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Bass Bottles posted:I'm really confused about infusion. Is it ever a good idea for pure melee people like me? Raw/Fire/Deep infusions are good if you don't plan on heavily increasing any of your stats, or just for the early game in general when increasing your vigor and endurance are more important than getting higher str/dex than what your weapon requires. Heavy is good for strength builds, Sharp for dex builds, Refined if you increase both. Lightning is faith scaling, Blessed gives hp regen and bonus damage to skellies but has worse scaling and base damage than lightning, Crystal is int scaling, Simple is worse int scaling that gives fp regen, Dark and Chaos are int+faith scaling. Hollowed is luck scaling and also gives you bonus luck if you're hollowed from the dark signs. Bleed and Poison are poo poo. +1 through +10 are totally independent of your infusion and never go away, they increase all base and scaling damages. You can only cast weapon buff spells or use buff items like pine resins on normal, Raw, Heavy, Sharp, and Refined weapons, so in a lot of cases those can be better than Lighting/Crystal/Dark/Chaos infusions depending on what spells you use. Fajita Queen fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Can anyone tell me how to get to Siegward in Ithiryll Dungeons? I've searched everywhere I can think of in the surrounding area for the spot opposite his little window by the giant, to no success.
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Yeah the crystal gecko's older brothers seem very resistant to magic. I had to grab a club and beat it to death like some kind of savage on my mage character because even my strongest spells didn't break triple digits.
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Ok so i have put the giant and the abyss watchers onto their thrones, where on earth do i go next?
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Insurrectionist posted:Can anyone tell me how to get to Siegward in Ithiryll Dungeons? I've searched everywhere I can think of in the surrounding area for the spot opposite his little window by the giant, to no success. You go to the next area and backtrack through a window in the toxic swamp area iirc.
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Heithinn Grasida posted:I have a question, I've seen a number of people saying they like the sellsword twinblades, but I don't understand them at all. The dualwielding moves seem to not do any more damage than the single hits. Sometimes they do less. Does that ever get better? A lot of the weapon movesets have weird issues, like the partizan's focus skill takes a lot of stamina, takes a long time to complete and ends up dealing less damage than a single heavy attack even if all three hits connect. To answer my own question, in case anyone later wonders about this, the sellsword twinblades only really suck before they're upgraded. Once they have a few upgrades, the L1s deal more damage than the R1s at the same speed and cost less stamina. And I believe (can't quite tell) the third hit on the L1 deals extra damage and if you manage to chain five or more attacks together, which is not unreasonable in this game, it comes out every second attack after the third. I can't stop restarting characters, probably because I made the mistake of starting with a faith character, trying something else, going back to my faith character and then starting again. From reading what other people have written, I really dislike two things about this game. First, I hate the item distribution. Early game equipment is almost exactly the same as what you got in previous games, meaning you don't get to play with anything unique until later in the game. Focus skills are good enough on some weapons to make them feel special (uchigatana!), but mostly they seem to suck. That especially fucks over spell casters, since most of the interesting items are locked away at the end of a linear game. The second thing that I hate is that stat requirements for spellcasting are so high as to be unreachable in a normal game without huge sacrifices in both weapon selection and defense. These two flaws create the feeling that spellcasting other than pyromancy is only intended for new game plus, which is no fun at all for players who don't like new game plus in the first place. I will say that I haven't given up on my faith character, but I've come to two realizations. First, if I want to avoid grinding, every level is so precious that I have to start with a more efficient class than herald. Second, There are no miracles, there is only pyromancy. That scales with faith too and actually does something useful, so every faith character is going to be using pyromancy rather than miracles for the majority of the game until possibly the very end when they actually have the gear and stats to do what they want. It's a shame that I hate those certain aspects of the game so much, because the level design is great and I think the combat is the best in the series. Weapons still need some more balance, but the game keeps the essence of Dark Souls combat while encouraging the player to be proactive in engaging enemies rather than purely reactive. The difficulty curve is wonky and a fair number of enemies could benefit from some tuning, but the combat is everything I hoped it would be.
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The Shortest Path posted:You go to the next area and backtrack through a window in the toxic swamp area iirc. Huh, really? I went there thrice looking for a way but I only found the opening that lets you jump down to ratpit...guess it's back to search again. E: Ah, I found it. Thanks! Insurrectionist fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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Ashtarath posted:Ok so i have put the giant and the abyss watchers onto their thrones, where on earth do i go next? You need to finish exploring Irithyll. You've missed at least one, possibly two bosses there depending on how far you progressed before getting sidetracked into the dungeon.
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Operant posted:Is the Dancer's soul description implying that the Dancer is some sort of corrupted Gwynevere? I'm thinking it's Gertrude http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Crystal+Chime
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Insurrectionist posted:Huh, really? I went there thrice looking for a way but I only found the opening that lets you jump down to ratpit...guess it's back to search again. If it's where I'm thinking of (I screwed up the questline on my playthrough, so that cell was just empty) it's at the structure in the toxic swamp with the hand-hippos in it and a caster NPC fight on the roof. Right next to where you fight that caster, there's an open window across the stairs you come up from, so you just need a running jump to make it.
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Regy Rusty posted:You need to finish exploring Irithyll. You've missed at least one, possibly two bosses there depending on how far you progressed before getting sidetracked into the dungeon. huh, i thought i had given it a pretty drat good run through, will go back and continue exploring i guess
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Bass Bottles posted:I'm really confused about infusion. Is it ever a good idea for pure melee people like me? Raw is a bad idea if you want to play as a STR or DEX character, because it kills the bonus you get from those stats. If you want to use the Uchi, it'd be a good idea to infuse it with a Sharp Stone, which increases the bonus you get from DEX, and then level up your DEX.
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RBA Starblade posted:BTW, what rings affect pyromancy? Does the Sage Ring? I can't really tell. Yeah Sage's ring is incredible for pyromancy other good rings: Great Swamp Ring Witch's Ring Fire Clutch Ring not damage but recommended: Chloranthy ring for inc stamina sages + chloranthy + fire clutch + witch's is my pure pyromancy setup
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Bass Bottles posted:I'm really confused about infusion. Is it ever a good idea for pure melee people like me? It can be a good idea. I couldn't tell you about exact gem/weapon combinations since I haven't (and don't really plan to) look at most of it. Raw is a weird one because it removes all scaling and boosts base damage, so it's really good if you're not planning to push your attributes high or if it's on a weapon that just doesn't have very good scaling in comparison to it's base physical damage. Also, it doesn't matter when you infuse it, a +10 raw uchigatana will always have the same stats. The Uchigatana is a dex weapon, so if you're pushing your dex high, you could look at sharp, which increases dex scaling and reduces base damage. If you're levelling both strength and dex, you could look at refined, which balances the scaling on both but lowers base damage. I've put raw on my astora straight sword, which gives the +10 version 64 more damage than the uninfused counterpart, and has some pretty bad scaling (D/D str/dex at +10). I haven't invested too much into either stat so I think I'm better off with it raw. I certainly would be if I hadn't levelled dex a bunch to use another weapon at one point. Generally speaking, you can ignore infusion. It's good for squeezing out a little extra bit of damage, but a lot of the time the differences are pretty marginal, and is highly build dependent. Working out what's best will all get very spergy, I suspect.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I mean, bonfires and shortcuts are so prevalent that I'm struggling to think of any areas except maybe the Cathedral and Archives where getting invaded and killed would require more than 5 minutes of backtracking. Hell, in most areas you can sprint from one bonfire to the next in like literally 20 seconds. Shrug. Different experiences. I remember getting into DS1 late and my experience was pretty much 100% people invading everywhere pre-Anor Londo with Chaos Blades, ninja rings, +15 Pyromancy, and even several instances of malicious cheating like weapons that curse and egg your characters. You're clearly invested in the PVP so this kind of stuff might not be that big a deal for you, but for someone who was mostly interested in the single player experience, it was the most toxic, vile thing about the game because it just made the experience worse in every way. It completely blows and just ends up hurting the MP in the long run because those people stop playing. Maybe the current standard in this game will also hurt the MP, but I have a feeling that career invaders aren't going to stop anytime soon, especially considering DS2 practically required long-term invaders to learn to use cheat engine to get their orbs. Anyway, all the points you're bringing up about bonfires assume that you've reached them and you already know the level. Now that I've finished Road of Sacrifices and the swamp, yeah, I don't have any problem navigating quickly to a bloodstain, but that's because I've cleared 'em out and I know where everything is. Considering this is a new game and you can only be invaded if you haven't killed the boss yet, it's likely that most people getting invaded don't have a solid grasp of the environment yet, or even how to deal with normal enemies. I think there's a lot of things that could be done to improve the MP, and the game in general. Part of me wishes that there was just a straight up decent lobby for setting up PVP matches like any other game, that way people can get their fights all the time risk and hassle-free, but it's not a very Dark Souls solution.
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Any way to remove an infusion? At this point my fire infusion is starting to fall off because I could get more benefit from stats scaling and I'd rather not have to wait until NG+ for another copy of my weapon
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il serpente cosmico posted:Raw is a bad idea if you want to play as a STR or DEX character, because it kills the bonus you get from those stats. If you want to use the Uchi, it'd be a good idea to infuse it with a Sharp Stone, which increases the bonus you get from DEX, and then level up your DEX. Conversely, Raw is a great idea until your stats get high enough, because there's nothing stopping you from hopping around infusions. Robo Reagan posted:Any way to remove an infusion? At this point my fire infusion is starting to fall off because I could get more benefit from stats scaling and I'd rather not have to wait until NG+ for another copy of my weapon You can either infuse it with a different element, or uninfuse it with a shriving stone.
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Bass Bottles posted:I'm really confused about infusion. Is it ever a good idea for pure melee people like me? Increasing upgrades on weapons is always better. As for infusion, it entirely depends upon your stats. If you have only the basic stats to wield something, Raw, Fire or Deep is best. If you have lots of Strength, go crushing. If you have lots of Dex, go sharp. If you have lots of both, go Refined. If you have lots of Int, go Crystal. If you have lots of Faith, go Lightning. If you have lots of Int and Faith, go Chaos or Dark. If you look right now and infusing raw makes it do more damage than it does now even with the scaling, then raw is a good idea, HOWEVER think about what stats you might put in as you continue to level. Most weapons have pretty poor scaling at low level, but when they're +10 and you have 50 strength that scaling is HUGE and raw suddenly becomes a bad idea. Raw is good if you're splitting stats between lots of values. If your strength is currently like 18 and you're not going to put any more into it ever, then go raw. But if you're going to end up taking strength to 40+ by the end of the game, then definitely go refined or crushing instead. You can always change infusion using a stone and you keep the upgrade levels so you can expiriment and change your mind, but you end up wasting gems so think it through before you do. Leaving it vanilla could be fine if you don't know how you're going to invest your stats. But probably decide which of your damage stats to focus on, STR, DEX, INT or FTH (or some combination therein) and then start dumping points into that stat, and then infuse appropriately.
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should I upgrade my broadsword to +3 or level my new irithyll straight sword to +2? I dunno which will be better in the end? I want to go for a strength build I guess. or should I be looking in a different direction?
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Ashtarath posted:huh, i thought i had given it a pretty drat good run through, will go back and continue exploring i guess You're looking for another path from the shallow lake area. il serpente cosmico posted:Raw is a bad idea if you want to play as a STR or DEX character, because it kills the bonus you get from those stats. If you want to use the Uchi, it'd be a good idea to infuse it with a Sharp Stone, which increases the bonus you get from DEX, and then level up your DEX. Raw is great for any build in the very early game (like, pre-Abyss Watchers), before you've probably increased your scaling stats to outdo what Raw adds. Eventually you'll want to drop it, but in the early game it's a good boost.
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I think some people are complaining about a "fatigue" with this game that they didn't get with Bloodborne, which is perhaps the best possible reaction to this game one could have. The game is literally about a world that's worn down by constant use; the glory and wonder of the days of Lordran are faded memories, and now you're not just going through the motions, you're actually forcing the motions to go through the motions because...well, it's like King Allant says at the end of Demon's Souls. Nobody wants to go on.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:should I upgrade my broadsword to +3 or level my new irithyll straight sword to +2? I dunno which will be better in the end? I want to go for a strength build I guess. Pretty much every weapon is more or less viable, except broken straight sword but even then you could beat the game with it if you wanted to be really badass. Pick a weapon that looks cool to you and has a moveset you like, don't worry about the stats for picking a weapon. Once you've picked the weapon, then worry about stats for infusions. But pick weapons based on how cool they look and how fun the moveset is, not if you get +5 damage. Its not enough of a difference to be worth it, and if some weapon is dramatically underbalanced or overpowered it could get nerfed anyways. Broadsword and Irithyll straight sword are both fantastic weapons.
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Plus, Bloodborne was a lot of new gameplay mechanics, a new setting, and a new style. Dark Souls 3 is a bit more grotesque than before, but it's still Dark Souls, and the same world at that. The best thing DS3 does is that it manages to make DS2 better by virtue of finally establishing a context for it.
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Spanish Manlove posted:I'm thinking it's Gertrude http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Crystal+Chime Gertrude is almost assuredly someone else based on some other items mentioning her.
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I'm mostly a PvE guy, but always thought the idea of PvP in this would be cool unlike other RPGs where its just a matter of who has grinded out their character the most wins. So you get to throw down some actual skill against other players. And then you get back stabbed from 40 feet away somehow. The quoted post above just seems to reiterate that all invading is really about is inflicting grief
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Does the target shield have extra windup frames? :/
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Zaphod42 posted:Pretty much every weapon is more or less viable, except broken straight sword but even then you could beat the game with it if you wanted to be really badass. it uses twinkling titanite anyways, im a dummy
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I'm having trouble joining the Mound Makers. Every time I go up to the guy with the cage, he turns around. I tried sprinting to get there before he can turn and it doesn't work, and if I walk, I can't seem to catch up to him. What's the trick?
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Zaphod42 posted:If you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the worm. I so, so deeply want this to be an actual thing that you can do. Real-talk tho, what's a good way to deal with that thing?
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Zaphod42 posted:Pretty much every weapon is more or less viable, except broken straight sword but even then you could beat the game with it if you wanted to be really badass. This is extra true with the nice buff greatswords and the two weaker ultra greatswords (Astora and Zweihander) just got. I'm so excited to go home and enjoy the Astora Greatsword buffs 
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Lysandus posted:Giant seeds are the most fun thing in the game.
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Appoda posted:Shrug. Different experiences. I remember getting into DS1 late and my experience was pretty much 100% people invading everywhere pre-Anor Londo with Chaos Blades, ninja rings, +15 Pyromancy, and even several instances of malicious cheating like weapons that curse and egg your characters. You're clearly invested in the PVP so this kind of stuff might not be that big a deal for you, but for someone who was mostly interested in the single player experience, it was the most toxic, vile thing about the game because it just made the experience worse in every way. It completely blows and just ends up hurting the MP in the long run because those people stop playing. I think it really does come down to how much time you have in the game, or experience with the souls genre as a whole. I remember way back in my first DaS1 playthrough being terrified at losing my souls when I died, creeping back slowly towards my bloodstain and cowering behind a shield. The thought of ever popping a humanity and opening myself up to invasion seemed like absolute insanity. Later experience helped me realize that souls aren't that big a deal and whatever pocket change you're losing from random deaths is nothing compared to the pile that bosses give you, not to mention eating the boss souls if you don't need their weapons. And most importantly, the fact that skill and experience are vastly more of a game-changer than stats and levels. Playing 2, and even more so in 3 I just don't care. I'd explore down one path, maybe die, and just write off the souls and see what was down the other way. I hardly bothered picking up blood stains unless it was already on the way to wherever I was going. And I still finished the game as level 90-something. But I could see how a newer player to the series would have the same cautious, conservative approach that I started with, and for them someone coming in out of nowhere to wreck them would be a real rage-inducing moment that could drive them right out of the game forever.
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As a knight, does it make sense to add gems to my weapons since that will drop the attribute bonus or should I just not be using them on weapons and keep the attribute bonus in place?
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The Shortest Path posted:+1 through +10 are totally independent of your infusion and never go away, they increase all base and scaling damages. wat? So I can reinforce a weapon a bunch and then infuse it to avoid spending titanite scales or whatever on reinforcing the infused weapon?
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So boss soul weapons can't be upgraded right? Is there any reason to use the early bosses weapons? I made the greatsword out of the big tree guy's soul but it's just a heavier sword that does less damage than my +2 broadsword.
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HnK416 posted:I so, so deeply want this to be an actual thing that you can do. Run around it, position yourself so it's between you and the ballista and wait for it to die. There's even a nice little foxhole there so the bolts don't hit you.
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Finster Dexter posted:wat? So I can reinforce a weapon a bunch and then infuse it to avoid spending titanite scales or whatever on reinforcing the infused weapon? Titanite Scales and Twinkling Titanite are only used on transposed and unique weapons, they don't apply to anything on the standard 1-10 upgrade path.
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So some items mentioned a girl imprisoned in The Great Archives but I never found her in my playthrough. Is that a sidequest? Is it related to being able to wax my head?
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404notfound posted:I'm having trouble joining the Mound Makers. Did you already kill crotch-rot greatwood? He doesn't aggro otherwise and you can just run right up to him.
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Finster Dexter posted:Did you already kill crotch-rot greatwood? He doesn't aggro otherwise and you can just run right up to him. I didn't kill him, but I did activate him. I guess that's the point of no return then? Everything I've read said that it's dependent on whether or not you've killed him yet.
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