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EvilGenius posted:But these markets don't occur in isolation, right? Wouldn't the fact that a McDonald's cashier earns almost as much as a construction worker drive people away from a risky job into a relatively mindless and safe one, forcing builders wages up in turn? We don't take kindly to yer liberal book learnin' round here, comrade  e: ^^^^^^ I can't believe I sniped you of all people with that comment!
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RFC2324 posted:I thought the loan was 10 mil. He was given $1 million by his dad and described it as a "small loan". Assuming he got it in 1968 when he graduated college, that's about $6.8 million today. Edit: It's actually really interesting to look at Trump's history of "success" on Wikipedia. His very first venture was investing nearly half his net worth in a Broadway comedy that flopped badly, and it took him only 5 years from graduating college to get investigated by the Justice Department for conspiring to deny housing to racial minorities. From the beginning, he's been a general failure as an actual businessman and all of his "success" was built on the backs of a lot of other people. chitoryu12 has a new favorite as of 17:26 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Soviet Commubot posted:An underlying assumption behind that one is that employers already pay their employees the most they can afford in order to attract the best people for the job It blows my mind that someone could be this naive. I wonder if it's a coping mechanism -- I don't make a lot, but it's ok because it's the most my employer can afford to pay me.
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hyperhazard posted:It blows my mind that someone could be this naive. I wonder if it's a coping mechanism -- I don't make a lot, but it's ok because it's the most my employer can afford to pay me. I particularly like it when the C levels are sending constant emails about the record high profits this year.
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chitoryu12 posted:From the beginning, he's been a general failure as an actual businessman and all of his "success" was built on the backs of a lot of other people. So he fully and accurately represents capitalism?
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Wanamingo posted:We used to, but now it's just the deep south that does it. Charter schools are the only people doing it and getting away with it. If it wasn't for the voucher programs subsidizing sending poor red neck timmy to the school I would be fine with it because then its only rich idiots paying for a school to spank their kids. Its like having two nannies! Practical Demon posted:It's so weird that he gave the scenario and then clearly stated the reason why the company was doing it several times back to back, but never managed to connect the two. It just skips over immediately to 'misandry!' in his brain. That entire post and reply can be summed up with one gif 
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Will giving the fast foodies 15 an hour cause all the food to double in price? Cuz I doubt people are gonna go there then.
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oldpainless posted:Will giving the fast foodies 15 an hour cause all the food to double in price? Cuz I doubt people are gonna go there then. No. It would be more like 17 cents more for a Big Mac. A company that goes under because it has to pay its employees a livable wage probably wasn't a very successful company in the first place.
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oldpainless posted:Will giving the fast foodies 15 an hour cause all the food to double in price? Cuz I doubt people are gonna go there then. and we will all subsequently be more wealthy and attractive *licks queer socialist lips*
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I'm really sad that McDonalds doesn't make any money and can barely pay their employees 8 dollars an hour now.
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 YOU WENT TO CORNELL (this isn't a joke post either, he's the same dude who posted the "isn't it strange how all of Seal Team 6 have mysteriously died?" thing I posted a while back)
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TSM. Traditional Southern Medicine.
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Of course the other side of this is that these pay increases are added in gradually, so fast food restaurants have plenty of time to figure out how to pay for these newfound raises. Like replacing cashiers with touch screens and chat bots. A 15/hour minimum wage is our best hope for some Blade Runner style AI before 2019.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Of course the other side of this is that these pay increases are added in gradually, so fast food restaurants have plenty of time to figure out how to pay for these newfound raises. Like replacing cashiers with touch screens and chat bots. A 15/hour minimum wage is our best hope for some Blade Runner style AI before 2019. They're already installing those in local McDonalds, and I really doubt they've replaced a single worker. They will still need people to you know, cook the food and hand it to you. Not to mention that the majority of people who eat at McDonalds could never figure out how to use a touch interface meal selector, so they still need cashiers to take orders manually. Then there's the added bonus where instead of paying a kid 15 bucks an hour to take an order, your paying a technician 60 bucks an hour to drive around fixing those drat things when a kid inevitably jams a pickle in the credit card slot. (I'm totally for the touch ordering, I love it, I just doubt they are saving vast fortunes by having them) Fashionable Jorts has a new favorite as of 05:00 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Fashionable Jorts posted:They're already installing those in local McDonalds, and I really doubt they've replaced a single worker. They will still need people to you know, cook the food and hand it to you. Not to mention that the majority of people who eat at McDonalds could never figure out how to use a touch interface meal selector, so they still need cashiers to take orders manually. when springstein came out in favor of obamamosleM threw out everything of his, nothing more than a butwipe
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Fashionable Jorts posted:They're already installing those in local McDonalds, and I really doubt they've replaced a single worker. They will still need people to you know, cook the food and hand it to you. Not to mention that the majority of people who eat at McDonalds could never figure out how to use a touch interface meal selector, so they still need cashiers to take orders manually. I remember sometime in the last thread somebody posted a picture of one of those automatic order takers and a caption underneath that was basically "ha ha ha who's getting paid 15 dollars an hour now you stupid idiots?" a shame i can't find it now, it'd work so well
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 I really really hate these stupid loving "theories" about various kids shows, movies, and games. And this one is even dumber than most of the others I've seen and makes literally zero sense.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:They're already installing those in local McDonalds, and I really doubt they've replaced a single worker. They will still need people to you know, cook the food and hand it to you. Not to mention that the majority of people who eat at McDonalds could never figure out how to use a touch interface meal selector, so they still need cashiers to take orders manually.  They look like these things we have in Aus now. The "Create Your Taste" station. You can also order normal food through it as well; but they try to push you to do the custom burger thing. It's also very overpriced.
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Gridlocked posted:It's also very overpriced. It's not that much different in price to Grilld (which is admitedly much better) and is pretty comparable to what the US folks pay for a Big Mac meal or whatever.
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Garrand posted:
Seriously, the much simpler explanation is even mentioned in the stupid theory. He's a genie, he knows that poo poo because HE'S loving MAGICAL you dipshits.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Seriously, the much simpler explanation is even mentioned in the stupid theory. He's a genie, he knows that poo poo because HE'S loving MAGICAL you dipshits. Even less interesting: maybe those jokes were there for bored parents!
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maybe he is ded but also in a comma, fukt up if true That's 90% of fan theories and the other 10% is arguments about what fictional characters are gay. I do like that big James Bond fan theory about it being a code name even if the directors just shat all over it.
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EmmyOk posted:maybe he is ded but also in a comma, fukt up if true One of the Brosnan-era directors agreed with it, but his movie was the one with the invisible car, so maybe don't consider that a big one. That theory works because it's on the same level that the movies are working from, though, it wouldn't be a turn out of place in the movies themselves. Good fan theories work like that; bad fan theories are like that Aladdin one. There's better takes on that theory that are a little closer to reasonable given the universe of the movie, but ultimately they still face the same issue that they're pulling poo poo out of their rear end to justify a silly fourth-wall breaking character that breaks the rules of reality anyway.
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It also takes a hit because of Skyfall talking about his past as James Bond and updated theories jump through far too many hoops to make it work. It's a neat idea though. For content I searched Idris Elba playing James Bond on Facebook. 
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Fashionable Jorts posted:They're already installing those in local McDonalds, and I really doubt they've replaced a single worker. They will still need people to you know, cook the food and hand it to you. Not to mention that the majority of people who eat at McDonalds could never figure out how to use a touch interface meal selector, so they still need cashiers to take orders manually. They don't have to save a vast fortune. Just enough to minimize price increases and keep profit margins the same. If your $60/hour tech handles a zone with 10 restaurants and each restaurant can eliminate 4 employees per day through automation then all you're doing is waiting for the hardware to pay for itself.
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kirbysuperstar posted:It's not that much different in price to Grilld (which is admitedly much better) and is pretty comparable to what the US folks pay for a Big Mac meal or whatever. Grilld is significantly better and we are already paying loving boat loads anyway. I found out the price of an apple pie is now 2.70 gently caress when I was in uni a pie was 2.00 what happened?
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Krispy Kareem posted:They don't have to save a vast fortune. Just enough to minimize price increases and keep profit margins the same. If your $60/hour tech handles a zone with 10 restaurants and each restaurant can eliminate 4 employees per day through automation then all you're doing is waiting for the hardware to pay for itself. I was reading somewhere that staff levels have stayed the same at restaurants with computer ordering, but customer satisfaction is way up, since now they pay all those people to check up on customers and make sure everything is good, and fix it if it's not. Turns out that letting a computer do work a computer can frees your people to do customer service that requires a personal touch and makes the customers much happier.
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oldpainless posted:
http://www.snopes.com/nc-bathroom-bill-opposition-leader-a-sex-offender/ Just in case you ever run into anyone posting that image, just point them to this link that they surely won't read.
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volts5000 posted:http://www.snopes.com/nc-bathroom-bill-opposition-leader-a-sex-offender/ My dad fell for that terrible photoshop of the snopes founder 'getting arrested' and is convinced snopes is a font of left-wing propaganda because it doesn't agree with how batshit insane he can be. But you know, all right wing propaganda mills must be ~totally legit guys~.   -a guy who can't operate paypal or attach a file to an email without assistance  Has never applied for or attended college, didn't help pay my tuition or student loans, insisted that there was always free money somewhere.    
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How does no one ever bring up the fact that if Minimum Wage goes up, the people working in lovely minimum wage jobs will still have the same problems that make their jobs ultimately bad: low hours offered/bad hours and lack of benefits due to not being full-time employees. Yes, that $15 will help a lot of people in a lot of ways, but doing an apple-to-apples comparison with someone working in the trades is bullshit. I wouldn't theoretically quit my $14/hr 40hr/week job with benefits to go flip burgers 15 hours a week (which would be split up in 5x 3hr days in a wacky schedule all so you don't get a mandated break/lunch hour).
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How many dads have died due to their children nonchalantly scrolling through facebook
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Ratjaculation posted:How many dads have died due to their children nonchalantly scrolling through facebook Not enough
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The scholarship thing I'd always hear in high school is that there's so many scholarships out there, even for weird things. Just be clever when looking for them, and you can get a scholarship from the milk producers of America! What they don't tell you is that those scholarships are like $500 so you need to get 80 of those to cover in state tuition.
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'Silence is consent'
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Garrand posted:I really really hate these stupid loving "theories" about various kids shows, movies, and games. kirbysuperstar posted:It's not that much different in price to Grilld (which is admitedly much better) and is pretty comparable to what the US folks pay for a Big Mac meal or whatever. I feel like I'm missing some context here, because no part of that rant makes any sense to me. He's clearly against raising the minimum wage, but he seems to be arguing that it won't negatively affect businesses because self-checkouts mean they need less staff anyway.  OK, so you believe the Illuminati is real. Fair enough. But you also believe that Vladimir Putin isn't a member? Now you're crazy.
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Silly Newbie posted:I was reading somewhere that staff levels have stayed the same at restaurants with computer ordering, but customer satisfaction is way up, since now they pay all those people to check up on customers and make sure everything is good, and fix it if it's not. Turns out that letting a computer do work a computer can frees your people to do customer service that requires a personal touch and makes the customers much happier. I get that. Kind of like gas stations with pay-at-the-pump options. We still have the same number of clerks because businesses realized they could sell us Big Gulps and scratch-off tickets. I just don't know how well that'll translate in other service industries; especially in places where people shop based on low prices. I really want to believe that person thinks this is a real sign. Because there's no road in Australia to put a sign saying you're now entering Australia.
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robotsinmyhead posted:How does no one ever bring up the fact that if Minimum Wage goes up, the people working in lovely minimum wage jobs will still have the same problems that make their jobs ultimately bad: low hours offered/bad hours and lack of benefits due to not being full-time employees. Thank you for pointing this out, because it's entirely true. Corporate jobs will wreck being able to do even the smallest things because of the hosed up schedules, and gently caress you if you miss a shift. Not unrelated, but this thread is hella depressing. I think I need to lurk the cute thread for a while.
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