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Early in Duma Key the one-armed protagonist pushes his thumbs, plural, into a doll's eyes.
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Can someone link the 11/22/63 tviv thread? I can't seem to find it.
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remigious posted:Can someone link the 11/22/63 tviv thread? I can't seem to find it. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3764462
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Thank you!
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Early in Duma Key the one-armed protagonist pushes his thumbs, plural, into a doll's eyes. polydactyly is a real disease don't erase
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Whelp, looks like it is actually happening this time as Stephen King has announced that the Idris Elba/Matthew McConaughey Dark Tower movie has begun filming.
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Apr 15, 2016 03:53
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Guess I have to finally read The Gunslinger.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Early in Duma Key the one-armed protagonist pushes his thumbs, plural, into a doll's eyes. A recurring Thing in Duma Key is how he occasionally grows a spooky ghost arm.
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muscles like this? posted:Whelp, looks like it is actually happening this time as Stephen King has announced that the Idris Elba/Matthew McConaughey Dark Tower movie has begun filming. Please don't be poo poo. McConaughey is going to make an amazing Walkin' Dude.
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OH MAN I just saw poster, Jealous Cow for the first time and the thread title is no longer a mystery to me. Content: is there anyone, even a small minority, who didn't think the Dark Tower got awful towards the end, or is this a universally accepted issue?
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Disgusting Coward posted:A recurring Thing in Duma Key is how he occasionally grows a spooky ghost arm. Nah, it wasn't the whole island phantom limb thing, it was at the therapist's office at the beginning of the book before he moved to florida.
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Advice posted:OH MAN I just saw poster, Jealous Cow for the first time and the thread title is no longer a mystery to me. I have a few minor issues with the last few books, but overall really liked them. Especially Book 7. Haven't read them in almost 10 years though.
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Advice posted:OH MAN I just saw poster, Jealous Cow for the first time and the thread title is no longer a mystery to me. i have no problems with the latter books
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Apr 17, 2016 02:51
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Many pieces, most of them insignificant, of the last three books were bad. Some pieces were actually quite good. And I'll defend the ending to my grave. It was the only way he could have ended it, he planned to do it that way for years if not decades, it was fully consistent with Roland's arc, and anyone who thought he was going to destroy/change/fix the Dark Tower is retarded and wasn't paying attention to any of it. Come at me bro.
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time loops are really cliched and the way he presented it also was lovely and annoying
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corn in the bible posted:time loops are really cliched and the way he presented it also was lovely and annoying I don't think too many people have problems with the actual ending, the problems lie with King warning readers not to continue, and before that the half rear end Crimson King showdown
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Medullah posted:I don't think too many people have problems with the actual ending, the problems lie with King warning readers not to continue, and before that the half rear end Crimson King showdown EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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mdemone posted:Many pieces, most of them insignificant, of the last three books were bad. Some pieces were actually quite good. You really hit the nail on the head imo, although I think that the bad pieces of the last two books were far more than insignificant. However I agree - the actual ending was brilliant, enough that I feel it was clearly planned from the start (at least relatively close to it) compared to some of the other contentious bits
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The only issues I had with the end of the series were the villains' deaths, which were by and large extremely anticlimactic. I don't have a problem with anything else.
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Jia posted:The only issues I had with the end of the series were the villains' deaths, which were by and large extremely anticlimactic. I don't have a problem with anything else. I think King loves the idea of an anticlimactic villain death - he certainly seems to subscribe to the Tolkienian ideal that "evil degrades and ultimately destroys itself" - but I think he often has difficulty reconciling that with making a legitimate payoff from buildup. Stephen King builds these villains up over the length of seven large books (well six large ones and The Gunslinger) only to give us a bit of a wet fart for their showdown. I think anticlimax after that kind of buildup can be done but I think it requires more care and precision than King generally shows. All of this can apply to The Stand, too.
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DoctorG0nzo posted:I think King loves the idea of an anticlimactic villain death - he certainly seems to subscribe to the Tolkienian ideal that "evil degrades and ultimately destroys itself" - but I think he often has difficulty reconciling that with making a legitimate payoff from buildup. Stephen King builds these villains up over the length of seven large books (well six large ones and The Gunslinger) only to give us a bit of a wet fart for their showdown. I think anticlimax after that kind of buildup can be done but I think it requires more care and precision than King generally shows. I don't know what you're talking about, that was a fantastic finale.  ....oh.
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Apr 17, 2016 15:15
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the end of the stand is a tour de force
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more like tour de farce I love King's short stories but he is incapable of writing a good ending
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I literally can't remember anything from song of Susannah. I must have blocked it out.
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Medullah posted:I don't think too many people have problems with the actual ending, the problems lie with King warning readers not to continue, and before that the half rear end Crimson King showdown The actual ending directly contradicts the precepts of the multiverse explained in multiple places throughout the books. The Crimson King thing was awful. The Flagg/Mordred thing was awful. The self-insertion was awful. Dandelo was awful. The "happy" ending prior to the actual ending was *beyond* awful, it was offensive. There were a lot of good things in those books, probably enough to make reading them still worthwhile, but the ending was awful.
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if stephen king dies then the universe will end because he is the GREATEST WRITER EVER
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corn in the bible posted:more like tour de farce I liked 11/22/63's ending. Salem's Lot had a good one. But yeah, most of his endings are dumb.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I liked 11/22/63's ending. Salem's Lot had a good one. But yeah, most of his endings are dumb. I like the end to Joyland as well as Cujo, The Shining, Pet Semetary, Misery, Carrie, Dead Zone and a few others. I don't even mind the ending of The Stand. I know the miniseries took the hand of God thing literally, but it seemed to me the intention of the book was that characters interpreted the event at the end differently.
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corn in the bible posted:if stephen king dies then the universe will end because he is the GREATEST WRITER EVER thats a gross misinterpretation
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I liked 11/22/63's ending. Salem's Lot had a good one. But yeah, most of his endings are dumb. Salem's Lot's ending was so loving badass, and really the only way King could've done it. Loved Pet Sematary's ending too, although I honestly think that as a whole is King's best work
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Running Man's ending sure was something.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Running Man's ending sure was something. An ending so good it became real life. That joke is in bad taste. But it is a good ending. I also thought Insomnia's ending was great, but Insomnia seems to be unpopular. I like it a lot.
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I finished Just After Sunset I like how some of the stories are ambiguous like in "A Very Tight Place" they never explain whether Curtis Johnson is actually a gay witch or not
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I liked 11/22/63's ending. Salem's Lot had a good one. But yeah, most of his endings are dumb. Supposedly he had a completely different ending originally for 11/22/63 but Joe suggested he redo it with what we got.
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Phanatic posted:The Crimson King thing was awful. The Flagg/Mordred thing was awful. The self-insertion was awful. Dandelo was awful. The "happy" ending prior to the actual ending was *beyond* awful, it was offensive. I mostly agree with you, although I liked at least the idea of Dandelo and the semi-connection with It. His jokes weren't very funny though, and I really hated Patrick Danville and the role he played for the rest of the book. Anyway even though I think most of us can agree on what you said, I still think there were enough good parts in the last few books to overlook at least some of it. I kind of like the ending, but I feel like it would have been much more effectively and less panned if he had just made it the ending, no "don't read this guys its really bad lol", no stupid happy alternate ending. I can see why he thought people wouldn't like it, but for such a big story it just felt a little insulting that that's what he went with. He should have just committed to the ending he thought is the best, there's no point trying to please everyone.
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muscles like this? posted:Supposedly he had a completely different ending originally for 11/22/63 but Joe suggested he redo it with what we got. The original ending is available to read: http://stephenking.com/other/112263/112263.html 
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ExtraNoise posted:The original ending is available to read: For some reason, this won't open for me. Anyone care to copy/paste it for me?
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