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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Booblord Zagats posted:

Not as bad as being dumb enough to play Wing Commander when TIE Fighter exists

Uh, oh, Chris... That freaky Sparrow guy wants to have hot X-Wing vs TIE Fighter sex with you, you 15 yar old gril... #5,840

PC Gamer was good until they stopped advertising porn in the back. That was like the best thing ever in middle school. That and TIE Fighter. #18,965

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dans
Nov 30, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Booblord Zagats posted:

Not as bad as being dumb enough to play Wing Commander when TIE Fighter exists

OK NOW I'M MAD

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

dans posted:

OK NOW I'M MAD

I'm sorry dans, you're easily my favorite FYAD but Larry Holland has always been superior to all other space sim makers in every possible way.

Also, does Ben realize he's working for a massive scam corp now or is he really that blind to it?

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

dans posted:

We were young and immature, think back to what GBS was ten years ago, it was a bunch of Olsen twins legality countdowns, ironic racism, and stupid poo poo like that. Not that it's OK, but that was what immature jackasses posted on the internet back then.
We were dumb, guys, dumb enough to see the Wing Commander movie in theaters.

Even before that the olsen countdown posters were called creeps; I definitely remember other goons telling people to quit ironic racism poo poo, on a regular basis, even back then. The poo poo was around, but IIRC people got mocked, ostracized, and/or banned for the kind of poo poo he was saying, if posted on the actual forums.

Again, it takes a closet racist to think implying that a black memorabilia event at a library would lead to pickpocketing is comedic. That closet racist may also be an edgelord. Still a racist.

I get your point, though, so I don't really see any point in belaboring or bickering. But it doesn't really add up to a legitimate defense, and his lack of 2016-appropriate response shows. Along with the history of hostility to women in a way that was incongruous to how he treated male backers -- which was also lovely.

He's known as having an iron fist that crushes dissent on the forums so that the whales of the project can have the insular community that will drive jpeg sales. This is not a strong foundation for a defense of his mid-20s jokester persona.

JainDoh fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Apr 18, 2016

a whole buncha crows
May 8, 2003

WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)

dans posted:

OK NOW I'M MAD

dans is this you??

cmdr_vinman posted:

LOL this is funny, the best part about this gif is that it is also virtual exercise for Ben. Maybe he should do this repetitive action in real-life to loose some weight.

At the end of the day, exercise is probaby a fantasy for Ben, Just like the jpgs that CIG sell.

Halman
Feb 10, 2007

What's the...Rush?

dans posted:

I was Vinman^,

Oh dang Vinman^, whats up?

Enchanted Hat
Aug 18, 2013

Defeated in Diplomacy under suspicious circumstances

dans posted:

OK NOW I'M MAD

Hey, as a disgruntled man or whatever, how the hell are you supposed to sing this anthem from http://hamtwoslices.net/lmg?

Baron von LOAF am I, of proud descent;
True to the Merry Guild I remain until death.
A Guild Member am I, free and fearless.
To the Baron I have always given honour.
You, my God and Lord, are my shield, on You I rely.
On You I will build; never leave me,
So that I may remain pious, Your servant at all moments,
Dispelling the tyranny that wounds my heart.

dans
Nov 30, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Nation posted:

dans is this you??

Haha no, sorry.

Halman posted:

Oh dang Vinman^, whats up?

Hey bud, long time no see, been playing a lot of Elite lately. :)

Enchanted Hat posted:

Hey, as a disgruntled man or whatever, how the hell are you supposed to sing this anthem from http://hamtwoslices.net/lmg?

Baron von LOAF am I, of proud descent;
True to the Merry Guild I remain until death.
A Guild Member am I, free and fearless.
To the Baron I have always given honour.
You, my God and Lord, are my shield, on You I rely.
On You I will build; never leave me,
So that I may remain pious, Your servant at all moments,
Dispelling the tyranny that wounds my heart.

No loving clue.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Whats the likelihood this human manatee gets fired because of this?

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

dans posted:

Haha no, sorry.


Hey bud, long time no see, been playing a lot of Elite lately. :)


No loving clue.


Its nice to see that Bens friends play games that actually exist and arent a pipe dream made of crap like Star Shitizen.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Booblord Zagats posted:

I'm sorry dans, you're easily my favorite FYAD but Larry Holland has always been superior to all other space sim makers in every possible way.

Also, does Ben realize he's working for a massive scam corp now or is he really that blind to it?

He's blind to pretty much everything, including light.

Blunderstorm
Mar 1, 2016

my grandfather just posts and all i got was this lousy joke, so what

Napoleon Bonaparty posted:

Calling the first high profile death. :rip: ben

We're mirroring this site, right?

heart attack or suicide though?

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx
Ben gets fired, possibly kills himself: I get to watch with morbid curiosity and concern troll about it, I win

Nothing happens despite Star Citizen obsessed goons spending combined days of man*-time writing to news outlets about Ben. I know that, despite hiding it, these goons are real mad that nobody cares about their quest and I laugh. I win

*no sexist

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

AugmentedVision posted:

Ben gets fired, possibly kills himself: I get to watch with morbid curiosity and concern troll about it, I win

Nothing happens despite Star Citizen obsessed goons spending combined days of man*-time writing to news outlets about Ben. I know that, despite hiding it, these goons are real mad that nobody cares about their quest and I laugh. I win

*no sexist

av/post combo

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
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AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx

Jon Do posted:

av/post combo

don't get mad yet, it's too early to see if ben is gonna be fired

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

AugmentedVision posted:

don't get mad yet, it's too early to see if ben is gonna be fired

No way he gets fired. He's gonna be the patsy when the SEC and Interpol start sniffing

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
sounds like something awful has a lot of winners posting.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

WebDog posted:

But you fail to make the distinction between the fact while it is immature ramblings, even when taken out of the context in which they were said, they are far from appropriate at any age.

In Ben's mind this is like when some celeb posts on twitter about some embarrassing style they wore back in the 80's. He fully expected people to laugh with him as if he didn't know better....at age 25. If this was just the spider facts page that would be the case.

Ben as a person is quite literally a mile wide and an inch deep when it comes to have any substance to his self worth.
Sure he got the short end of the stick as a kid but then no effort was really made to get him out and about and socialising with people and so he retreated into a safe space that he hasn't really been able to leave. I also get the feeling that he's been so wrapped up in cotton wool that he has quite the case of arrested development going on.

Him dropping out of college only just shows he has trouble doing things without some sort of adult assistance. And this still appears to be the case regarding him having to move states to work on SC.

He found the WC community as the one thing that accepted him and attached himself to it like some desperate leech and has spent the better part of twenty years obsessively immersing himself to the point where it's defined the only self worth he's ever known. As a result he becomes cocky and arrogant slowly pushing out other community leaders with such vitriol, even rejoicing in their deaths, till only he is left to run the ship of fools.

To make things worse this behaviour gets validated as he's eventually rewarded for his years of service as being the public face of his idol's latest creation.
You're talking about a person who at that point is verging on borderline shut-in and lives off a menial admin job at a school while writing up news posts that hallucinate potential sequels from nearly forgotten game franchises of the 90's. Now he gets paid to sit around in cushy digs with free food to live his dream - and the tragic irony is that's literally killing him.

On top of that he's given the controls to a new community from the ground up and sets up ridiculous rules about what can or can't be posted and mandatory polls dishing out the law at every moment. Plus he's an individual who has very little solid experience outside his comfort zone to deal with sensitive subjects in a proper way.

Of course he runs into the dilemma where you have backers who are just as broken and even more so as himself (see WulfKnight).
People so ostracised from social norms that they try to buy themselves some sort of community acceptance in the thousands of dollars expecting some sort of say in the creation of a dream video game or even buying people ships to try and gain their affections.

So to save the company coffers they get a light slap on the wrist for posting CP while valid concerns get banished to the wasteland as there's only so many hours in the day and free doughnuts to eat and sitting around watching all the Star Wars movies on company time.


Keep in mind this the public face of a company that has been publicly accused by former employees of racist and discriminatory hiring practices, done at a whim because the person hiring subjectively picks and chooses people based on broad assumptions of their personal grooming. Yup, someone wasn't hired because she was claimed to look like someone who doesn't shave down there.

And then you have the self described "job tourist" who claims he ran a baseball team in his teens yet until someone put the clippers to him looked like a hobo they'd let in. Said hobo leaked 34gb of game assets onto a public FTP, including a working build of the game and somehow kept his job.

TL;DR
90's video game obsessed manchild gets wrapped in cotton wool and refuses to grow up and take responsibility for his actions that are now damaging the reputation of the company he works for. Said company too afraid of community reprisals and potential loss of money to fire him.

:five: :bravo: :five: :bravo:

This was perfection. So I nicked it: http://www.dereksmart.org/forums/topic/star-citizen-extinction-level-event/#post-3097

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating
Why isn't this on the front page of Reddit yet

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


welcome to the space party my friends

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
can someone explain to me how the star citizen thread in games gets like a thousand posts a day, every day? the game's a trash fire, but it aint burning THAT hot

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Doctor Schnabel posted:

can someone explain to me how the star citizen thread in games gets like a thousand posts a day, every day? the game's a trash fire, but it aint burning THAT hot

They are fighting fire with fire except instead of fire it's aspergers.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

A Spider Covets posted:

welcome to the space party my friends

Wake me up when it becomes a Space Jam

http://trelane.hamtwoslices.net/index.php?query=muslim

quote:


Awwww, that sucks, 100 percent of the Muslim world is Muslim:( #11,055

Maybe Muslims believe that Malvo is God. #19,566

British Marines find cache of grenades stored at Umm Qasr school. Why were they searching a school, anyway? Also, buckets full of grenades are probably standard fare at muslim schools. #21,071

Space Muslims intend to crash Neptune into Jupiter. #21,499


Booblord Zagats fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Apr 18, 2016

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

Pelican Dunderhead posted:



thanku commando melkor

this actually makes me feel sorry for him, because he's dying

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
Ben is practically a JSOC analyst

quote:

Oooh, will terrorists have sex with his daughter? #4,886

You know what country has good terrorists? France... When I was living in Aix... these people bombed the city hall... but they payed all the homeless people outside to go away first. #4,890

Clinton stopped in here... 'Lesnick, Reid' he said 'You all have done a great job destroying the tyrany that was WCHS... now I want you to fight terrorists, as American secret agents'... #4,899

His casual disregard for human life just reminds me of the kind of person who'd run a militant terrorist group or a concentration camp... #4,914

Hehehehe... if an American tourist got killed in Germany we'd like bomb terrorists in Africa or something... #6,496

Wow, there are three Pokemon jets... It'd suck if a terrorist decided to catch 'em all. #12,518

Clinton seemed pretty drat quick to tell us that there are no terrorists. #17,453

Chloe can climb straight up walls. And bird cages. Lately she's been sleeping on top of the bird cage. She's like a cat terrorist. She hasn't been as good at killing the birds as I'd expect, though. #19,110

Wait, out of 150 people dead none of them were Americans? That's the worst terrorist attack ever. You'd have to be the unluckiest terrorist in the universe to demolish an entire city block and not kill any Americans. #19,219

According to the internet, if they go to a Red terrorist alert, they close schools. So that's good for all of us. Except Frosty. #20,112

SCENE: THE TERRORIST AIRCRAFT CARRIER, IKS ZIGZAGOON. TERRORIST 1: {Haha, foolish Americans, we shall destroy their WORLD TRADE CENTER!} TERRORIST 2: {And one segment of their foolish Pentagon!} TERRORIST 3: {And a field in Pennsylvania!} SADDAM HUSSEIN: {Surely this act of great evil will bring great honor to the evil terrorist empire!} BIN LADEN: {Yes, but I cannot help but wonder if we have awakened the sleeping giant.} #20,994

SCENE: SECRET GIANT CAVE, DEEP BELOW DETROIT. SLEEPING GIANT: Raaaarrr. Who dares disturb me? BEN AFFLECK: Terrorists! We've got to go fight them! Even though we're fighter pilots, and not especially good ones at that, lets fly bombers! #20,996

There can be a September 11th CCG. You have to tap terrorists to suicide themselves into the other persons mana. The game practically writes itself. #21,349

"Founder of the Klingon Language Institute (KLI), a non-profit organization that promotes the study of the ficticious language, Lawrence Schoen, was recently asked to present to U.S. military and civilian linguists. The government felt that terrorists might try to use Klingon--which possesses unique sound patterns and grammar--as a code for their communications."
<LOAF> Must... destroy... world. #21,697

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



City of Tampa posted:

this actually makes me feel sorry for him, because he's dying

I wish HIPPA wasn't a thing I want to see what his cholesterol and blood pressure are.

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

vyst posted:

I wish HIPPA wasn't a thing I want to see what his cholesterol and blood pressure are.

his blood pressure is Gravy/soda. His cholesterol levels are often described as "The thickest paste we have ever seen."

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
this is neither here nor there but there was a chris roberts looking dude on to catch a predator back in the day, and i came across it a few weeks ago and it made me chortle fatwise





look at that!! its the same dude, just ten years younger!!! haha

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Doctor Schnabel posted:

can someone explain to me how the star citizen thread in games gets like a thousand posts a day, every day? the game's a trash fire, but it aint burning THAT hot

It's mostly goons eating their own in between fuckups.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot

Hell Yeah posted:

op got probed for making a funny post and i honor him in his sticky thread

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
I certainly get that Chris Roberts has a passion for storytelling and especially seems compelled to work with cinema techniques and bring in Hollywood buddies, etc. Even the original Wing Commander game was largely framed as a movie, (Good ol' Bluehair) so why doesn't Roberts just make a loving movie and not some weird movie/game hybrid, as it has always felt that both halves got about half the attention they deserved in his games. Or was the Wing Commander movie actually his baby? If he had full creative control on that one, it would be best on the next go round to delegate to more experienced directors when needed and to take on advisors who he will listen to and are willing to tell him no. All I vaguely remember from the WC movie is some stupid necklace, a laughable rubbery kilrathi dude and that it was bad and boring.

The in-universe rag for the Tiger's Claw crew was the greatest thing when I was ten. I miss cool box inserts.

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx

Pvt.Scott posted:

I certainly get that Chris Roberts has a passion for storytelling and especially seems compelled to work with cinema techniques and bring in Hollywood buddies, etc. Even the original Wing Commander game was largely framed as a movie, (Good ol' Bluehair) so why doesn't Roberts just make a loving movie and not some weird movie/game hybrid, as it has always felt that both halves got about half the attention they deserved in his games. Or was the Wing Commander movie actually his baby? If he had full creative control on that one, it would be best on the next go round to delegate to more experienced directors when needed and to take on advisors who he will listen to and are willing to tell him no. All I vaguely remember from the WC movie is some stupid necklace, a laughable rubbery kilrathi dude and that it was bad and boring.

The in-universe rag for the Tiger's Claw crew was the greatest thing when I was ten. I miss cool box inserts.

lmfao

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Pvt.Scott posted:

I certainly get that Chris Roberts has a passion for storytelling and especially seems compelled to work with cinema techniques and bring in Hollywood buddies, etc. Even the original Wing Commander game was largely framed as a movie, (Good ol' Bluehair) so why doesn't Roberts just make a loving movie and not some weird movie/game hybrid, as it has always felt that both halves got about half the attention they deserved in his games. Or was the Wing Commander movie actually his baby? If he had full creative control on that one, it would be best on the next go round to delegate to more experienced directors when needed and to take on advisors who he will listen to and are willing to tell him no. All I vaguely remember from the WC movie is some stupid necklace, a laughable rubbery kilrathi dude and that it was bad and boring.

The in-universe rag for the Tiger's Claw crew was the greatest thing when I was ten. I miss cool box inserts.

Serious question?

You got it right, the WC movie was his baby. Roberts has always wanted to be a director, and when the WC film flopped he just kept on producing for a few more years, likely waiting for his next chance, until Ascendant Pictures (his production house) went under due to insolvency after he balked out on a deal with Kevin Costner, at which point he got blacklisted by hollywood.

Since he can't make real movies anymore, he's trying to realize his dream through Squadron 42.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

Pvt.Scott posted:

I certainly get that Chris Roberts has a passion for storytelling and especially seems compelled to work with cinema techniques and bring in Hollywood buddies, etc. Even the original Wing Commander game was largely framed as a movie, (Good ol' Bluehair) so why doesn't Roberts just make a loving movie

Because his fans don't want a movie. And Hollywood doesn't like Chris Roberts enough to give him any money.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Fair enough. I'd rather get up to speed on poo poo in a side thread like this than in whatever insane pit of despair the main thread is. Thanks guys.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

AugmentedVision posted:

Ben gets fired, possibly kills himself: I get to watch with morbid curiosity and concern troll about it, I win

Nothing happens despite Star Citizen obsessed goons spending combined days of man*-time writing to news outlets about Ben. I know that, despite hiding it, these goons are real mad that nobody cares about their quest and I laugh. I win

*no sexist

Lol

SurfaceDetail
Feb 17, 2016

by Cowcaster

Anderron Shi posted:

Why isn't this on the front page of Reddit yet

They deleted the thread about it in the SCsubreddit

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BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

Star Citizen keeps getting funnier and will continue to get funnier once the main players are in prison and/or bankrupted by legal action.

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