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XyrlocShammypants posted:Unless you have Fios and then SAP doesn't work That is honestly a blessing in this context.
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Bio-Hazard posted:I, too, know better than MLS executives how to best grow and market this league to those living in the US. don garber is a former NFL exec who runs MLS like a cargo cult inspired by major american sports leagues
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Apr 16, 2016 21:44
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For those who missed the Timbers v Earthquakes game, it was one of the more entertaining matches of the season. A lot of heart from a team that's pretty injury depleted and playing 3 games in 6 days.
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Welcome to GBS posted:For those who missed the Timbers v Earthquakes game, it was one of the more entertaining matches of the season. A lot of heart from a team that's pretty injury depleted and playing 3 games in 6 days. This is another thing I'm curious about. How hard is it (for pros) to play multiple games within a week? Baseball does about 6 games a week, basketball ~3 or so, football is just 1, soccer is what, ~2? Are those ratios purely based on difficulty or somewhat altered by limiting supply or something like that?
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Well baseball players have maybe 5 minutes of strenuous activity per game and basketball allows for substitutions and breaks. I imagine that if you had enough pitchers rotating in, you could play a baseball game every other day. Meanwhile the average basketball game is 2.5 hours for 48 minutes of gameplay and looking at a few recent games, the average minutes played per starter is about 25 minutes. So it takes an average basketball started 3 games to play as many minutes as an average starting soccer player in 1 game.
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Apr 17, 2016 06:39
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All of this is exactly right. Additionally, football only has 11 minutes of actual ball-in-motion action per game. Divide that in half since you have offense and defense and you're looking at less than six minutes of athletic activity per player.
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Comparing soccer to popular American sports and going "heh, look how much more our players run  " is a perennial argument among American soccer fans, and I find it completely inexplicable.All of these pro athletes, in any sport, are doing more physical activity in a week than most people do in years.
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Apr 17, 2016 15:29
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Hello Towel posted:Comparing soccer to popular American sports and going "heh, look how much more our players run So what is your point? We have actual data on travel times, activity in games, training times and other factors but you want to ignore that because of your personal opinion that because people are professional athletes that they should all be able to play the same number of games per week? So a cricket player should have the same stamina as a hockey player? There are reasons teams of different sports fight and fuss over scheduling and it's because you can gain an inherent advantage or suffer a disadvantage depending on rest, opponent strength, home/away and other factors.
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Apr 17, 2016 16:11
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XyrlocShammypants posted:So what is your point? We have actual data on travel times, activity in games, training times and other factors but you want to ignore that because of your personal opinion that because people are professional athletes that they should all be able to play the same number of games per week? So a cricket player should have the same stamina as a hockey player? no, his point is that soccer players running more than baseball players doesn't mean soccer is inherently a better sport than baseball, but that's an argument people make all the time, and it's unbearable
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be nice wicka posted:no, his point is that soccer players running more than baseball players doesn't mean soccer is inherently a better sport than baseball, but that's an argument people make all the time, and it's unbearable The original question was "how hard is it to play multiple games per week by sport." It's literally on this page
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Apr 17, 2016 16:27
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XyrlocShammypants posted:The original question was "how hard is it to play multiple games per week by sport." It's literally on this page yes, i know that. maybe he's trying to nip it in the bud? idk
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be nice wicka posted:yes, i know that. maybe he's trying to nip it in the bud? idk I'll nip you in the bud
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DC United are a bad team with a front office that would rather sell season ticket holding GA areas to AS Roma fan clubs so they don't get embarrassed by the continued protests erupting throughout North America If anyone calls you asking to watch a boring, awful team in a decaying stadium, ask them why they don't treat the brain damaged regulars a little better I'm brain damaged
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Apr 17, 2016 16:41
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I just cant go to RFK anymore...
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Both times I've been to RFK this year has been a big let down and that's even with my attitude of "this is our lovable shithole" DC and MLS is real bad and not good and I wish it would change and not be bad anymore. Thanks for reading friends.
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Apr 17, 2016 17:22
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TheNakedJimbo posted:All of this is exactly right. Additionally, football only has 11 minutes of actual ball-in-motion action per game. Divide that in half since you have offense and defense and you're looking at less than six minutes of athletic activity per player. No, that isn't how it works at all
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African AIDS cum posted:No, that isn't how it works at all True because players aren't on the field for every play of the game in American football. For example running backs and wide receiver rotate out for offensive plays so you have perhaps 4 minutes of activity per game.
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Apr 17, 2016 18:18
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Yes you can really measure the impact of a physical anaerobic sport by how many minutes some nebbish NYC blogger with a stopwatch calculated
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Apr 17, 2016 18:35
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Hey real talk I played competitive baseball into my early-20s, but the most physically spent I've ever been was after playing 4 rec league soccer games in one week. poo poo was rough. Also DC United are trash. I'm salty about that crap team still.
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Wrestlers must be the laziest athletes because they are only active for less than five minutes, clearly that makes it an extremely easy and not taxing sport. I firmly believe this. Unrelated but I also love the Timbers and turn of the century trains, thanks for reading.
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Is it dumb strawman day or what
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no, that was yesterday when dc put scarecrows in for their starting xi
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As someone who generally doesn't care about most East Coast teams, what happened, DC? Weren't you points clear in the supporters shield race last summer? Also arguing over which sports are most taxing is dumb af. Teams and Leagues want to get as many practices and games out of their athletes as they possibly can and because of that every single sport is taxing in it's own way. Soccer only happens once or twice a week because running around after a ball for 90 minutes is loving exhausting, and if you don't recognize that, I highly suggest you join a local rec team.
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Welcome to GBS posted:As someone who generally doesn't care about most East Coast teams, what happened, DC? Weren't you points clear in the supporters shield race last summer? Benny Olsen replaced young good players (and some old lovely players) with old lovely players. Plus the already old lovely players got one year older and shittier. Both Hamid and Kitchen are gone at the moment, and their absence cannot be understated. Let me break it down as best I can: 1) Bill Hamid, possibly the best young goalkeeper in America, is hurt. His replacements are utter crap. 2) Both center mids left. Perry Kitchen hosed off to Scotland. Davy Arnaud (sucks) retired. They have been replaced by an old Marcelo Sarvas and converted winger Nick Deleon. Halsti, Jeffrey, and rookie Buescher can't find many minutes yet. They aren't very good, but can't be worse. 3) Two new wingers who aren't exactly bad, but definitely not good (Nyarko and Neagle). Olsen also has no idea how to deploy them. 4) The back line is exactly the same, but both Boswell and Franklin are past it (but still serviceable). Birnbaum is excellent; Kemp is looking more and more like a pumpkin every day. 5) Strikers are woefully inconsistent. Both Rolfe and Espindola are either invisible or a one-man wrecking crew. Saborio, last week not withstanding, is also past it. 6) Our shiny new Argentinian talisman Luciano Acosta is deployed as a super sub. He looks immense. 7) Ben Olsen is a horrible offensive tactician. His entire strategy relies on telling players to work really hard and track back. It's always been bad, but he's had talents like De Rosario and Espindola to bail him out in the past. So far this year, they have not. He's also had solid-as-hell defense-minded players like Hamid and Kitchen. Yesterday they should have won though. Despite all that horrible poo poo, DC looked the better team for much of the game. Oh well. 
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Send Paddy Nyarko back to Chicago, tia
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I HATE THIS LEAGUE ADN EVERYONE IN IT see you next week
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Welcome to GBS posted:As someone who generally doesn't care about most East Coast teams, what happened, DC? Weren't you points clear in the supporters shield race last summer? Age and transfers mostly. Arnaud got his last concussion and retired, while Kitchen refused to sign because he caught euro fever and now he's a star at Hearts per early reviews. Halsti never materialized and came to camp out of shape. DeLeon is being played out of position as an attacking mid, and he's lost as a result. Espindola has aged, Rolfe has aged, and Acosta is loving brilliant but Olsen won't start him. At best we're a marginal playoff team. At worst, it won't be 2013, but we won't win poo poo.
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Hoover Dam posted:I HATE THIS LEAGUE ADN EVERYONE IN IT Same, actual OP.
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Hoover Dam posted:I HATE THIS LEAGUE ADN EVERYONE IN IT I have felt this way for a long time
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Hey guys! Did everyone else have a great weekend... Oh. Oh dang. E: seems like reddit thinks Baptista's Pk was totally not a handball. Lol
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Manager-manager fighting is my favorite fighting
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B.B. Rodriguez posted:E: seems like reddit thinks Baptista's Pk was totally not a handball. Lol It looked to have hit Farrell's hand before Baptista's. https://twitter.com/UCFMike21/status/721794174136238080
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Chicago's game against Montreal made it abundantly clear that this team isn't getting anywhere close to climbing out of the basement without David Accam. I had (low) hopes for Gilberto and Alvarez, but they've both been atrocious. Half the time they can't even get a corner anywhere close to a Fire player. Gilberto has wasted so many chances by having a terrible first touch and not looking for teammates.
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Hedges is out for a month, torn meniscus when he visited Portland. I pretty sure the Sounders are still #1 best player killing carpet team, but the Timbers are making a push to try and surpass them at yet another thing.
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SeaTard posted:Hedges is out for a month, torn meniscus when he visited Portland. Have you seen how teams have been playing us? The Timbers are not an aggressive team, but every single team has brought a physical game into our faces, likely because it has proven to be an extremely method of stopping us. The proof is in the pudding: half of our starting line up is out, and a fair few of them are from tackles that were completely reckless. If you want the Timbers in a clean game, you have to beat them at their own game, which I honestly think very few teams in MLS are capable of.
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Welcome to GBS posted:Have you seen how teams have been playing us? The Timbers are not an aggressive team, but every single team has brought a physical game into our faces, likely because it has proven to be an extremely method of stopping us. The proof is in the pudding: half of our starting line up is out, and a fair few of them are from tackles that were completely reckless. Please frame this post. Adi's elbows alone precludes your team from ever being considered 'clean', then you factor in Nat Borchers and Grabavoy, and it's not even close.
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B.B. Rodriguez posted:Please frame this post. Adi's elbows alone precludes your team from ever being considered 'clean', then you factor in Nat Borchers and Grabavoy, and it's not even close. Cleaner than whatever poo poo team you follow.
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B.B. Rodriguez posted:Please frame this post. Adi's elbows alone precludes your team from ever being considered 'clean', then you factor in Nat Borchers and Grabavoy, and it's not even close. And this leaving off Diego "2011 and 2014 Fouls Committed Champion" Chara to boot.
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whypick1 posted:And this leaving off Diego "2011 and 2014 Fouls Committed Champion" Chara to boot. I'm not saying we don't commit fouls. But I Diego has gotten a total of two red cards in his now 6 seasons in MLS. We play the team to the level they want to bring it, but blaming the Timbers for your injury woes is pathetic. Players don't leave Providence in a wheelchair.
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Welcome to GBS posted:Cleaner than whatever poo poo team you follow. Fantastic! You know what's funny? Your team has more fouls committed, yellow cards, and reds than mine. Hint: My team is the Galaxy.
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