus and during lunar reconstruction. e: due to being crunched for time right now, 3 additions were made: glassyalabolas, Mokl, Punch Drunk Drewsky. ModeWondershot fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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