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It is pretend, it's like when you were little and would dress up like an armyman or cop. On the day, the man who is going to pretend to be a half-cyborg is assisted with putting on props that are actually made of plastic, for budgetary and weight concerns. It is made to look very shiny so as to hopefully look like steel when he pretends in front of the camera. Crew members were paid to polish his shiny space samurai helmet to get all the fingerprint smudges off of it prior to rolling cameras. At times, they would miss a spot and it would be very noticeable in the shots the film would capture. This, along with the fact that in some shots (when the film originally showed in 1977) you could clearly see David Prowse's (this is the man who was pretending) eyes through the red plastic lenses on the helmet, was something George Lucas wanted to go back and digitally fix later, when the technology became available. MrMojok fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Apr 18, 2016 00:22
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Equeen posted:Isn't it also loosely based on samurai armor? Yeah, that's the other main design influence. It started off as more of a German war helmet and then evolved to also resemble a Samurai helmet.  Sir Kodiak posted:The helmet reads as plastic because it looks like plastic, which is consistent with the prop being made of plastic. Not that it matters, it's just weird to base an argument on it being metal when it obviously isn't. By the same token, the Death Star's interior must be constructed almost entirely out of wood. Also, Luke Skywalker isn't actually a farmboy from the planet Tatooine; he's an actor from Earth named Mark Hamill. Anyway, that's not even what my argument is based on. It's just further reinforcement for the obvious parallels that already exist between the two characters.
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Apr 18, 2016 00:30
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Cool. Look, in general, there's just not a strong visual similarity between Vader's helmet and Han Solo's face in the carbonyte. One is a contorted expression of frozen agony. One is a dead-eyed skull. I don't see how you get to one obviously being intrinsically tied to the other, which is what I was responding to. Now, if you take about how they look overall, you get this obvious difference. So Cnut expressed his own argument in details like "metal" and "death mask." So, part of my response was to point out that Vader's helmet isn't a death mask, and doesn't look like metal. But the primary argument is that they just don't look that similar, and ya'll are the ones who have spent a dozen posts trying to prove that they're metal, as if that was central to my response.
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Apr 18, 2016 00:32
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Gonz posted:Rey was left on Jakku by Dracula, because he felt she was unsafe around the Monster Squad. Rey isn't a secret Skywalker, she's a secret Belmont. Next movie she'll be fighting Space Vampires by summoning giant fire crosses while kickass music plays in the background.
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Apr 18, 2016 00:33
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um actually I think you'll find that c3po isnt really a robot 
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Apr 18, 2016 00:35
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when i was a kid c3po scared me more than darth vader
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Sir Kodiak posted:Cool. Look, in general, there's just not a strong visual similarity between Vader's helmet and Han Solo's face in the carbonyte. One is a contorted expression of frozen agony. One is a dead-eyed skull. I don't see how you get to one obviously being intrinsically tied to the other, which is what I was responding to. Have you heard of death masks, where they take a mould of your face when you die for posterity. Han solo is dead, for all intents and purposes. His frozen prison is his death mask. Anakin dies, for all intents and purposes, when he becomes Darth Vader. His metal armor is his death mask. I forget why connecting these two things was interesting in the first place though.
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Apr 18, 2016 01:09
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SHISHKABOB posted:Have you heard of death masks, where they take a mould of your face when you die for posterity. Han solo is dead, for all intents and purposes. His frozen prison is his death mask. Yeah, I have heard of death masks, which is why I know they don't look like a bare skull. Anakin dies and is reborn as Vader, an avatar of death, with a skull for a face. This is very different imagery than Han in the carbonyte.
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SHISHKABOB posted:I forget why connecting these two things was interesting in the first place though.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Cool. Look, in general, there's just not a strong visual similarity between Vader's helmet and Han Solo's face in the carbonyte. One is a contorted expression of frozen agony. One is a dead-eyed skull. I don't see how you get to one obviously being intrinsically tied to the other, which is what I was responding to. Both of them are frozen faces of torment and death. The visual similarity isn't the point except inasmuch as they both evoke those concepts. Further parallels can be found in how they're both raised up on rectangular slabs in the center of circular, steam-filled chambers in the wake of their horrific transformations:   Also, an emphasis is placed on both characters needing to learn to see again with their own eyes after their respective rebirths:  quote:Boushh's ugly helmet leans close to Han's face listening for the breath quote:HAN  quote:VADER (a whisper)
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Cnut the Great posted:Yeah, that's the other main design influence. It started off as more of a German war helmet and then evolved to also resemble a Samurai helmet. -Cover your ears kids- Vader's name is basically Dark Father, and his helmet is shaped like the head of a penis.
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Apr 18, 2016 02:26
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MonsieurChoc posted:Rey isn't a secret Skywalker, she's a secret Belmont. I'm looking forward to her confrontation with Snoke. "Die, monster! You don't belong in this galaxy!"
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Apr 18, 2016 02:28
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm looking forward to her confrontation with Snoke. It was not by my hand hand I am once again given flesh. It was the will of Star Wars Fans who wished to pay me tribute.
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Apr 18, 2016 02:29
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Well Manicured Man posted:No, you've got it backwards. They made the helmet super shiny so that Palpatine hopefully wouldn't notice they cut corners. Ooooh yeah.
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Apr 18, 2016 02:31
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1 A New Hope 2 The Empire Strikes Back 3 Phantom Menace 4 The Force Awakens 5 Battle for Endor 6 Return of the Jedi 7 Revenge of the Sith 8 Ewok Adventure 9 Attack of the Clones 10 Holiday Special 11 The Clone Wars My order. Largely influenced by nostalgia.
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Apr 18, 2016 02:40
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Empire A New Hope Force Awakens Return of the Jedi Revenge of the sith Phantom Menace Attack of the Clones.
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Apr 18, 2016 02:42
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Wtf was that bad about aotc? Like have you even watched it recently without going in with your mind closed? It's got a giant laser battle and yoda has a lightsaber fight.
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Apr 18, 2016 02:51
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SHISHKABOB posted:Wtf was that bad about aotc? Like have you even watched it recently without going in with your mind closed? It's got a giant laser battle and yoda has a lightsaber fight. Don't forget the arena/sex scene. AOTC is awesome.
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Apr 18, 2016 02:56
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I maintained that AoTC was the weakest of the prequels for a long time, but after getting the blu-rays and revisiting the full trilogy for the first time in several years, I've softened on it a lot. Obi-Wan's detective plotline is fun, Kamino is the coolest and most alien seeming set design of the prequels, and Dexter Jettser scene is actually kind of a breath of fresh air. He's the one dude in the Star Wars universe who has a real job, and seems to enjoy life.
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Apr 18, 2016 03:12
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The romance between Anakin and Padme is pretty terrible and it takes up large chunks of the movie.
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Apr 18, 2016 03:19
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The best part of Attacks of the Clone is comparing what Obi-Wan says to Anakin and what he does throughout the movie. He breaks all of his rules and ignores his own advice.
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Apr 18, 2016 03:22
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MonsieurChoc posted:The best part of Attacks of the Clone is comparing what Obi-Wan says to Anakin and what he does throughout the movie. If Obi-Wan was my mentor, I might be inclined to think the Jedi were full of poo poo.
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SHISHKABOB posted:Wtf was that bad about aotc? Like have you even watched it recently without going in with your mind closed? It's got a giant laser battle and yoda has a lightsaber fight. "Not my Anakin!"
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Apr 18, 2016 03:35
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Attack of the Clones is alternately the most flawed and most interesting of the prequels.
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 I think I've been accused of being no-fun in this thread, to that I say if you can't appreciate this freakshow, then it is I that feel bad for you.
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Apr 18, 2016 03:47
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Yoda light saber fight is the worst thing. It and looks icky and digital. Also Anakin the creepy sociopath.
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I don't find flaws interesting also tbh. EDIT: As a failure I'm interested in the flaws that fill AOTC. But not in a way that makes it "secretly good" gently caress that noise yo. CelticPredator fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Apr 18, 2016 04:00
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Most people like Attack of the Clones. As you can see, it is getting a lot of love in this thread. You are attempting to argue that it is "secretly bad".
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CelticPredator posted:I don't find flaws interesting also tbh. What are those flaws again? I forgot
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Clones to me is probably the most over-the-top fun of all the prequels. I think Sith is a better film in many respects, but despite the romance and a couple of little things Clones is just the most fun, if that makes any sense.
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Those handful of faux-handheld shots during the battle of Geonosis always bothered the poo poo out of me just because they're so jarring, as Star Wars never utilized anything like that before or since as far as I can remember. Edit: extremely lovely video, around 1:50 and 4:40. A similar effect is also used on Padme from above when she's stuck in a big pot on the assembly line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS020PHEOMQ&t=280s General Dog fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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UmOk posted:What are those flaws again? I forgot No you didn't. I mean, I have no ill will towards anyone that likes Clones. That's cool.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:The romance between Anakin and Padme is pretty terrible and it takes up large chunks of the movie. Yeah that's true, I can't say I enjoy those parts. Though it gave us that montage of tatooine which is cool.
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CelticPredator posted:It looks icky This is the entire depth of your analysis.
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cargohills posted:This is the entire depth of your analysis. wrong the entire depth of his analysis is CelticPredator posted:It looks digital.
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Apr 18, 2016 10:06
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Like it would've mattered what I said lol.
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If you'd maybe consider going beyond "lol CGI is icky!!" then maybe we'd treat you like you weren't a child.
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Fairly certain the Stormtrooper armor is called "plastoid". I say this with fond recollection of my Star Wars CCG game 
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cargohills posted:If you'd maybe consider going beyond "lol CGI is icky!!" then maybe we'd treat you like you weren't a child. Haha.
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